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Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

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First post2016-11-08 07:30 -0500
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  Me maps, why gps?  Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-08 07:30 -0500
    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 13:59 +0100
      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:41 -0500
    Re: Me maps, why gps?  Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-08 13:27 +0000
      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-08 16:16 +0100
        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-08 16:05 +0000
          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-08 22:40 +0100
      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-09 09:06 +0100
        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-09 15:33 +0000
          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-10 07:57 +0000
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-10 09:56 +0000
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-10 18:27 +0000
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-10 18:50 +0000
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 20:03 +0100
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:43 -0500
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 08:44 +0000
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:08 +0100
                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 13:40 +0000
                          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:08 +0100
                            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:34 +0000
                              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 22:54 +0100
                                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-16 09:03 +0000
                                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 10:49 +0100
                                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-16 10:51 +0000
                                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 14:01 -0800
                                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-17 11:21 +0000
                                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-17 12:47 +0100
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:35 -0500
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-12 22:34 +0100
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 19:45 -0500
                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-13 22:49 +0100
                          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-13 23:02 +0100
                          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 15:41 -0500
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 18:26 +0000
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-11 13:31 -0500
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-12 09:21 +0000
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-12 22:53 +0100
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 19:41 -0500
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-13 22:51 +0100
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:11 +0000
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-14 15:41 +0100
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 13:44 +0000
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:09 +0100
                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:22 +0000
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 06:48 +1100
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 15:06 +0100
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-11 03:53 +0400
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 19:57 -0500
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-11 06:00 +0400
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 00:51 -0500
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-13 04:10 +0400
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 19:40 -0500
    Re: Me maps, why gps?  Here maps, good? Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-08 14:48 +0000
      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:10 -0800
        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-08 11:21 -0500
          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-09 03:51 -0500
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-09 11:03 +0000
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:45 -0500
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:13 +0000
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-11 03:40 -0500
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:25 +0000
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 04:03 -0500
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-12 10:34 +0000
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 23:29 -0500
                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-13 09:57 +0000
                          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-14 02:19 -0500
                            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-14 10:45 +0000
        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-09 07:29 +0000
          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-09 11:52 +0100
          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:01 -0500
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-11 03:46 -0500
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-12 04:09 +0400
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 22:27 -0800
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 00:35 -0500
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-14 08:58 +0100
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-14 14:02 +0100
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-14 15:45 +0100
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 15:09 +0100
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-15 16:11 +0100
                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 22:44 +0100
                          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 08:32 +0000
                            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 13:56 -0800
                            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-17 04:36 -0500
                          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:52 -0500
                            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-21 01:34 -0500
                              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-24 03:38 -0500
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-15 00:34 -0500
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:54 -0500
        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-09 09:08 +0100
          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-09 11:09 +0100
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 11:20 +0100
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-09 11:58 +0100
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 13:18 +0100
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-09 11:05 +0000
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:07 -0500
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:08 -0500
            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-15 08:19 +0100
              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 08:35 +0100
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-15 09:43 +0100
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:52 +0100
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-15 10:02 +0100
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:14 +0100
                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:39 +0100
                          Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-16 12:59 +0100
                            Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 15:44 +0100
                              Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-20 19:43 +0100
                Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob <Bob@the.builder> - 2016-11-15 04:07 -0600
                  Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 11:36 +0100
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob <Bob@the.builder> - 2016-11-15 06:09 -0600
                      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 13:25 +0100
                        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob <Bob@the.builder> - 2016-11-15 07:48 -0600
                    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 15:11 -0500
        Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-09 18:18 +0000
    Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-09 09:47 +0100
      Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:12 -0500

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#35822 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromDavid Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid>
Date2016-11-11 10:25 +0000
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o0469n$ucb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35819
On 11/11/2016 08:40, tlvp wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 11:03:54 +0000, David Taylor wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a good trip!
>
> Yup. Hurtigruten :-) .
>
>> ... It was taking my GPS on a Coastal Voyage trip
>> and plotting the results afterwards that I found that the location of
>> (IIRC) Trondheim was incorrectly quoted on many Web sites, which had
>> obviously all copied from each other....
>
> You too, I gather :-) . Become a Polar Bear in Hammerfest? Cheers, -- tlvp

That's a great voyage!  Done several trips with them including a winter 
voyage to northern Norway with lots of snow and aurora, Faroe Islands, 
Iceland, UK, Svalbard, and Antarctica.  My wife did the polar bear thing 
ages ago, I just took photos.  MS Fram is my favourite ship.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#35846 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-11-12 04:03 -0500
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<1twbkwl90au4i.kfyibku0zyr2$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#35822
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:25:25 +0000, David Taylor wrote of ...:

> ... a winter 
> voyage to northern Norway with lots of snow and aurora, Faroe Islands, 
> Iceland, UK, Svalbard, and Antarctica.

Must have taken a quite while to get to Antarctica on that voyage if it was
still winter by the time you got there, eh :) ? Or did you mean the Arctic?

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#35849 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromDavid Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid>
Date2016-11-12 10:34 +0000
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o06r64$6jl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35846
On 12/11/2016 09:03, tlvp wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:25:25 +0000, David Taylor wrote of ...:
>
>> ... a winter
>> voyage to northern Norway with lots of snow and aurora, Faroe Islands,
>> Iceland, UK, Svalbard, and Antarctica.
>
> Must have taken a quite while to get to Antarctica on that voyage if it was
> still winter by the time you got there, eh :) ? Or did you mean the Arctic?
>
> Cheers, -- tlvp

Several separate trips.  Would go back to any of the destinations any time!

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#35867 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-11-12 23:29 -0500
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<cte2qjs2cm36$.160yyl50mgqd1$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#35849
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 10:34:11 +0000, David Taylor wrote:

> Several separate trips. 

Oops! Foot in my mouth! (Pffphluck -- there, got it out again.) Sorry I 
failed to realize ... .

> ... Would go back to any of the destinations any time!

That I can readily believe :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#35872 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromDavid Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid>
Date2016-11-13 09:57 +0000
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o09ddh$d33$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35867
On 13/11/2016 04:29, tlvp wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 10:34:11 +0000, David Taylor wrote:
>
>> Several separate trips.
>
> Oops! Foot in my mouth! (Pffphluck -- there, got it out again.) Sorry I
> failed to realize ... .
>
>> ... Would go back to any of the destinations any time!
>
> That I can readily believe :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

MS Fram works in the North in the northern summer, Iceland, Greenland, 
Svalbard etc. and in south South America and Antarctica in the northern 
winter.  You can travel on the ship for at least part of the journey as 
it transverses the equator between its summer and winter schedules.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#35900 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-11-14 02:19 -0500
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<1m9qldscibs5u.1lvab02r7a9aq$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#35872
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 09:57:36 +0000, David Taylor wrote:

> MS Fram works in the North in the northern summer, ...
> and in [the] south ... in the northern 
> winter.  You can travel ... at least part of the journey as 
> it transverses the equator between its summer and winter schedules.

I had no idea. That too could be quite a fascinating trip. Thanks. 

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#35908 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromDavid Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid>
Date2016-11-14 10:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o0c4id$dlt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35900
On 14/11/2016 07:19, tlvp wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 09:57:36 +0000, David Taylor wrote:
>
>> MS Fram works in the North in the northern summer, ...
>> and in [the] south ... in the northern
>> winter.  You can travel ... at least part of the journey as
>> it transverses the equator between its summer and winter schedules.
>
> I had no idea. That too could be quite a fascinating trip. Thanks.
>
> Cheers, -- tlvp

I hope you enjoy your trip, and share great photos.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#35732 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromBob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com>
Date2016-11-09 07:29 +0000
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<e8g1hvF2sdsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35723
in 35924 20161108 161056 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/08/2016 06:48 AM, Bert wrote:
>> In news:04h32cllggoa3cssu28hro7u5i6vokjstt@4ax.com micky
>> <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete
>>> themselves like google maps do.
>>
>> What? When and what has googlemaps threatened to delete?
>
>The [USELESS because they cover such a small area] downloaded maps don't
>threaten, they just disappear after 30 days.  Or maybe they do threaten,
>I've never kept one long enough to find out.

I got a pop-up message last week to say that my downloaded maps would be
deleted unless I took action to prevent it.
Makes sense, space isn't unlimited.

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#35742 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-11-09 11:52 +0100
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<pnbbfd-meg.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#35732
On 2016-11-09 08:29, Bob Martin wrote:

> I got a pop-up message last week to say that my downloaded maps would be
> deleted unless I took action to prevent it.
> Makes sense, space isn't unlimited.

It is explained in the help for the feature.

A zone will disapear unless updated. The idea is that the zone will have
changed too much in a month.

There is also a setting to automatically update downloaded maps, and
another setting to do it only via WiFi. What I have not clear is if it
will try to fetch data for the subzone actually displayed via data
network even if locally stored, if it has changed. If not, the feature
is not useful if you have a data plan.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#35799 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2016-11-10 15:01 -0500
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<mkj92c1pind1npri6qaod7jcp4q88sjvl0@4ax.com>
In reply to#35732
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 09 Nov 2016 07:29:03 GMT, Bob Martin
<bob.martin@excite.com> wrote:

>in 35924 20161108 161056 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On 11/08/2016 06:48 AM, Bert wrote:
>>> In news:04h32cllggoa3cssu28hro7u5i6vokjstt@4ax.com micky
>>> <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete
>>>> themselves like google maps do.
>>>
>>> What? When and what has googlemaps threatened to delete?

When I first got the individual maps, I think it was,  it said it was
good for nn days.  It didnt' even say they could be updated (and thus
retained longer). I think that showed up only after I got some map data.
>>
>>The [USELESS because they cover such a small area] downloaded maps don't
>>threaten, they just disappear after 30 days.  Or maybe they do threaten,
>>I've never kept one long enough to find out.

It's not that the map area is so small, but that the part of the map
that shows on a phone screen is so small**,  and if one backs out
farther, then many things are no longer shown.   As opposed to a paper
map where one can zoom in and out without losing any detail. 

Yesterday I was in a new car with built in maps and the screen was a lot
bigger than a phone, but it still didn't cover enough area to appreciate

**Moving left and right, up and down, helps some, but I don't know. 

However if i'm somewhere where a map is not available, it's better than
nothing. 



>I got a pop-up message last week to say that my downloaded maps would be
>deleted unless I took action to prevent it.
>Makes sense, space isn't unlimited.

But that isn't the reason.  They don't check or care how much empty
space you have.  

I don't know what the reason is.   That the map has changed in 30 days
is ridiculous, for 90% of the world, and if there are small changes,
I'll deal with them when I get there.  Maybe it's the advertising?
Maybe they promise advertisers that everyone will see their ad within 30
days?   Do you think that's it? 

I did "update" some maps, and I thought that meant it would just note
that I'd been around and extend the map for 30 more days, but instead it
dl'd a whole new map.  Near Berryville Virginia where nothing had
changed in years, decades for the most part, except a little new housing
that I don't care if it's on the map or not. 



What would work to see enough at one time is printing out the maps, so
one could have a bigger area, make notes etc.  But the small roads on
Google maps are almost invisible on paper, when printed from a PC.  And
for that matter, while viewing on a smart phone also.   Google has a
discussion board where several people have complained, but I don't know
if anyone from Google reads it.  Maybe it's just there for us to blow
off steam.      

I did complain a year or  two ago on the PC new Google maps that there
were so many boxes I couldn't see the map, and I got what sure seemed
like a personalized answer that they'd fixed, and indded they had, but
the same complaint forum isnt' there anymore like when the new google
maps were new.    I used, had to use I think, my gmail address to
complain, and I didn't read my gmail until a year after I complained!

BTW, the old google maps for the PC can be found under another name.
One big advantage is that you can turn off labels and that includes the
gray line that traces all the streets.   Some times the grey line makes
it impossible to see where the street

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#35820 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-11-11 03:46 -0500
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<dqimga0w0d1p$.1m6k2r1qpmnnj.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#35799
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:01:54 -0500, micky wrote:

> Google has a
> discussion board where several people have complained, but I don't know
> if anyone from Google reads it.  Maybe it's just there for us to blow
> off steam.

Hawaiians have for years complained about the Google Map voice
mispronouncing Hawaiian place names (Kihei coming out as "kigh-high"
instead of "kee-hey", U'unene coming out as "un-een" instead of
"oo-oo-neh-neh", etc.), to no avail. What to do? Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
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#35839 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromHappy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*->
Date2016-11-12 04:09 +0400
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<ocnc2cloi5ut639oa6bqq1vs64s7vds3du@4ax.com>
In reply to#35820
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 03:46:57 -0500, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:01:54 -0500, micky wrote:
>
>> Google has a
>> discussion board where several people have complained, but I don't know
>> if anyone from Google reads it.  Maybe it's just there for us to blow
>> off steam.
>
>Hawaiians have for years complained about the Google Map voice
>mispronouncing Hawaiian place names (Kihei coming out as "kigh-high"
>instead of "kee-hey", U'unene coming out as "un-een" instead of
>"oo-oo-neh-neh", etc.), to no avail. What to do? Cheers, -- tlvp

English, and American in special, are incredibly dumb languages with
respect to pronounciation. The same is true for French.
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#35845 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-11 22:27 -0800
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o06cmq$uk9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35839
On 11/11/2016 04:09 PM, Happy Oyster wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 03:46:57 -0500, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:01:54 -0500, micky wrote:
>>
>>> Google has a
>>> discussion board where several people have complained, but I don't know
>>> if anyone from Google reads it.  Maybe it's just there for us to blow
>>> off steam.
>>
>>Hawaiians have for years complained about the Google Map voice
>>mispronouncing Hawaiian place names (Kihei coming out as "kigh-high"
>>instead of "kee-hey", U'unene coming out as "un-een" instead of
>>"oo-oo-neh-neh", etc.), to no avail. What to do? Cheers, -- tlvp
>
> English, and American in special, are incredibly dumb languages with
> respect to pronounciation. The same is true for French.

Garmin doesn't recognize that some words are Spanish.  Or English, for 
that matter :-(

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   You need only three tools: WD-40, duct tape and a hammer. If it doesn't
   move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use duct tape.
   If you can't fix it with a hammer you've got an electrical problem.

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#35841 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2016-11-12 00:35 -0500
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<abad2cdfqdq08jj5khrm4br47ar1h8tais@4ax.com>
In reply to#35820
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 11 Nov 2016 03:46:57 -0500, tlvp
<mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:01:54 -0500, micky wrote:
>
>> Google has a
>> discussion board where several people have complained, but I don't know
>> if anyone from Google reads it.  Maybe it's just there for us to blow
>> off steam.
>
>Hawaiians have for years complained about the Google Map voice
>mispronouncing Hawaiian place names (Kihei coming out as "kigh-high"
>instead of "kee-hey", U'unene coming out as "un-een" instead of
>"oo-oo-neh-neh", etc.), to no avail. What to do? Cheers, -- tlvp

I haven't used google map voice, but when I play pronunciation from
other web sources, I can never hear it well enough to know how it's
pronounced.  I hear pretty well otherwise, but it's always blurred. 

I read that Barbara Streisand got someone who owns one of these things,
and is a friend of hers, to change the pronunciation of Streisand.  I
forget which one is right but one is sand and the other zand.  I think
it had been wrong for years before she finally asked him. 

So maybe the Hawaiians and I need to make friends with Barbara. 

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#35903 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromPiet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid>
Date2016-11-14 08:58 +0100
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o0bqr7$1ga5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35820
tlvp wrote:
> micky wrote:
>> Google has a discussion board where several people have
>> complained, but I don't know if anyone from Google reads
>> it.  Maybe it's just there for us to blow off steam.
> 
> Hawaiians have for years complained about the Google Map
> voice mispronouncing Hawaiian place names (Kihei coming
> out as "kigh-high" instead of "kee-hey", U'unene coming
> out as "un-een" instead of "oo-oo-neh-neh", etc.), to no
> avail. What to do?

You gotta live with it.
American product, American pronunciation, no matter how
ridiculous it sounds in the ears of native speakers. But
it's not a Google-specific problem. The built-in navigation
system of my Japanse-brand car "speaks" Dutch in way that
is both annoying and very amusing. Synthetic voices ain't
all that great. Navigation system makers could learn a lot
from TomTom.

-p

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#35910 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-11-14 14:02 +0100
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<j7pofd-5ma.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#35903
On 2016-11-14 08:58, Piet wrote:

> You gotta live with it.
> American product, American pronunciation, no matter how
> ridiculous it sounds in the ears of native speakers. But
> it's not a Google-specific problem. The built-in navigation
> system of my Japanse-brand car "speaks" Dutch in way that
> is both annoying and very amusing. Synthetic voices ain't
> all that great. Navigation system makers could learn a lot
> from TomTom.

Huh. I have a TomTom, and its pronunciation of some names is funny - and
Spanish is a language that has strict rules about how to pronounce a
written word.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#35913 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromPiet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid>
Date2016-11-14 15:45 +0100
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o0cilh$qcc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35910
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Piet wrote:
>> You gotta live with it.
>> American product, American pronunciation, no matter how
>> ridiculous it sounds in the ears of native speakers. But
>> it's not a Google-specific problem. The built-in navigation
>> system of my Japanse-brand car "speaks" Dutch in way that
>> is both annoying and very amusing. Synthetic voices ain't
>> all that great. Navigation system makers could learn a lot
>> from TomTom.
> 
> Huh. I have a TomTom, and its pronunciation of some names
> is funny - and Spanish is a language that has strict rules
> about how to pronounce a written word.

TomTom had voices spoken by human beings and synthesized ones.
If you use the 'natural' ones, well... some people do have an
odd pronunciation...

-p

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#35950 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-11-15 15:09 +0100
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<kihrfd-iil.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#35913
On 2016-11-14 15:45, Piet wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Piet wrote:
>>> You gotta live with it.
>>> American product, American pronunciation, no matter how
>>> ridiculous it sounds in the ears of native speakers. But
>>> it's not a Google-specific problem. The built-in navigation
>>> system of my Japanse-brand car "speaks" Dutch in way that
>>> is both annoying and very amusing. Synthetic voices ain't
>>> all that great. Navigation system makers could learn a lot
>>> from TomTom.
>>
>> Huh. I have a TomTom, and its pronunciation of some names
>> is funny - and Spanish is a language that has strict rules
>> about how to pronounce a written word.
> 
> TomTom had voices spoken by human beings and synthesized ones.
> If you use the 'natural' ones, well... some people do have an
> odd pronunciation...

No, I mean things like replacing a wovel with another. If you know
Spanish, it pronounces "murcia" as "murcie", for example; and the "c"
almost as "s", which is incorrect in most of Spain.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#35951 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

FromPiet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid>
Date2016-11-15 16:11 +0100
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<o0f8ip$uf8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35950
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Piet wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Huh. I have a TomTom, and its pronunciation of some names
>>> is funny - and Spanish is a language that has strict rules
>>> about how to pronounce a written word.
>>
>> TomTom had voices spoken by human beings and synthesized ones.
>> If you use the 'natural' ones, well... some people do have an
>> odd pronunciation...
> 
> No, I mean things like replacing a wovel with another.

If I had a device using wovels, I'd scrap it. :-)

> If you know Spanish, it pronounces "murcia" as "murcie",
> for example; and the "c" almost as "s", which is incorrect
> in most of Spain.

You mean the TomTom "Spanish" voice pronounces it that way?
Had to believe it's a native speaker then; I guess it must
be an English speaker. What happens looks exactly like what
you see in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murcia as pronunciation.
And yeah, the proper pronunciation of the 'c' here is pretty
hard for not-native speakers.

-p

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#35958 — Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-11-15 22:44 +0100
SubjectRe: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good?
Message-ID<h6csfd-akh.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#35951
On 2016-11-15 16:11, Piet wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Piet wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> Huh. I have a TomTom, and its pronunciation of some names
>>>> is funny - and Spanish is a language that has strict rules
>>>> about how to pronounce a written word.
>>>
>>> TomTom had voices spoken by human beings and synthesized ones.
>>> If you use the 'natural' ones, well... some people do have an
>>> odd pronunciation...
>>
>> No, I mean things like replacing a wovel with another.
> 
> If I had a device using wovels, I'd scrap it. :-)

Oops.
vowels.

> 
>> If you know Spanish, it pronounces "murcia" as "murcie",
>> for example; and the "c" almost as "s", which is incorrect
>> in most of Spain.
> 
> You mean the TomTom "Spanish" voice pronounces it that way?
> Had to believe it's a native speaker then; I guess it must
> be an English speaker. What happens looks exactly like what
> you see in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murcia as pronunciation.
> And yeah, the proper pronunciation of the 'c' here is pretty
> hard for not-native speakers.
> 
> -p

City names use the generated voice, I think, not the recorded voice,
because there are too many names. The default voices are pretty good,
but there are errors.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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