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There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

Started byHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
First post2016-09-14 08:07 +0000
Last post2016-09-14 14:10 -0400
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  There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 08:07 +0000
    Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 05:59 -0400
      Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> - 2016-09-14 18:58 +0100
        Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 14:10 -0400
        Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 19:53 +0000
          Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 15:59 -0400
        Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 18:11 +0000
          Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-16 14:46 -0400
            Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 19:30 +0000
              Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-16 15:40 -0400
                Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:10 +0000
                  Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-16 23:19 -0400
                    Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:57 +0000
                      Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 00:06 -0400
                      Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-09-20 11:42 -0400
                        Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-20 17:02 +0000
                          Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-20 13:32 -0400
                            Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:02 +0000
                              Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:09 +1000
                          Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-09-20 14:06 -0400
                            Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:02 +0000
                              Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:03 +1000
                          Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 04:19 +1000
                  Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:57 +1000
              Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 10:11 +1000
                Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:10 +0000
                  Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 15:27 +1000
                Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2016-09-17 10:09 -0400
                  Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 05:05 +1000
                    Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 22:35 +0000
                      Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 18:42 -0400
                        Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 02:06 +0000
                      Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:32 +1000
                        Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 02:06 +0000
                          Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 15:25 +1000
                            Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 07:11 +0000
                              Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 07:31 +0000
                              Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 19:21 +1000
                                Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 23:00 +0000
                                  Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 09:46 +1000
                                    Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-19 16:22 +0000
                                      Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 05:40 +1000
            Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 15:42 -0400
              Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:10 +0000
                Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 15:21 +1000
      Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 18:05 +0000
        Re: There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 14:10 -0400

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#34534

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-21 05:02 +0000
Message-ID<nrt49d$1ioc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34515
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:06:25 -0400, PAS wrote:

> I doubt you'll find a cheaper plan than the one you are already on.  May 
> I ask how long you've had this plan?

When I left AT&T, they were forcing people with new plans to have data, and
it was when I was still using a Blackberry so, it was about 5 years ago
that I left AT&T for T-mobile.

At that time, I had a $60/month family plan of 4 phones with zero data, and
I was fine with that.

I wish I had kept it, but I travel to Europe so often that I needed the
Euro bonuses of the $100/month plan, which was 20 cents a minute in Europe
for any call and unlimited data in Europe.

I've been on *that* $100/month plan for a couple of years now. 
They no longer offer it, but just today I called T-Mobile and they tried to
get me on this plan:

T-Mobile ONE
- automatic payment
- $140/month for 4 phones
- Unlimited talk & text & data 
- Some additional Euro goodies (not worth much though)

So, basically, for $40/month for 4 phones, I can get all 4 on unlimited
data where they can "tether" at 3G speeds. When asked what tethering meant
to them, they gave me BS so I asked for the second level of support, and
what they call "tethering" is actually hot spotting because no cable is
involved.

So, for 4 phones, my choices are:
a. $100/month with currently 4GB of data per phone (nominally 2.5 GB)
b. $140/month with unlimited data (and unlimited 3G hot spotting)

Since I'm fine with the 4GB of data (only one person in the group, which
includes more than the local family uses any data at all) the $100/month
plan for 4 phones is just fine.

There is no better plan that anyone actually *knows* about, although Rod
Speed and nospam (as always) allude coyishly to mysterious non-existent
plans, just because they have nothing to offer of any concrete value.

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#34545

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-21 17:03 +1000
Message-ID<e4epltF9627U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34534

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message 
news:nrt49d$1ioc$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:06:25 -0400, PAS wrote:
>
>> I doubt you'll find a cheaper plan than the one you are already on.  May
>> I ask how long you've had this plan?
>
> When I left AT&T, they were forcing people with new plans to have data, 
> and
> it was when I was still using a Blackberry so, it was about 5 years ago
> that I left AT&T for T-mobile.
>
> At that time, I had a $60/month family plan of 4 phones with zero data, 
> and
> I was fine with that.
>
> I wish I had kept it, but I travel to Europe so often that I needed the
> Euro bonuses of the $100/month plan, which was 20 cents a minute in Europe
> for any call and unlimited data in Europe.
>
> I've been on *that* $100/month plan for a couple of years now.
> They no longer offer it, but just today I called T-Mobile and they tried 
> to
> get me on this plan:
>
> T-Mobile ONE
> - automatic payment
> - $140/month for 4 phones
> - Unlimited talk & text & data
> - Some additional Euro goodies (not worth much though)
>
> So, basically, for $40/month for 4 phones, I can get all 4 on unlimited
> data where they can "tether" at 3G speeds. When asked what tethering meant
> to them, they gave me BS so I asked for the second level of support, and
> what they call "tethering" is actually hot spotting because no cable is
> involved.
>
> So, for 4 phones, my choices are:
> a. $100/month with currently 4GB of data per phone (nominally 2.5 GB)
> b. $140/month with unlimited data (and unlimited 3G hot spotting)
>
> Since I'm fine with the 4GB of data (only one person in the group, which
> includes more than the local family uses any data at all) the $100/month
> plan for 4 phones is just fine.
>
> There is no better plan that anyone actually *knows* about, although Rod
> Speed and nospam (as always) allude coyishly to mysterious non-existent
> plans, just because they have nothing to offer of any concrete value.

More of your bare faced lies. We don’t bother because
you ignore anything anyone ever finds for you. 

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#34517

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-21 04:19 +1000
Message-ID<e4dd2uFttvvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34511
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> PAS wrote

>> There's no free lunch or phone.  The trade-in has value, say
>> $300.00 for example.  You're handing them $300.00 and getting
>> an iPhone 7. Your plan also has built-in cost that pays for
>> subsidized phones. Whether you think so or not, or whether
>> or not the fine print indicates, you're paying for that iPhone 7.

> You bring up perfectly valid points, which I don't think *anyone* is
> disagreeing with, since they're pretty commononly excepted truisms...

You have in fact repeatedly claimed that the 7 would
be a free phone when it is nothing of the kind.

> 1. There is no free lunch or free phone
> 2. The postpaid service plan has a built-in cost that subsidizes phones

> To clarify, while we never *paid* for the cracked-screen 64GB iPhone 6, it
> has a "value", which you asssessed at $300, so I'll accept that as its 
> value.

> Following your lead, we could *sell* the old 64GB iPhone 6 for $300 cash,
> and, then *buy* an unlocked Qualcomm-modem 32GB iPhone 7 for $650 plus
> about $50 sales tax.

> So the iPhone 7 would cost $400 in the end.

> As for the postpaid "service plan", remember that I already have 4 phones
> on the *best* service plan in my area, bar none, for what "I" need,

Another lie.

> which is:
> a. Unlimited calls and texts (free USA calls)
> b. Some data (currently 4GB/month/phone)
> c. Travel goodies (20 cents/minute calls & unlimited data in Europe)

> Despite all the duplicitously coy responses to the contrary from Rod 
> Speed,

More of your bare faced lies.

> *nobody* can find a *better* postpaid price:performance plan
> with similar coverage in the Silicon Valley area. Nobody.

No one has actually been stupid enough to waste their
time because you would just ignore everything.

> Not on T-Mobile.
> Not on Verizon.
> Not on AT&T.

More of your lies.

> Not even Google Fi (which is relatively close
> though but it requires all new phones!).

> These are the best cell phone plans and deals out there
> DATE: Monday, September 19th 2016
> http://www.clark.com/best-cell-phone-deals-for-2016

Wrong, as always.

> Since *nobody* can find a better plan than I can,

More of your lies.

> we leave it that, yes, the phones are subsidized by the plan,

So they arent in fact free at all.

> but they'd have to be subsidized anyway -
> whether or not I get the "free" iPhone 7.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

And it makes a hell of a lot more sense to keep the
6 until the design fault manifests and see apple
replace it when that happens, with a phone with
at least as much memory, and no sales tax to pay,

But again, you just keep ignoring what everyone
tells you, so no one is going to bother rubbing your
stupid pig ignorant nose in what is better value for
you than that ripoff plan you are currently stupid
enough to use. 

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#34339

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 16:57 +1000
Message-ID<e447roFmu9vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34325
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote 
> nospam wrote

>> ask for help on the bigger words, such as 
>> the ones with more than two syllables.
 
> You can't insult your way out of the fact you still thought 
> until now that T-Mobile charges you if you don't actually 
> ever use the phone on the service plan.

More of your lies. He has never ever said anything like that.  

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#34316

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 10:11 +1000
Message-ID<e43g1lFi0ruU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34301
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote 
> nospam wrote
 
>> as long as you keep paying for the phone, 
>> why would they care what you do with it?
 
>> you wanted something for free. it ain't free.
 
> With respect to the trade-in-deal with T-Mobile, where you trade 
> in an iPhone 6 for an iPhone 7, you never *pay* for the phone. 

Corse you do, you have to keep using 
their expensive phone service for 2 years. 

> The fine print shows that you simply *get* the phone.

The fine print shows nothing of the sort, it actually shows that
you have to keep paying their stupid price for a cellphone
service for 2 years otherwise you get to pay for the phone. 
 
> They only care that you stay on your 
> current T-Mobile *service* for two years.

And that is what you pay for the phone, stupid. 
 

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#34324

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-17 03:10 +0000
Message-ID<nric6q$184e$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34316
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:11:28 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> The fine print shows nothing of the sort, it actually shows that
> you have to keep paying their stupid price for a cellphone
> service for 2 years otherwise you get to pay for the phone.

You completely missed the very many times we said we'd stay on the service
anyway.

Out here, there really are only three *viable* choices:
1. Verizon (I left them for good for upping my contract when I replaced a
phone under warranty)
2. AT&T (I left them for good when their VP called me after my FCC
complaint to insist that a smart phone is uselss if it doesn't have data)
3. T-Mobile (I'm perfectly happy with them)

Since you *insist* that my T-mobile plan is *too expensive*, then just give
me a URL for a less expensive plan that gives me the same thing I have now.

That is, tell me how much it would cost (give me URLS!) for four phones
with unlimited text and phone (USA only) and 3.5GB (currently) of data?

If you can get that for less than $100 a month in the USA, it will be
impressive. Otherwise, you're not stating a fact. 

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#34333

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 15:27 +1000
Message-ID<e442hrFlqdaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34324
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> The fine print shows nothing of the sort, it actually shows that
>> you have to keep paying their stupid price for a cellphone
>> service for 2 years otherwise you get to pay for the phone.

> You completely missed the very many times
> we said we'd stay on the service anyway.

I missed nothing. Yes, you actually are stupid enough to keep doing that.

> Out here, there really are only three *viable* choices:

Wrong, as always.

> 1. Verizon (I left them for good for upping my
> contract when I replaced a phone under warranty)
> 2. AT&T (I left them for good when their VP called me after my FCC
> complaint to insist that a smart phone is uselss if it doesn't have data)
> 3. T-Mobile (I'm perfectly happy with them)

You are free to use a reseller of all of those.

> Since you *insist* that my T-mobile plan is *too expensive*, then just 
> give
> me a URL for a less expensive plan that gives me the same thing I have 
> now.

Get off your lard arse and do that for yourself.

> That is, tell me how much it would cost (give me URLS!) for four phones
> with unlimited text and phone (USA only) and 3.5GB (currently) of data?

Get off your lard arse and do that for yourself.

> If you can get that for less than $100 a month in the USA,
> it will be impressive. Otherwise, you're not stating a fact.

More of your bare faced lies. 

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#34348

FromTravis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net>
Date2016-09-17 10:09 -0400
Message-ID<nrjiqd$ddu$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#34316
On 9/16/16 8:11 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
>> nospam wrote
>
>>> as long as you keep paying for the phone, why would they care what
>>> you do with it?
>
>>> you wanted something for free. it ain't free.
>
>> With respect to the trade-in-deal with T-Mobile, where you trade in an
>> iPhone 6 for an iPhone 7, you never *pay* for the phone.
>
> Corse you do, you have to keep using their expensive phone service for 2
> years.
>> The fine print shows that you simply *get* the phone.
>
> The fine print shows nothing of the sort, it actually shows that
> you have to keep paying their stupid price for a cellphone
> service for 2 years otherwise you get to pay for the phone.
>> They only care that you stay on your current T-Mobile *service* for
>> two years.
>
> And that is what you pay for the phone, stupid.

C'mon guys- who really cares about all that?

I mean like when the new car models are released each year, does anyone 
start drooling over stories about what length and gauge wire goes from 
the throttle to the fuel injector?

-- 
Everyone brings joy to my life. Some when they enter it and some when 
they leave it.

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#34355

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 05:05 +1000
Message-ID<e45ifkF2j13U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34348
Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> wrote 
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
>>> nospam wrote

>>>> as long as you keep paying for the phone, 
>>>> why would they care what you do with it?

>>>> you wanted something for free. it ain't free.

>>> With respect to the trade-in-deal with T-Mobile, where you trade 
>>> in an iPhone 6 for an iPhone 7, you never *pay* for the phone.

>> Corse you do, you have to keep using their 
>> expensive phone service for 2 years.

>>> The fine print shows that you simply *get* the phone.

>> The fine print shows nothing of the sort, it actually shows that
>> you have to keep paying their stupid price for a cellphone
>> service for 2 years otherwise you get to pay for the phone.

>>> They only care that you stay on your current T-Mobile *service* for
>>> two years.

>> And that is what you pay for the phone, stupid.

> C'mon guys- who really cares about all that?

Those who care what they pay for a cellphone service do. 
 
> I mean like when the new car models are released each year, 
> does anyone start drooling over stories about what length 
> and gauge wire goes from the throttle to the fuel injector?

Irrelevant to what we are discussing there.  

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#34375

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-17 22:35 +0000
Message-ID<nrkgf8$i16$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34355
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 05:05:21 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Those who care what they pay for a cellphone service do.

Rod, 

You don't think in terms of "additional costs".

You keep ignoring the simple fact which is that I'm gonna stay with
T-mobile for the next two years, whether or not a "free" phone is involved.

I already *asked* and nobody here knows of a *better* service plan than
what I'm on now anyway, for the big three in the US, which is:
- $100 for 4 phones with unlim talk & text 
- 3.5GB data (currently) per phone
- Special goodies when traveling overseas (which is why I moved off the
$60/month plan and now they won't let me back on that plan)

Plus, I've had all three, and I *like* T-Mobile, simply because they're far
more "consumer friendly" than are the other big two.

Therefore, the fact that you keep *saying* that the cost is in the service
is fine - because it is - but - you keep forgetting that I'm gonna *stay*
on the service anyway - and that there is no known ;ess-expsnsive
comparable service plan anyway on any of the big three in the US.

So there are no *additional* costs, whether I get the "free" phone or not
(other than the initial tax on the iPhone 7).

Do you concur?

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#34377

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-09-17 18:42 -0400
Message-ID<170920161842064499%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#34375
In article <nrkgf8$i16$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algier
<horatio@horatio.net> wrote:

> 
> I already *asked* and nobody here knows of a *better* service plan than
> what I'm on now anyway, for the big three in the US, which is:
> - $100 for 4 phones with unlim talk & text 
> - 3.5GB data (currently) per phone
> - Special goodies when traveling overseas (which is why I moved off the
> $60/month plan and now they won't let me back on that plan)

there are definitely better and cheaper plans, but why should anyone
bother to suggest anything to you when you ignore what people say and
just keep on arguing.

> Plus, I've had all three, and I *like* T-Mobile, simply because they're far
> more "consumer friendly" than are the other big two.

there are more than two others.

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#34407

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-18 02:06 +0000
Message-ID<nrksrd$106n$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34377
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 18:42:06 -0400, nospam wrote:

> there are definitely better and cheaper plans

No plan suggested for the big three was better for 4 phones, unlim calls
and text, and at least 3.5GB/phone/month with European goodies (unlimited
data and calls at 20 cents a minute both ways).

If there was a better plan on the big three, I'd already be on it.

NOTE: I already discussed I'm sick and tired of the pay-as-you-go
shenanigans, which I've done with AT&T & T-Mobile for years.

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#34398

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 11:32 +1000
Message-ID<e4696eF8115U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34375
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Those who care what they pay for a cellphone service do.

> You don't think in terms of "additional costs".

You're wrong, as always. I ALWAYS think of the total cost.

> You keep ignoring the simple fact which is that I'm gonna stay with
> T-mobile for the next two years, whether or not a "free" phone is 
> involved.

I'm ignoring nothing, I keep rubbing your stupid nose in the fact
that you are paying a stupid price for your cellphone services.

> I already *asked* and nobody here knows of a *better* service
> plan than what I'm on now anyway, for the big three in the US,

THAT’S WHERE YOU ARE FUCKING UP, FUCKWIT.

IT IS STUPID TO ONLY CONSIDER THE CARRIER THEMSELVES
AND NOT RESELLERS OF THOSE CARRIERS.

 

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#34406

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-18 02:06 +0000
Message-ID<nrksrb$106n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34398
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:32:52 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

>  I ALWAYS think of the total cost.

So do I.
There's nothing wrong with thinking about *total cost*, where, in fact, the
total cost, with or without the "free" iPhone 7 is the same for the next
two years (excepting the sales tax).

>> You keep ignoring the simple fact which is that I'm gonna stay with
>> T-mobile for the next two years, whether or not a "free" phone is 
>> involved.
> 
> I'm ignoring nothing, I keep rubbing your stupid nose in the fact
> that you are paying a stupid price for your cellphone services.

There is no plan from the big three in the USA that is better than mine.
And pay-as-you-go doesn't cut it (I've been there and done that).

Pay-as-you-go would drive the other 3 people nuts, in fact.
So they'd drive me nuts (since some are women!).
 
>> I already *asked* and nobody here knows of a *better* service
>> plan than what I'm on now anyway, for the big three in the US,
> 
> THAT㏎ WHERE YOU ARE FUCKING UP, FUCKWIT.
> 
> IT IS STUPID TO ONLY CONSIDER THE CARRIER THEMSELVES
> AND NOT RESELLERS OF THOSE CARRIERS.

I have had Verizon.
I have had AT&T.
I have had T-Mobile.

They're all good and bad but if you know of a monthly plan by a "reseller"
for my 4 phones, that is *better* than mine, what *is* that plan?

Simply give me a company name that has a phone number that I can call as
soon as I get your response.

Just one word - a company name that has a phone number that I can call to
ask them what they'd offer to me to compete with my current T-Mobile plan
of 4 phones, unlimited talk & text, 3.5GB/month, and European goodies such
as unlimited data and 20 cents a minute.

Note: The kids text like fiends, and the wife sends only about 50 or so
text a day, while I probably send only about five a day on average (if
that). 

The kids are on the phone 24/7 making calls to their friends, and they use
the data but the wife and I could do just as well with 200 MB of data or
less a month.

Only one kid bumps up against the data limits though (because she doesn't
have the sense to turn off sync of unnecessary stuff, mostly). The other
kid is a smarter kid and has data under control. 

I'm sick of the pay-as-you-go restrictions, so, that's not an option (been
burned too many times as I don't keep up with expiry dates). 

My point in explaining my needs is that I don't have to exactly match my
current T-Mobile plan - but I have to match the *needs* of the 4 members of
the plan.

Me? I could do just fine with something like 10 calls a day and 10 texts a
day and 500KB a day - but there are others involved some of whom are kids,
and half of whom are not technically astute (which makes life difficult
technically). (The boys know far more than the girls, in almost everything,
except makeup and clothes and fashion and cooking, etc.).

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#34423

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 15:25 +1000
Message-ID<e46mr2FaqiqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34406
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>  I ALWAYS think of the total cost.

> So do I.
> There's nothing wrong with thinking about *total cost*, where, in fact, 
> the
> total cost, with or without the "free" iPhone 7 is the same for the next
> two years (excepting the sales tax).

Only because you are actually stupid enough to be paying for the
'free' phone even when you arent actually getting a free phone.

>>> You keep ignoring the simple fact which is that I'm gonna stay with
>>> T-mobile for the next two years, whether or not a "free" phone is
>>> involved.

>> I'm ignoring nothing, I keep rubbing your stupid nose in the fact
>> that you are paying a stupid price for your cellphone services.

> There is no plan from the big three in the USA

Only a terminal fuckwit such as yourself is actually stupid enough
to only ever use one of the big three and not a reseller of those.

> And pay-as-you-go doesn't cut it (I've been there and done that).

> Pay-as-you-go would drive the other 3 people nuts, in fact.
> So they'd drive me nuts (since some are women!).

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

>>> I already *asked* and nobody here knows of a *better* service
>>> plan than what I'm on now anyway, for the big three in the US,

>> THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE FUCKING UP, FUCKWIT.

>> IT IS STUPID TO ONLY CONSIDER THE CARRIER THEMSELVES
>> AND NOT RESELLERS OF THOSE CARRIERS.

> I have had Verizon.
> I have had AT&T.
> I have had T-Mobile.

> They're all good and bad but if you know of a monthly plan by a "reseller"
> for my 4 phones, that is *better* than mine, what *is* that plan?

Like nospam said, no one is going to do your work for you,
you'll just be a terminal fuckwit and ignore it whatever is found.

 

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#34430

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-18 07:11 +0000
Message-ID<nrlenl$1kc2$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34423
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 15:25:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Like nospam said, no one is going to do your work for you,

In other words, you just made it up and can't prove a word you said.

I prove what I say; you never do.

Here's "my" T-Mobile plan:
1. No contract 4 phones for $100/month (plus regulatory stuff)
2. Unlimited calls to/from usa & unlimited texts
3. 2-1/2GB data per phone (special promo of 4GB data up to 2/19/2017)
4. In Europe, unlimited data & all in-country and to/from USA calls are 20 
cents/minute 
5. Tablets are free 200GB/month data
6. I can use *any* GSM phone that I want to use (they don't care)

I moved off the $60/month plan to the $100/month plan mostly for the Europe 
plan since we live in Europe every year for at least a month or two.

If I want *more* data (I never do), it's:
TABLET:
- add $10 for 2GB/month (which you can add or cancel at any time)
- add $20 for 6GB/month (which you can add or cancel at any time)
PHONE:
- add $15 for 6GB/month (which you can add or cancel at any time)
- add $30 for 10GB/month (which you can add or cancel at any time)
- add $45 for unlimited data (which you can add or cancel at any time)

Does *anyone* on this entire set of newsgroups have a *better* plan that 
that above which averages $25/month per phone (plus fees) for unlimited 
calls and texts and 2.5GB of data and good Europe prices?

If so, by way of comparison, what does *your* plan for 4 phones cost and 
deliver?

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#34431

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-18 07:31 +0000
Message-ID<nrlfrh$1lpf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34430
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 07:11:49 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:

> Does *anyone* on this entire set of newsgroups have a *better* plan that 
> that above which averages $25/month per phone (plus fees) for unlimited 
> calls and texts and 2.5GB of data and good Europe prices?

While it's impressive how often Rod Speed and nospam can't back up what
they say, I can, and do, so here's a list of the lowest cost reasonable
plans available currently (this article is dated June 21, 2016).

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375644,00.asp
The Best Cheap Cell Phone Plans You've Never Heard Of

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#34434

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 19:21 +1000
Message-ID<e474l8Fdv11U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34430
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Like nospam said, no one is going to do your work for you,

> In other words, you just made it up and can't prove a word you said.

More of your lies.

After I put in considerable effort pointing out the advantages
of using a cloud, only to have you, the terminal fuckwit, actually
stupid enough to keep proclaiming that manually moving stuff
about using bluetooth is better, you'll have to pardon me if I
don’t actually bother to waste my time with rubbing your
stupid nose in where you can do better than T-Mobile.

> I prove what I say; you never do.

More of your lies with the use of the cloud, how to
play youtube videos with then screen off, etc etc etc.

Like I said, when you can't do any better than lie thru
your fucking teeth, here goes the chain on your lying shit.
 

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#34450

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-18 23:00 +0000
Message-ID<nrn6ab$hbp$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#34434
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:21:32 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

>  lying shit.

Your language skills are impressive.

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#34455

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-19 09:46 +1000
Message-ID<e48nbhFpvmdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34450

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message 
news:nrn6ab$hbp$2@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:21:32 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>  lying shit.
>
> Your language skills are impressive.

Your pathetic excuse for bullshit/trolling never ever was. 

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