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  dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 15:48 -0600
    Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 00:48 +0200
      Re: TTS on GPS (was: dictation without internet?) "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-11 22:12 -0500
        Re: TTS on GPS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 14:16 +0200
          Re: TTS on GPS Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-13 10:30 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:36 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-12 16:29 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:34 -0600
    Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-12 01:06 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-09-12 07:54 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 14:19 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 17:01 +0000
            Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:23 +0200
              Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 19:35 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 02:42 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:50 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:30 +0200
    Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 03:02 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:43 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 15:00 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 21:02 +0000
            Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:27 -0600
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:26 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:04 +0200
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:00 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-15 02:34 +0200
            Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:21 -0600
              Re: dictation without internet? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 19:38 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:37 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:49 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:46 -0600
                  Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:52 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-15 08:40 +0200
            Re: dictation without internet? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2016-09-15 15:38 -0400
              Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 16:02 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:45 -0500
            Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:55 -0500
              Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-17 16:33 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 02:18 +0200
              Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 11:57 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:43 -0500
    Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:08 +0200
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:21 -0500
        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-15 17:09 -0500
            Re: dictation without internet? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 23:20 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:16 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:59 -0500
                  Re: dictation without internet? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-17 14:06 -0700
              Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:40 -0600
            Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:14 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 02:46 +0200
    Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 01:08 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:31 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 16:45 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:29 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:21 -0600
          Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-16 16:44 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 03:00 +0200

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#34134 — dictation without internet?

Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
internet connection?  TIA.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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#34135

On 2016-09-11 23:48, crankypuss wrote:
> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
> internet connection?  TIA.

You are the second chap I see asking that or similar :-)
In alt.comp.linux last week.

I don't remember the name, and I lost the device that did it. Perhaps I
kept backups and can have a look next week.

The TomTom car navigator does it in a limited way, and it runs in Linux.
The older device that I lost had one cute feature: you could have a look
at the filesystem and learn things. One of those things was the name of
the speech engine. If I recall correctly it was Italian and payware. In
a few days I may be able to look at backups and find out that name again
and tell you.

[...]

Wait, I just found I had a partial copy in the laptop. It is
"LoquendoTTS". Google finds hits on it. Probably you can find more from
that and tell us what you find :-)

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#34139 — Re: TTS on GPS (was: dictation without internet?)

On 09-11-2016 17:48, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The TomTom car navigator does it in a limited way, and it runs in Linux.
> The older device that I lost had one cute feature: you could have a look
> at the filesystem and learn things. One of those things was the name of
> the speech engine. If I recall correctly it was Italian and payware. In
> a few days I may be able to look at backups and find out that name again
> and tell you.

Text-to-speech is not dictation.

But since you bring it up, I've never seen a GPS TTS that doesn't suck 
in a country that doesn't use it's language.  If you set it to English, 
it will use English rules to pronounce the street names.  In a country 
speaking Spanish or Italian, this means that we've past the street by 
the time I figure out what it was supposed to be saying.

-- 
Wes Groleau

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#34144 — Re: TTS on GPS

On 2016-09-12 05:12, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
> On 09-11-2016 17:48, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> The TomTom car navigator does it in a limited way, and it runs in Linux.
>> The older device that I lost had one cute feature: you could have a look
>> at the filesystem and learn things. One of those things was the name of
>> the speech engine. If I recall correctly it was Italian and payware. In
>> a few days I may be able to look at backups and find out that name again
>> and tell you.
> 
> Text-to-speech is not dictation.

You can give it orders by voice. The vocabulary is limited, yes, it is
not that good as Google dictaphone, but it exists :-)


> But since you bring it up, I've never seen a GPS TTS that doesn't suck
> in a country that doesn't use it's language.  If you set it to English,
> it will use English rules to pronounce the street names.  In a country
> speaking Spanish or Italian, this means that we've past the street by
> the time I figure out what it was supposed to be saying.

Well, I have a tomtom, and most things it says I understand first time,
in Spanish. It is some city names that get weird pronunciation,
confusing a vowel (which is weird, because Spanish has strict
pronunciation rules from written text). Not as bad as not knowing what
it means, though. Only enough to laugh at it. For instance it pronounces
"Murcia" as "Murcie", and "giro" seems similar to "kiro".

The LoquendoTTS engine you can test at their website. What I do not know
for sure is if the voice recognition engine is from them, too.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#34169 — Re: TTS on GPS

In message <otiiad-o23.ln1@minas-tirith.valinor> 
  Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:
> On 2016-09-12 05:12, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
>> On 09-11-2016 17:48, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> The TomTom car navigator does it in a limited way, and it runs in Linux.
>>> The older device that I lost had one cute feature: you could have a look
>>> at the filesystem and learn things. One of those things was the name of
>>> the speech engine. If I recall correctly it was Italian and payware. In
>>> a few days I may be able to look at backups and find out that name again
>>> and tell you.
>> 
>> Text-to-speech is not dictation.

> You can give it orders by voice. The vocabulary is limited, yes, it is
> not that good as Google dictaphone, but it exists :-)

That is not dictation.

-- 
"Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on
it?" - Mark Twain

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#34149

On 09/11/2016 04:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2016-09-11 23:48, crankypuss wrote:
>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>> internet connection?  TIA.
>
> You are the second chap I see asking that or similar :-)
> In alt.comp.linux last week.
>
> I don't remember the name, and I lost the device that did it. Perhaps I
> kept backups and can have a look next week.
>
> The TomTom car navigator does it in a limited way, and it runs in Linux.
> The older device that I lost had one cute feature: you could have a look
> at the filesystem and learn things. One of those things was the name of
> the speech engine. If I recall correctly it was Italian and payware. In
> a few days I may be able to look at backups and find out that name again
> and tell you.
>
> [...]
>
> Wait, I just found I had a partial copy in the laptop. It is
> "LoquendoTTS". Google finds hits on it. Probably you can find more from
> that and tell us what you find :-)
>

What I find is Nuance's Dragon Dictation.  I've heard it's good, but I 
won't pay a nickel for anything that requires internet access, I already 
have Siri for dictation as part of iOS but it's useless without internet 
access and my connectivity through Verizon is marginal at best due to 
location.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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#34159

On 09-12-2016 11:36, crankypuss wrote:
> What I find is Nuance's Dragon Dictation.  I've heard it's good, but I
> won't pay a nickel for anything that requires internet access, I already
> have Siri for dictation as part of iOS but it's useless without internet
> access and my connectivity through Verizon is marginal at best due to
> location.

I'm pretty sure Nuance is the engine for Dictation on the Mac.  By 
default it uses the 'net but it allows you to download what is needed to 
use it off-line.  I don't know the size of that stuff, but the IOS 
version doesn't offer the option.

I found around a dozen dictation apps for IOS.  Most of them stated they 
need to contact a server.  I didn't bother to try the ones that didn't 
say.  For two of them, "Dictation" meant you record your voice and then 
hand the phone to a human typist.  :-)

-- 
Wes Groleau

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#34182

On 09/12/2016 03:29 PM, W. Wesley Groleau wrote:
> On 09-12-2016 11:36, crankypuss wrote:
>> What I find is Nuance's Dragon Dictation.  I've heard it's good, but I
>> won't pay a nickel for anything that requires internet access, I already
>> have Siri for dictation as part of iOS but it's useless without internet
>> access and my connectivity through Verizon is marginal at best due to
>> location.
>
> I'm pretty sure Nuance is the engine for Dictation on the Mac.  By
> default it uses the 'net but it allows you to download what is needed to
> use it off-line.  I don't know the size of that stuff, but the IOS
> version doesn't offer the option.
>
> I found around a dozen dictation apps for IOS.  Most of them stated they
> need to contact a server.  I didn't bother to try the ones that didn't
> say.  For two of them, "Dictation" meant you record your voice and then
> hand the phone to a human typist.  :-)
>

...who then uses one of the special court-recorder typewriters to input 
the phonemes spoken, and given the list of phonemes and the language, 
run that through a sound-index on the language's dictionary, and voila, 
you have the text spoken.

Hey, if I thought I was the first to figure it out, and I wanted to make 
a bunch of money, I'd stick the important stuff on a server too, and 
rent the result to people who'd buy the idea that voice-to-text has to 
run on a mainframe or some crap because of "all that data" and "all that 
processing power".  Every one of us has a mainframe in his pocket.

Whatever, this is the kind of crap you can expect in a monetized 
society, dontcha think so, Aardvarks?  Good thing I'm a touch typist, if 
I had to rely on the shit that's available without network access, I'd 
need to move to a city or shut my fat face.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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#34140

crankypuss wrote:

> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
> internet connection?  TIA.

What about the keyboard included in Android?  I open the Memo app, state
a new not, and the keyboard shows up.  In it is a microphone icon.  Tap
on that and the Google voice input dialog appears.  When it is ready, I
speak and the text shows up in the note.  I can tap it again to pause
input and continue later.  It's probably the same voice-to-text feature
that shows up when I do online searches; i.e., the mic icon in the
keyboard.

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#34141

On 2016-09-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> crankypuss wrote:
>
>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
>> internet connection?  TIA.
>
> What about the keyboard included in Android?  I open the Memo app, state
> a new not, and the keyboard shows up.  In it is a microphone icon.  Tap
> on that and the Google voice input dialog appears.  When it is ready, I
> speak and the text shows up in the note.  I can tap it again to pause
> input and continue later.  It's probably the same voice-to-text feature
> that shows up when I do online searches; i.e., the mic icon in the
> keyboard.

I'm fairly sure that connects to a server somewhere that does speech
to text, turn on "airplane mode" and see what happens.

-- 
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#34145

On 2016-09-12 09:54, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2016-09-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>> crankypuss wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
>>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
>>> internet connection?  TIA.
>>
>> What about the keyboard included in Android?  I open the Memo app, state
>> a new not, and the keyboard shows up.  In it is a microphone icon.  Tap
>> on that and the Google voice input dialog appears.  When it is ready, I
>> speak and the text shows up in the note.  I can tap it again to pause
>> input and continue later.  It's probably the same voice-to-text feature
>> that shows up when I do online searches; i.e., the mic icon in the
>> keyboard.
> 
> I'm fairly sure that connects to a server somewhere that does speech
> to text, turn on "airplane mode" and see what happens.

Yes, it is "on line" service. They warn against using it for passwords
and other very sensitive data (in the conditions of use or in the help).

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#34148

Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it is "on line" service. They warn against using it for passwords
> and other very sensitive data (in the conditions of use or in the help).

Then you aren't helping. The OP wrote:

"Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) *without* requiring an
internet connection? TIA."

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#34151

On 2016-09-12 19:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it is "on line" service. They warn against using it for passwords
>> and other very sensitive data (in the conditions of use or in the help).
> 
> Then you aren't helping. The OP wrote:
> 
> "Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) *without* requiring an
> internet connection? TIA."

You are not reading.

Jasen wanted to confirm if it was online, answering a post by VanguardLH
who suggested it.

I suggested a set of libraries that work totally offline, in another
post. Payware. With doubts about it being good enough.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#34153

Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:
> On 2016-09-12 19:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it is "on line" service. They warn against using it for passwords
>>> and other very sensitive data (in the conditions of use or in the help).
>> 
>> Then you aren't helping. The OP wrote:
>> 
>> "Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) *without* requiring an
>> internet connection? TIA."
> 
> You are not reading.
> 
> Jasen wanted to confirm if it was online, answering a post by VanguardLH
> who suggested it.

Thanks; it is VanguardLH who is not helping.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#34165

Jasen Betts wrote:

> On 2016-09-12, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>> crankypuss wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
>>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
>>> internet connection?  TIA.
>>
>> What about the keyboard included in Android?  I open the Memo app, state
>> a new not, and the keyboard shows up.  In it is a microphone icon.  Tap
>> on that and the Google voice input dialog appears.  When it is ready, I
>> speak and the text shows up in the note.  I can tap it again to pause
>> input and continue later.  It's probably the same voice-to-text feature
>> that shows up when I do online searches; i.e., the mic icon in the
>> keyboard.
> 
> I'm fairly sure that connects to a server somewhere that does speech
> to text, turn on "airplane mode" and see what happens.

Yep, just tested that.  It doesn't work in Airplane mode (no data, no
wifi, no Bluetooth).  That's probably why Jasen reported in his reply
that response is slow: has to get a server to do the transcribing.

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#34150

On 09/12/2016 12:06 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> crankypuss wrote:
>
>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>> internet connection?  TIA.
>
> What about the keyboard included in Android?  I open the Memo app, state
> a new not, and the keyboard shows up.  In it is a microphone icon.  Tap
> on that and the Google voice input dialog appears.  When it is ready, I
> speak and the text shows up in the note.  I can tap it again to pause
> input and continue later.  It's probably the same voice-to-text feature
> that shows up when I do online searches; i.e., the mic icon in the
> keyboard.
>

It's been a couple years since I last tried that.  Just cranked it up 
and remember why. It's mortally slow and grossly inaccurate.  One word 
in ten isn't going to make it, though it did get "shit" right every time 
and censored "fuck" to "f***".  It's garbage imo, but thanks for the 
suggestion.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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#34152

On 2016-09-12 18:50, crankypuss wrote:
> On 09/12/2016 12:06 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> crankypuss wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>>> internet connection?  TIA.
>>
>> What about the keyboard included in Android?  I open the Memo app, state
>> a new not, and the keyboard shows up.  In it is a microphone icon.  Tap
>> on that and the Google voice input dialog appears.  When it is ready, I
>> speak and the text shows up in the note.  I can tap it again to pause
>> input and continue later.  It's probably the same voice-to-text feature
>> that shows up when I do online searches; i.e., the mic icon in the
>> keyboard.
>>
> 
> It's been a couple years since I last tried that.  Just cranked it up
> and remember why. It's mortally slow and grossly inaccurate.  One word
> in ten isn't going to make it, though it did get "shit" right every time
> and censored "fuck" to "f***".  It's garbage imo, but thanks for the
> suggestion.

I find it here very accurate. You can disable the censoring. I have
written with it complete emails in a phone, but you have to review the
misses. Often tapping on a word or group of words it may suggest
alternatives and often one of those is the correct one.

However, it tries to be clever and guess the language, automatically,
and fails 50% of the time at that. I had to disable one language.

The biggest issue for you is that it needs an internet connection. The
conversion is not done locally, but on a server somewhere, apparently.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#34166

crankypuss wrote:

> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
> internet connection?  TIA.

My aunt has done more research than I.  She said that all the [free]
apps [that she looked at] for voice-to-text transcription got mediocre
to bad reviews.  Even Nuance's own [Dragon] Anywhere app isn't that
great according to her.  Their app's description at Google's Play store
says it needs "view wi-fi connections" permissions.  Why would it need
that unless it needed to connnect out?  Well, it does have some cloud
features, so I don't know that the app needs wifi connectivity to only
do the voice-to-text transcription.  

The app's description at the Google Play store doesn't mention price (or
mention it is free) and no mention of in-app purchases or ads.  So I
can't tell if it is truly free (no ads as the cost) or if it is even
free.  One reviewer noted a subscription price of £15/month which seems
damn high. Nuance's own web site (http://tinyurl.com/z6v6kag) shows $0
for their Anywhere app.  When I click on their Buy Now button, yep, it
is subscriptionware.  $15/mo, $40/qtr, or $150/yr.  However, you never
mentioned "free" as a requirement.  The weekly subscription is shown as
$0 but that's probably for the duration of a trial period.  You could
test it to see if it meets your needs.  You also didn't mention your
Android version, and Nuance Anywhare says it requires Android 4.4 or
later (and iOS 8.1 or later).  I suspect this is a large-sized app so
you'll need to consider how much free memory you have.  They don't give
memory requirements on their web site for that app.

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#34183

On 09/13/2016 02:02 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> crankypuss wrote:
>
>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>> internet connection?  TIA.
>
> My aunt has done more research than I.  She said that all the [free]
> apps [that she looked at] for voice-to-text transcription got mediocre
> to bad reviews.  Even Nuance's own [Dragon] Anywhere app isn't that
> great according to her.  Their app's description at Google's Play store
> says it needs "view wi-fi connections" permissions.  Why would it need
> that unless it needed to connnect out?  Well, it does have some cloud
> features, so I don't know that the app needs wifi connectivity to only
> do the voice-to-text transcription.
>
> The app's description at the Google Play store doesn't mention price (or
> mention it is free) and no mention of in-app purchases or ads.  So I
> can't tell if it is truly free (no ads as the cost) or if it is even
> free.  One reviewer noted a subscription price of £15/month which seems
> damn high. Nuance's own web site (http://tinyurl.com/z6v6kag) shows $0
> for their Anywhere app.  When I click on their Buy Now button, yep, it
> is subscriptionware.  $15/mo, $40/qtr, or $150/yr.  However, you never
> mentioned "free" as a requirement.  The weekly subscription is shown as
> $0 but that's probably for the duration of a trial period.  You could
> test it to see if it meets your needs.

I already pay a goodly sum for shitty internet access, I'm not going to 
add another anchor to that boat: monthly fees absolutely will not fly 
with me.

> You also didn't mention your
> Android version, and Nuance Anywhare says it requires Android 4.4 or
> later (and iOS 8.1 or later).  I suspect this is a large-sized app so
> you'll need to consider how much free memory you have.  They don't give
> memory requirements on their web site for that app.
>
>

Who cares what version of Android it runs under?  I have two Android 
machines and don't recall their versions.  If I could find something I 
thought would actually be useful, maybe I'd buy one of those swell new 
Galaxy 7 things so I could be entertained by the fire while waiting for 
some crappy offline translation to text.

When there's nothing on the market fit to buy, I tend to get a little 
pissy about the whole modern circus, my bad, sorry.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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#34199

crankypuss wrote:

> On 09/13/2016 02:02 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> crankypuss wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>>> internet connection?  TIA.
>>
>> Nuance's own web site (http://tinyurl.com/z6v6kag) shows $0
>> for their Anywhere app.  When I click on their Buy Now button, yep, it
>> is subscriptionware.  $15/mo, $40/qtr, or $150/yr.  However, you never
>> mentioned "free" as a requirement.  The weekly subscription is shown as
>> $0 but that's probably for the duration of a trial period.  You could
>> test it to see if it meets your needs.
> 
> I already pay a goodly sum for shitty internet access, I'm not going to 
> add another anchor to that boat: monthly fees absolutely will not fly 
> with me.

Software vendors couldn't give a gnat's fart about how much you pay for
Internet access.  They aren't ISPs.  They write code.  Your incidental
costs are irrelevant, especially since you inquired about a product that
doesn't need Internet access.  For a local app that does local audio
crunching to convert to local text, Internet access is completely a
non-issue.

The gas station attendent doesn't care how much you pay for car
insurance, either.  Not relevant to their sale (of fuel).  Not relevant
to their product (fuel).

>> You also didn't mention your Android version, and Nuance Anywhare
>> says it requires Android 4.4 or later (and iOS 8.1 or later).  I
>> suspect this is a large-sized app so you'll need to consider how
>> much free memory you have.  They don't give memory requirements on
>> their web site for that app.
> 
> Who cares what version of Android it runs under?  

Ah c'mon, even noobs understand that software has minimal requirements
for support of it within the OS, and that things change with each
version of an OS (else every new version wouldn't be a new version since
it was the same as the prior version).  There is some feature of Android
4.4 that Nuance's software requires.  Same goes for ALL SOFTWARE.  You
might find some apps that require Android 2.2 but then, again, they
aren't going to run under every version of the OS because they obviously
make use of some feature available at a minimal version of the OS.  So
you DO care about the OS version because you DO care about using
software on THAT operating system.

In fact, some apps will list a range of versions of Android under which
they will run.  Google may decide to remove features from an OS that an
app relied up, so the app cannot run under a later version of Android.
For example, there are anti-spam apps that claim to not only block spam
calls but also spam texts.  However, I think it was Android 4.3 (maybe a
late sub-minor version of 4.2) that removed the ability of these apps
from looking at your texts or blocking them.  So the anti-spam app has
lost a feature because Google took it away.  Obviously the OS version is
important to you regardless of what software solution you might choose.

Memory constraints is another criteria that you haven't bothered to take
into account.  Oh, you don't care about that either, uh huh, because you
apparently are the only user of hardware that has infinite memory
capacity.

You need to establish your criteria regarding price (now and possibly
later and perhaps repeatedly) along with hardware limitations (again
typically constrained by budget).

> When there's nothing on the market fit to buy, I tend to get a little 
> pissy about the whole modern circus, my bad, sorry.

You just contradicted yourself.  Now you're saying you would buy
something if it was "fit".  Before you said you wouldn't *buy* anything.
Make up your mind.  Do you have a requirement that the app be free?  If
so, expect crappy quality or lots of in-app ads (or even rude popup ads
that appear outside the app when you don't think it is even running).
Will you pay for a solution?  If so, you have to establish criteria as
to what you can afford and how often.  You don't get a $150/yr program
for free unless you steal it - and this is not a pro-warez newsgroup.

First decide on your criteria: budget (now and later), hardware
constraints, and OS constraints.  You seem to want a blanket solution
that provides for free an expensive commercialware app without any
hardware limitations and will run under every version of Android that
has ever existed since 2003 and will ever exist hereafter. <rolls eyes>

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