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Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps?

Started byHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
First post2016-09-21 05:47 +0000
Last post2016-09-23 10:17 +0100
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  Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:47 +0000
    Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-22 21:13 +0200
      Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
        Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-23 00:28 -0400
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 13:56 +0000
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 10:19 -0400
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 16:21 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:04 -0400
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-23 15:54 -0500
                  Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:22 +0000
                    Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 19:25 -0400
                      Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:37 +0000
                  Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:37 +0000
                    Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-23 20:20 -0700
                    Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:26 -0400
                      Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:12 -0400
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-24 06:57 +0200
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-26 19:53 +0200
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:09 -0400
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 18:17 -0400
        Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-23 08:24 +0200
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-23 10:17 +0100

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#34703

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-09-24 01:09 -0400
Message-ID<176kgmkp97zpi$.by4yqu8zguaj$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#34655
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:56:51 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algiers wrote:

> To re-install the user's data and apps is trivial since all I need to do is
> copy the data hierarchy to a safe place and then re-install, one by one,

You're joking, surely. My Moto Droid X2 lists 195 apps. I'm certainly not
going spend a day a month clicking each one's .apk to re-install it, month
after month after month. (Sheesh!) But enjoy it, if that's what you do. 

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#34727

FromHorace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com>
Date2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
Message-ID<ns69o3$1g95$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34703
On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 01:09:39 -0400, tlvp wrote:

> You're joking, surely. My Moto Droid X2 lists 195 apps. I'm certainly not
> going spend a day a month clicking each one's .apk to re-install it, month
> after month after month. (Sheesh!) But enjoy it, if that's what you do.

I understand what you're saying.

What you're saying is that you have your tools and files strewn about all
over your garage workbench desktop, and if I suddenly called independent
cleaners to your house, and they piled all the tools and data that you have
strewn about on your desktop into a big box, you'd *never* be able to put
them back in the hugely disorganized mess that *was* your desktop before
the cleaners arrived.

In stark contrast, I have a desktop with as many apps as you have, but
which is well organized (and where less often used apps are accessed from
inside the app drawer apps):
http://i.cubeupload.com/uXWitP.png

And, I keep all my *data* (including app data!) in 
/extSdCard/data/{my hierarchy}.

The tools are in the /extSdCard/data/software/{APKs by folder} using the
*same* folder hierarchy as my desktop uses.
http://i.cubeupload.com/vgcc7N.png

So, it *is* trivial to reinstall everything.
I don't even back things up (since they're already on the SD card).

1. I remove the SD card & SIM card (just in case).
2. I factory reset
3. I put back the SD card & SIM card

That gives me all my data (including app data!).

4. Then I reinstall all the apps, folder by folder, from the APKs.
(Notice there is no need for Google Play or F-Droid at this time!)

5. The only "complex" thing is that I have to set up things, but luckily
the file-redirector apps work just fine from their backup data. 

So, the only thing I have to *manually* set up are the *permissions* which
are different from default.

Which is why you see a spate of posts from me on how to best make those
decisions of non-default setup for the apps and the operating system.

I'm always honing my setup. Every single day.
Because I'm *organized*, it's trivial to recover from a factory-default.

That holds true for Linux, iOS, Windows, or Android - although the huge
limitations of iOS make any attempt at an organized plan a shamble.

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#34750

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-09-24 18:17 -0400
Message-ID<198e40yg50ibp$.1j3auad8qs5jw.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#34727
On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algiers wrote:

>  if I suddenly called independent
> cleaners to your house, and they piled all the tools and data that you have
> strewn about on your desktop into a big box, ...

If you did that, I'd have you (and them) arrested for felonious entry :-) .

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#34640

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2016-09-23 08:24 +0200
Message-ID<d308838a-8959-d7d7-0379-89e3d2cdfc38@arnowelzel.de>
In reply to#34614
Horace Algiers schrieb am 2016-09-23 um 00:43:

> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 21:13:35 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote:
> 
>>> Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps?
>>> http://i.cubeupload.com/zNtJ10.png
>>>
>>> Just about monthly, I reset my Android phone to factory defaults, where I
>>> re-install my apps from auto-archived APKs without creating a Google Play
>>> account.
>>
>> And usually most people don't do this.
> 
> Which are you saying most people don't do?
> a. Declining or accepting Google checking of the apps?
> b. Installing apps from previously-saved APKs

None of the above. I talk about this:

"Just about monthly, I reset my Android phone to factory defaults, where
I re-install my apps from auto-archived APKs without creating a Google
Play account."


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de
http://de-rec-fahrrad.de
http://fahrradzukunft.de

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#34644

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2016-09-23 10:17 +0100
Message-ID<e4ka9pFiqeuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34640
Arno Welzel wrote:

> None of the above. I talk about this:
>
> "Just about monthly, I reset my Android phone to factory defaults, where
> I re-install my apps from auto-archived APKs without creating a Google
> Play account."

You'd think that one who was so concerned about security and privacy 
might run a version of Android that isn't 4 years old and no longer 
receiving updates?

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