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  Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:02 +0000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 06:06 +0000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:19 +1000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:03 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 07:53 -0700
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 11:01 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:35 -0400
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:45 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:51 -0400
                  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:09 +0000
                    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
                      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 22:39 +0000
                        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 18:44 -0400
                        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:01 +1000
                    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:31 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:22 +1000
                  Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 23:32 +0000
                    Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:16 +1000
                    Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 22:22 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:10 +1000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 11:59 -0700
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 06:34 +1000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-21 09:27 -0700
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:32 +0000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:12 +1000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:02 +1000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 03:25 -0400
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 07:47 +0000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 21:50 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-21 11:09 -0400
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:35 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:04 +0000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:27 +1000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 03:59 +1000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:11 +0000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:33 +1000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-09-21 16:49 -0500
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 08:29 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 23:32 +0000
                  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:04 +1000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 21:58 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 19:51 -0700
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:51 +0000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-22 18:54 -0400
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-22 16:19 -0700
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-23 00:20 -0400
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 16:08 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Graham Murray <newspost@gmurray.org.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:04 +0100
                  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:38 +0000
                    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 15:55 +1000
                      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:39 +0000
                        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 07:39 +1000
                          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 18:10 -0400
                            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:00 +1000
                          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 22:10 +0000
                            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:04 +1000
                      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:41 +0000
                  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:38 +0000
                    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 18:40 -0400
                      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:47 +0000
                        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 18:55 -0400
                          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:45 +0000
                            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 00:06 +0000
                              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 00:20 +0000
                                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 01:09 +0000
                                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 16:01 +1000
                                  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
                                    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 07:35 +1000
                                    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-30 12:22 +0100
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:04 -0400
                  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:38 +0000

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#34746

Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> youtube appears to vary the ads it gives you based on
>> something unspecified, so it isnt the url that matters.

> Ah, that's why I don't put you in my killfile.
> You (and nospam) actually are intelligent.
> So, you *have* value.

You never do.

> You're just too emotional to provide it, most of the time.
> When you're not emotional, you're actually reasonable.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed pig ignorant psychotic fantasys.

> I agree with you that youtube seems to do *something* that nobody
> yet seems to completely understand to *deliver* those ads.

Bet its perfectly possible to work out what it does,
I just haven't bothered coz I couldn’t care less.

> Witness the technical thread on that topic alone:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/asxS4y6JA1Y
>
>  From: Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
>  Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.mobile.android
>  Subject: What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms
>           have ads and some don't?
>  Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 00:59:13 -0000 (UTC)
>
>  What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms have ads
>  and some don't?
>
>  I have multiple platforms and multiple ways of playing youtube
>  videos, but, I've noticed some platforms and some apps nearly always
>  play an initial skippable ad, while others *never* play ads.
>
>  What is it that determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms
>  have ads and some don't?

I couldn’t care less. 

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#34748

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 07:39:49 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> ... fantasys ...

That's a Fanta-guzzling SysAdmin, dontcha know :-) ? Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#34755

"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message 
news:pxbbwhgsbfsz.3tzvjmfr31xs$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 07:39:49 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> ... fantasys ...
>
> That's a Fanta-guzzling SysAdmin, dontcha know :-) ?

Down, frog. 

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#34749

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 07:39:49 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

>> You're just too emotional to provide it, most of the time.
>> When you're not emotional, you're actually reasonable.
> 
> Just another of your pathetic little drug
> crazed pig ignorant psychotic fantasys.

Heh heh ... thanks for proving my point.

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#34756

"Horace Algiers" <horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote in message 
news:ns6tlf$hj6$2@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 07:39:49 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>> You're just too emotional to provide it, most of the time.
>>> When you're not emotional, you're actually reasonable.
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug
>> crazed pig ignorant psychotic fantasys.
>
> Heh heh ... thanks for proving my point.

Not a shred of emotion involved at all, you
pathetic excuse for a pathological lying troll. 

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#34737

On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:55:43 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> youtube appears to vary the ads it gives you based on
> something unspecified, so it isnt the url that matters.

Ah, that's why I don't put you in my killfile.
You (and nospam) actually are intelligent.
So, you *have* value.

You're just too emotional to provide it, most of the time.
When you're not emotional, you're actually reasonable.

I agree with you that youtube seems to do *something* that nobody yet seems 
to completely understand to *deliver* those ads. 

Witness the technical thread on that topic alone:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/asxS4y6JA1Y

  From: Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
  Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.mobile.android
  Subject: What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms 
           have ads and some don't?
  Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 00:59:13 -0000 (UTC)

  What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms have ads 
  and some don't?

  I have multiple platforms and multiple ways of playing youtube 
  videos, but, I've noticed some platforms and some apps nearly always 
  play an initial skippable ad, while others *never* play ads.
 
  What is it that determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms
  have ads and some don't?

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#34673

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 18:04:44 +0100, Graham Murray wrote:

> My experience is otherwise. Using the Android YouTube app (version
> 11.35.60) I often get adverts before videos.

I don't get *any* advertisements ever with Android.
I also use new pipe, which is a free youtube red replacement.
Neither the youtube app nor newpipe ever get ads.
Dunno why. 
THey just don't.

But "my" versions are all old as I never update unless I'm forced to.
And even then, if I can use the older software, that's what I use.

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#34674

In article <ns4ats$s1q$4@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algiers
<horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:

> 
> > My experience is otherwise. Using the Android YouTube app (version
> > 11.35.60) I often get adverts before videos.
> 
> I don't get *any* advertisements ever with Android.

bullshit.

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#34675

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 18:40:14 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> I don't get *any* advertisements ever with Android.
> 
> bullshit.

While you *fear* facts, I'm not afraid of facts.

Maybe it's what I watch, which is mostly documentaries, but, I sometimes
use the iPads when the kids aren't playing with them (as they're great for
playing games).

You have zero credibility in anything you say, simply becuase you have been
wrong so many times and you never back up what you say, that nobody can
believe you.

Me? 

Give me a URL that you say shows ads for you.

I'll test it on the iPads (each of which is on a different iOS version) and
I'll test it on three different apps on Android.

If you can't even do something as simple as that, then you're just being
coyishly unhelpful, yet again - and wrong (as you almost always are).

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#34676

In article <ns4bdp$sm2$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algiers
<horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:

> 
> >> I don't get *any* advertisements ever with Android.
> > 
> > bullshit.
> 
> While you *fear* facts, I'm not afraid of facts.

too bad you don't have any.

if there are supposedly no ads on android, then why are there so many
ad *blockers* available on the play store?? what do you think they're
blocking?

ads are so critical to the google and android business model that
google has even removed certain ad blockers from the play store. so
much for 'freedom'.

<http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/3/10905672/google-samsung-adblock-fast-a
ndroid-ad-blocker-removal>
  Google removes Samsung's first Android ad blocker from the Play Store
  For violating developer guidelines

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#34681

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 18:55:51 -0400, nospam wrote:

> too bad you don't have any.
> 
> if there are supposedly no ads on android, then why are there so many
> ad *blockers* available on the play store?? what do you think they're
> blocking?
> 
> ads are so critical to the google and android business model that
> google has even removed certain ad blockers from the play store. so
> much for 'freedom'.
> 
> <http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/3/10905672/google-samsung-adblock-fast-a
> ndroid-ad-blocker-removal>
>   Google removes Samsung's first Android ad blocker from the Play Store
>   For violating developer guidelines

I'll repeat that you fear facts.
Simply give me a youtube video that you say plays one or more ads.

I'll test that youtube video on:
a. My iPad with the youtube app recently updated
b. My iPad with the older youtube app still working
c. My Android phone with whatever version of Youtube is in my archived APK
d. My Android phone with NewPipe of whatever version I'm using

And, maybe:
e. Safari on both iPads
f. Firefox on Android

No sense me choosing the video since I never see the ads, so, you have to
choose a video where *you* see an ad.

It's an extremely simple request.
Why you haven't honored that trivially simple request is *fear*.

You *fear* facts.

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#34684

On 2016-09-23, Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 18:55:51 -0400, nospam wrote:
>
>> too bad you don't have any.
>> 
>> if there are supposedly no ads on android, then why are there so many
>> ad *blockers* available on the play store?? what do you think they're
>> blocking?
>> 
>> ads are so critical to the google and android business model that
>> google has even removed certain ad blockers from the play store. so
>> much for 'freedom'.
>> 
>> <http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/3/10905672/google-samsung-adblock-fast-a
>> ndroid-ad-blocker-removal>
>>   Google removes Samsung's first Android ad blocker from the Play Store
>>   For violating developer guidelines
>
> I'll repeat

Because that's the only thing you can do: repeat yourself. You're
pathetic.
 
> You *fear* facts.

Pure projection. You're a useless loser troll.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#34686

On 24 Sep 2016 00:06:48 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Pure projection. You're a useless loser troll.

Says the guy known around here as the Jolly Troll.

Why don't *you* supply a Youtube video URL that *you* says shows ads.

I'll test it.

Of course, you won't supply a simple URL because you are simply trolling,
as always.

a. You never add value
b. You accuse everyone else of being a troll
c. Yet, your posts are never on topic and never add value

That's why you are known as the Jolly Troll.

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#34689

On 2016-09-24, Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2016 00:06:48 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Pure projection. You're a useless loser troll.
>
> Says the guy known around here as the Jolly Troll.

Where "around here" means "in my desperate delusional world". Troll on,
loser. That's all you have ever been in these news groups. You're a
pathetic old man with control freak tendencies and blind hatred for
things you refuse to understand. You lie and weasel during otherwise
civil and fair debate for some delusional gain - all while the rest of
the world sees right through your silly childish games. You'll die
lonelier than most with only yourself to blame unless you change your
ways.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#34710

Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote
> Jolly Roger wrote

>> Pure projection. You're a useless loser troll.

> Says the guy known around here as the Jolly Troll.

Only by the pathological lying troll, the one you see when you look in the 
mirror.
 

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#34734

On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:01:21 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Only by the pathological lying troll, the one you see when you look in the 
> mirror.

You really do need new material.
What you call "lying trolls" are simply facts you don't like.

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#34745

"Horace Algiers" <horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote in message 
news:ns69pa$1g9u$7@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:01:21 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Only by the pathological lying troll, the one you see when you look in 
>> the
>> mirror.
>
> You really do need new material.

You don’t qualify...

> What you call "lying trolls" are simply facts you don't like.

We all swooned at that new material of yours... 

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#34952

On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 17:31:39 +0100, Horace Algiers  
<horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:01:21 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Only by the pathological lying troll, the one you see when you look in  
>> the
>> mirror.
>
> You really do need new material.
> What you call "lying trolls" are simply facts you don't like.

You are both xposting provocateurs.
FU set

-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#34665

In article <ns3k17$1n3c$3@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algiers
<horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:

> 
> And, on Android, there are *never* any advertisements on youtube videos

wrong

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#34671

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:04:59 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> And, on Android, there are *never* any advertisements on youtube videos
> 
> wrong

See the above request for a URL that someone says gives *them* ads, and I
will check it on the updated iPad (which I can't get back to a known good
OS which is a huge limitation of iOS).

I will then check it on the iPad with the older more stable operating
system. And on two or three programs on Android.

If you don't provide a URL, then you're just being unhelpfully coy, as
usual, since it would only prove that you know you're wrong (as usual).

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