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  Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 05:04 +0000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 15:57 +1000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:15 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:50 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier  <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-01 01:38 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:33 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 02:38 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:49 -0400
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 04:15 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:17 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:55 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:56 +0100
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 02:23 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:41 +1100
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-11-12 05:16 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:49 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:03 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:30 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:02 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:51 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:58 +0100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 17:00 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:09 +0100
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Hankat" <hyes342@nospam.com> - 2016-11-04 17:19 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:46 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 00:15 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 23:57 -0400
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 12:54 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:20 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-05 07:10 +0100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 17:54 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-11-05 16:49 -0500
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 06:17 +0100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:35 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 09:42 +0100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 21:01 +1100
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 11:57 +0100
                              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 07:23 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-07 08:00 +0000
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-07 21:48 +0100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:05 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 14:26 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:53 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:54 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:33 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:51 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:11 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:32 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:12 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:19 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:54 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:11 +1100
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 19:23 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:29 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-11 15:26 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 09:13 +1200
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-07 22:21 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:52 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:34 +1000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-07 08:48 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-07 10:46 -0400
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:50 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:32 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:02 +1000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 17:50 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:46 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:23 -0400
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 14:55 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:49 +1000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:24 +1000
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 19:50 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:57 +1000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 06:52 +1000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:43 +1000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:22 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? The Mighty Ant <mightyant@antheap.com> - 2016-09-12 06:29 +0700
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-10 21:12 -0400
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:48 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:22 -0400
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000

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#35593

"Algeria Horan" <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote in message 
news:nvadr1$1t91$5@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 22:49:31 -0400, nospam wrote:
>
>>> You Apple guys fall for meaningless trademarks every single time!
>>> AirDrop is just ad hoc services, which were on Android first.
>>
>> it's much more than 'just ad hoc services' and your repeated trademark
>> comments is not only grasping at straws but it displays sheer ignorance
>> about what's involved.

<reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit and lie your
way out of your predicament flushed where it belongs>
 

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#35607

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 03:05:51 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 22:49:31 -0400, nospam wrote:
>>
>>>> You Apple guys fall for meaningless trademarks every single time!
>>>> AirDrop is just ad hoc services, which were on Android first.
>>>
>>> it's much more than 'just ad hoc services' and your repeated trademark
>>> comments is not only grasping at straws but it displays sheer ignorance
>>> about what's involved.
> 
> <reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit and lie your
> way out of your predicament flushed where it belongs>

More trolls from Rod Speed?

You're now cutting and pasting your meaningless rant to nospam.

Do you stop at nothing just to troll?

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#35608

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit and lie your
way out of your predicament flushed where it belongs>
 

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#35594

In article <nvadr1$1t91$5@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan
<algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote:

> 
> >> You Apple guys fall for meaningless trademarks every single time!
> >> AirDrop is just ad hoc services, which were on Android first.
> > 
> > it's much more than 'just ad hoc services' and your repeated trademark
> > comments is not only grasping at straws but it displays sheer ignorance
> > about what's involved.
> 
> Number one of the three musketeers has spoken... 
> 
> We've already long ago debunked your AirDrop claims, and nobody came to your
> rescue.

you didn't debunk a thing and it ain't me who needs rescuing. the only
person who needs rescuing is you, which nobody bothered to do.

> Just the fact you *call* it AirDrop means you don't have a clue what you're
> talking about.

i call it airdrop because that's what it's called, and unlike you, i
understand exactly how it works internally.

> The word AirDrop is an utterly meaningless word, just like "Techron" is
> utterly meaningless, or "Vibram" is utterly meaningless. It's just a
> trademark. Apple bought it. They can use the word for anything they want.

just like 'bluetooth' is a meaningless trademark. 

or 'android', for that matter, a word that's been around for *150*
*years*:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(robot)> 
  The term "android" appears in US patents as early as 1863 in
  reference to miniature human-like toy automatons. The term android
  was used in a more modern sense by the French author Auguste Villiers
  de l'Isle-Adam in his work Tomorrow's Eve (1886).

> They can use AirDrop to put on sneakers for heaven's sake.

no they definitely can't.

more of your ignorance.

> And yet, you persist in calling basic ad hoc services by a meaningless word.

airdrop is not 'basic ad hoc services'.

even more of your ignorance.

> Fact is, you can't find *anything* that iOS can do that Android doesn't
> already do (all by its itty bitty self), while I have listed numerous times
> plenty that Android does that iOS can't hope to do.

fact is, i can and have, as have others.

any time anyone does, you resort to babbling about trademarks and other
completely irrelevant stuff instead of learning something new.

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#35840

nospam@nospam.invalid, would you identify yourself?  I for one would 
like you to tell all of us, or at least me how the  AirDrop software 
works and what it does.  	'm nt an Apple user, so I would like to 
know and if I can attach a real name to your explanation, it will 
carry some credibility.

Thank you,
John Carter


nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:011120161225405027%nospam@nospam.invalid: 

> In article <nvadr1$1t91$5@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan
> <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> >> You Apple guys fall for meaningless trademarks every single
>> >> time! AirDrop is just ad hoc services, which were on Android
>> >> first. 
>> > 
>> > it's much more than 'just ad hoc services' and your repeated
>> > trademark comments is not only grasping at straws but it
>> > displays sheer ignorance about what's involved. 
>> 
>> Number one of the three musketeers has spoken... 
>> 
>> We've already long ago debunked your AirDrop claims, and nobody
>> came to your rescue. 
> 
> you didn't debunk a thing and it ain't me who needs rescuing. the
> only person who needs rescuing is you, which nobody bothered to
> do. 
> 
>> Just the fact you *call* it AirDrop means you don't have a clue
>> what you're talking about. 
> 
> i call it airdrop because that's what it's called, and unlike you,
> i understand exactly how it works internally.
> 
>> The word AirDrop is an utterly meaningless word, just like
>> "Techron" is utterly meaningless, or "Vibram" is utterly
>> meaningless. It's just a trademark. Apple bought it. They can use
>> the word for anything they want. 
> 
> just like 'bluetooth' is a meaningless trademark. 
> 
> or 'android', for that matter, a word that's been around for *150*
> *years*:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(robot)> 
>   The term "android" appears in US patents as early as 1863 in
>   reference to miniature human-like toy automatons. The term
>   android was used in a more modern sense by the French author
>   Auguste Villiers de l'Isle-Adam in his work Tomorrow's Eve
>   (1886). 
> 
>> They can use AirDrop to put on sneakers for heaven's sake.
> 
> no they definitely can't.
> 
> more of your ignorance.
> 
>> And yet, you persist in calling basic ad hoc services by a
>> meaningless word. 
> 
> airdrop is not 'basic ad hoc services'.
> 
> even more of your ignorance.
> 
>> Fact is, you can't find *anything* that iOS can do that Android
>> doesn't already do (all by its itty bitty self), while I have
>> listed numerous times plenty that Android does that iOS can't
>> hope to do. 
> 
> fact is, i can and have, as have others.
> 
> any time anyone does, you resort to babbling about trademarks and
> other completely irrelevant stuff instead of learning something
> new. 
> 

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#35579

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 
> nospam wrote
>> Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 
 
>>> We've long ago debunked the airdrop myth.
 
>> it's not a myth. it's something android cannot do. period.
 
> You Apple guys fall for meaningless trademarks every single time!

Nothing to do with any trademark, what is being discussed 
is FUNCTIONALITY which is usefully succinctly described by 
using the trademark as you have been told repeatedly, you 
silly little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll. 

> AirDrop is just ad hoc services, 

Wrong, as always. Airdrop is a PARTICULAR type of 
ad hoc service which android can not do, you silly 
little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll. 

> which were on Android first.

More of your bare faced lies given that iOS 
showed up BEFORE android did, you silly little 
pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll. 

<reams of your trademark mindless repetition of your
lie after lie after lie, all flushed where they belong>
 

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#35585

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:49:03 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> Wrong, as always. Airdrop is a PARTICULAR type of 
> ad hoc service which android can not do, you silly 
> little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

We've already disproven that AirDrop is anything more than basic copycat ad
hoc services, which *all* platforms have, and with AirDrop, only work within
the walled garden, so, it's obviously and clearly substandard to the rest of
the ad hoc services.

Anyway, since Apple has no claim to ad hoc services, let's see what else is
on your list of what you perceived that iOS can do that Android doesn't
already do (all by its itty bitty self).

HINT: iOS can't do *anything* that isn't already on Android, while Android
does many things that you can't hope to do on iOS, e.g., torrenting.

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#35590

"Algeria Horan" <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote in message 
news:nvadqv$1t91$4@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:49:03 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Wrong, as always. Airdrop is a PARTICULAR type of
>> ad hoc service which android can not do, you silly
>> little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

<reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit and lie your
way out of your predicament flushed where it belongs>
 

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#35578

Horace Algier <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> wrote
> Horace Algier wrote

>> Is there a *single* bit of functionality on iOS that isn't *already* on 
>> Android?

>> Just one?

> The topic came up today that Rod Speed feels that
> Apple Pay is functionality that is on iOS alone,

The level of SECURITY you get with it certainly is.

With ApplePay you have to UNLOCK the phone
to do an *Pay transaction. With Android you don't,
so anyone who finds or steals your phone can do
*Pay transactions with it and loot your account.

> the response to which I wrote in another thread just now:

> Rod Speed wrote
>> Horace Algier <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> wrote

>>> There's nothing iOS can do that Android doesn't already do.

>> airdrop,
>> continuity,
>> handoff,
>> sandboxing,
>> applepay

> We've long ago debunked the airdrop myth.

Lie after lie after lies, as always, you silly little
pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

No myth, airdrop is MUCH more convenient to use because all you
have to do to share something is tap the share icon, see the list of
your contacts which it can currently see and tap the icon which
shows their photo etc to send whatever it is to their idevices.

And in big meeting room or conference etc you can see all
the airdrop capable devices that have said they will accept
airdrop from anyone too.

Nothing like that convenience with android.

> Let's take the Apple Pay (aka Google Virtual
> Wallet, PayPass, etc.) suggestion, shall we?

No thanks, the appropriate comparison is with AndroidPay.

> And let's entirely forget that Apple Pay *requires*
> network computers on the other end,

More of your bare faced pig ignorant lies, and even
if it did, that is completely irrelevant to the FACT that
the security of ApplePay is MUCH better because it
requires the idevice to be unlocked before the *Pay
transaction can be done. AndroidPay doesn't, you silly
little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> which was not in the spirit of the question

Another bare faced lie, you silly little pathological
liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> since the question was what can the
> iOS device do all by its itty bitty self.

You never said anything like that in your original
pathetic excuse for a troll, you silly little pathological
liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> Not only does Apple Pay require other computers,

Wrong, as always.

> but it also requires the specific cloud, iCloud,

It uses no cloud whatever when doing ApplePay
transactions, you silly little pathological liar/
pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> which, as we said many times, is not in the spirit of the question
> of what the mobile device can do all by its itty bitty self.

There was  no such thing in your original pathetic
excuse for a troll, you silly little pathological
liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> Nonetheless, let's look at this Apply Pay
> (Google Wallet, PayPass, etc.), shall we.

No thanks, the appropriate comparison is with AndroidPay.

> What's the functionality outside the trademark bullshit?
> It's the ability to pay for stuff using the phone.

The point is that with ApplePay you have to UNLOCK
the phone to do an *Pay transaction. With Android
you don't, so anyone who finds or steals your phone
can do *Pay transactions with it and loot your account.

> You can also say it's the ability to pay for stuff using the phone
> without the retailer having "direct access" to your credit card details.

Yes, but AndroidPay does that too.

> Nice. But it's not iOS all by itself,

Corse it is with a particular ApplePay transaction, you silly
little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> and, even if we forget that it requires both the iCloud specifically,

It requires nothing of the sort, you silly little
pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> and network computers,

It requires nothing of the sort, you silly little
pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> it's the same functionality as Google Wallet or PayPass anyway.

Just another bare faced pig ignorant lie, you silly little
pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

PayPass and PayWave do NOT virtualise the card
so the retailer has your card details, you silly little
pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> All of which came well before Apple Pay,

The virtual card didn't, you silly little pathological
liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> which is merely a copy of an existing system.

Wrong, as always, you silly little pathological
liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> Nothing wrong with a copy, mind you, but it's nothing unique.

Wrong, as always, you silly little pathological
liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> Even worse, Apple reputedly gets a cut of the transaction,

Irrelevant to whether it is something androids can't do, you
silly little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> so, Apply Pay is actually worse than Google Wallet in some ways;

Irrelevant to what was being discussed, what iOS can do that android
can't do, you silly little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying 
troll.

> but the main point is that it's nothing that wasn't already there,

Wrong, as always, you silly little pathological
liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

> and besides, it's not something that iOS has all by itself anyway.

That wasn't a requirement in your original pathetic excuse for a troll,
you silly little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.
 

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#35584

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:30:07 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> With ApplePay you have to UNLOCK the phone
> to do an *Pay transaction. With Android you don't,
> so anyone who finds or steals your phone can do
> *Pay transactions with it and loot your account.

When you compare Apple Pay with Google Virtual Wallet, you find pros and
cons to each, but the FUNCTIONALITY is the same.

You knew that from the beginning.

You purposefully pick just one feature out of very many, where the only
thing you're saying is that in a feature to feature comparison, the
application has pros and cons to each side.

Yet you ignore tons of cons about Apple Pay (such as it only works with some
Apple mobile devices and that Apple likely increases the cost to you) just
as you ignored tons of Pros about Google Virtual Wallet.

The point is that there is zero FUNCTIONALITY on iOS that isn't already on
Android.

Period.

When we compare the FUNCTIONALITY, we're going to find pros and cons, but
the overall functionality is the main point.

Fact is, iOS has ZERO functionality that isn't already on Android. 
None.

Both ad hoc services and virtual payments not only existed on Android well
before they ever worked on iOS, but when you do a faithful comparison of the
pros and cons, you find they're about the same overall.

Since the AirDrop/ApplePay myths have been soundly debunked, we should move
on to your other "claims" of the vaunted ability of iOS to do something
(anything) that Android doesn't already do.

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#35589

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 
> Rod Speed wrote

>> With ApplePay you have to UNLOCK the phone
>> to do an *Pay transaction. With Android you don't,
>> so anyone who finds or steals your phone can do
>> *Pay transactions with it and loot your account.
 
> When you compare Apple Pay with Google Virtual Wallet, you 
> find pros and cons to each, but the FUNCTIONALITY is the same.

Wrong with that SECURITY alone. 

<reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit and lie your 
way out of your predicament flushed where it belongs>
 
 

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#35595

In article <nvadqt$1t91$3@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan
<algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote:

> 
> When you compare Apple Pay with Google Virtual Wallet, you find pros and
> cons to each, but the FUNCTIONALITY is the same.

completely wrong. 

you continue to show just how ignorant you are.

the only thing that's the same is holding up a phone to a pos terminal.

beyond that, the entire payment processing with applepay versus google
wallet is *completely* different, along with security implications,
user benefits, card eligibility, fraud prevention, merchant acceptance
and more.

btw, google wallet is all but dead, having been replaced by android
pay, which is basically a copy of apple pay (although not as secure and
with additional limitations), and like applepay, works entirely
differently than google wallet.

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#35610

On Tue, 01 Nov 2016 12:25:42 -0400, nospam wrote:

> btw, google wallet is all but dead, having been replaced by android
> pay, which is basically a copy of apple pay (although not as secure and
> with additional limitations),

Heh heh ... I love how you prove my point.

If Android Pay is a "copy" of Apple Pay, then the "Functionality" is there,
by your own admission.

All functionality has pros/cons to compare, but the functionality is there.

*It's a fact that there is no functionality on iOS that isn't on Android.*

It's another fact that there is plenty of functionality on Android devices
that iOS can't hope to have, including file system access & redirects,
installing modern launchers, downloading torrents, automatic call recording,
arranging & naming desktop icons, saving APKs easily for backup to SD cards,
bluetooth file transfer even outside the walled garden when no Internet or
WiFI is available, waterproofness, inductive charging, automatic answering
of calls, etc. 

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#35612

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit and lie your
way out of your predicament flushed where it belongs>
 

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#35615

Am 04.11.2016 um 04:51 schrieb Rod Speed:
> Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 
> 
> <reams of your desperate attempt to bullshit and lie your
> way out of your predicament flushed where it belongs>
>  
> 
Do you have something meaningful to say in these groups?

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#35616

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

> Do you have something meaningful to say in these groups?

You clearly don’t, child. 

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#35617

Am 04.11.2016 um 07:00 schrieb Rod Speed:
> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
> 
>> Do you have something meaningful to say in these groups?
> 
> You clearly don’t, child. 
> 
You wanted it that way: Welcome in my killfile!

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#35618

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Do you have something meaningful to say in these groups?

>> You clearly don’t, child.

> You wanted it that way: Welcome in my killfile!

No one actually gives a flying red fuck what you do or do not read, child. 

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#35609

You guys are all fooled by Apple M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G, who turn commodities,
into specialty items, in your *mind* only!

Besides only working inside the walled garden, Airdrop ad hoc services are
nothing special, and Apple Pay isn't either, where Android not only has
everything that Apple has by way of functionality, but CHOICES too!

For example, here's a comparison of the FUNCTIONALITY between Apple,
Android, and Samsung Pay payment systems (which are all the same
functionality):
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-pay-vs-apple-pay-vs-samsung-pay-688041/

airdrop, == Android has plenty of ad hoc services such as ShareIt, FileDrop,
AirDroid, Google Cast, Google Bump, Google Copresence, Beam, etc. 

applepay == Android has plenty of encrypted payment systems such as Android
Pay, Google Wallet, PayPass, Samsung Pay, Barclaycard bPay, EE Cash on Tap,
V.me, etc.

Besides... "NFC is inherently more secure than data transfers over Bluetooth
and Wi-Fi, even if encrypted, because of the short distance for making a
connection, which is very hard to intercept, several analysts and banks
adopting NFC have said. The NFC specification requires two NFC devices to be
less than 4 inches apart to transmit data."

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#35611

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your pathetic excuse for trolling 
and bare faced lies flushed where it belongs>
 

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