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  Must Have Apps "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 08:31 +0000
    Re: Must Have Apps Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:15 +0100
      Re: Must Have Apps "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 10:14 +0000
        Re: Must Have Apps Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 11:44 +0100
          Re: Must Have Apps "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 11:15 +0000
        Re: Must Have Apps Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 15:56 +0100
          Re: Must Have Apps AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-26 09:22 -0700
          Re: Must Have Apps Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 08:05 +0100
            Re: Must Have Apps David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-08-27 09:24 +0100
          Re: Must Have Apps Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-27 13:09 +0100
            Re: Must Have Apps Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-08-27 23:54 +1000
              Re: Must Have Apps Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-28 14:54 +0100
                Google Keep (was: Re: Must Have Apps) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-08-29 01:32 +0200
                  Re: Google Keep (was: Re: Must Have Apps) Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-08-29 11:39 +0700
                    Re: Google Keep AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-29 09:53 -0700
                  Re: Google Keep (was: Re: Must Have Apps) dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2016-08-29 06:54 +0000
                    Re: Google Keep AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-29 09:54 -0700
                    Re: Google Keep (was: Re: Must Have Apps) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-08-30 05:47 +0200
                    Re: Google Keep (was: Must Have Apps) Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-30 18:47 +0100
                      Re: Google Keep The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 12:54 -0700
                        Re: Google Keep Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-08-30 21:15 +0100
                          Re: Google Keep The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 09:48 -0700
                            Re: Google Keep Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-08-31 20:07 +0100
                              Re: Google Keep The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 14:16 -0700
                                Re: Google Keep The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 14:30 -0700
                                  Re: Google Keep AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-31 18:36 -0700
                                    Re: Google Keep Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-08-31 21:57 -0400
                                      Re: Google Keep The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 22:13 -0700
                                Re: Google Keep nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-31 18:27 -0400
                            Re: Google Keep Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2016-09-01 14:33 +0200
                              Re: Google Keep Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-09-01 13:16 -0400
                        Re: Google Keep AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-30 14:19 -0700
          Re: Must Have Apps "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-08-27 14:48 +0200
    Re: Must Have Apps nospam@thanks.com - 2016-08-26 17:01 +0100
    Re: Must Have Apps Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-27 09:44 +0000
    Re: Must Have Apps "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-08-27 14:44 +0200
    Re: Must Have Apps "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-28 07:48 +0000
    Re: Must Have Apps Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-09-05 13:01 +0100

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#33718 — Re: Google Keep

The Real Bev wrote:

> I'm saving a 'grocery list' draft with my computer using
> Thunderbird.  It's not showing up at the gmail website

Are you using IMAP?

If no, the draft will only be local to Thunderbird.

If yes, you might want to alter the drafts folder in Thunderbird to be 
the same folder gmail uses (don't think I've used Thunderbird with 
gmail, but have had to alter names to match with other servers e.g. 
outlook.com)

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#33728 — Re: Google Keep

On 08/30/2016 01:15 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> I'm saving a 'grocery list' draft with my computer using
>> Thunderbird.  It's not showing up at the gmail website
>
> Are you using IMAP?

Yes.  Maybe stuff is different for linux.

> If no, the draft will only be local to Thunderbird.
>
> If yes, you might want to alter the drafts folder in Thunderbird to be
> the same folder gmail uses (don't think I've used Thunderbird with
> gmail, but have had to alter names to match with other servers e.g.
> outlook.com)

No idea what this means.  "Drafts" is "Drafts".


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Eat right. Stay fit. Die anyway.

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#33729 — Re: Google Keep

The Real Bev wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Are you using IMAP?
>
> Yes.  Maybe stuff is different for linux.

Shouldn't be.

> No idea what this means.  "Drafts" is "Drafts".

You'd like to think so wouldn't you?  And "Sent" would be "Sent" rather 
than "Sent Items" similar for Archives, Outbox, Deleted, Junk, etc, but 
some combinations of mail client and server will disagree about the 
names of some of these folders from time to time, maybe even what 
language the folder name is in.

But I've just looked at my thunderbird which talks to 5 different mail 
servers, and it doesn't appear that "Drafts" is one where they have 
disagreed.

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#33730 — Re: Google Keep

On 08/31/2016 12:07 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Are you using IMAP?
>>
>> Yes.  Maybe stuff is different for linux.

That particular account is implemented as BOTH POP and IMAP.  I'm going 
to try the same thing with an IMAP-only account...

> Shouldn't be.

You'd think, but oftentimes is is :-(

>> No idea what this means.  "Drafts" is "Drafts".
>
> You'd like to think so wouldn't you?  And "Sent" would be "Sent" rather
> than "Sent Items" similar for Archives, Outbox, Deleted, Junk, etc, but
> some combinations of mail client and server will disagree about the
> names of some of these folders from time to time, maybe even what
> language the folder name is in.
>
> But I've just looked at my thunderbird which talks to 5 different mail
> servers, and it doesn't appear that "Drafts" is one where they have
> disagreed.

If I write a draft with my computer at the website I can see it on my 
phone, but I HATE going to the website :-(


-- 
Cheers, Bev
=====================================================================
If violence isn't solving the problem, you're not using enough of it.

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#33731 — Re: Google Keep

On 08/31/2016 02:16 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 08/31/2016 12:07 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you using IMAP?
>>>
>>> Yes.  Maybe stuff is different for linux.
>
> That particular account is implemented as BOTH POP and IMAP.  I'm going
> to try the same thing with an IMAP-only account...

OK, that worked.  Unfortunately BlueMail interprets the CRs as CRCRs and 
ignores the tab characters :-(  I only use email on my phone when I'm 
going to be gone from home for a couple of days, so it's not worth 
putting back AND CONFIGURING K9 and I refuse to use the resident gmail 
app on principle -- I want to be able to only download mail for a single 
account when *I* want to do it ("push" is evil) and the gmail app 
refuses to allow that.

More and more I'm thinking I should just write the list on my computer 
and take a picture of it with my phone :-(

>> Shouldn't be.
>
> You'd think, but oftentimes is is :-(
>
>>> No idea what this means.  "Drafts" is "Drafts".
>>
>> You'd like to think so wouldn't you?  And "Sent" would be "Sent" rather
>> than "Sent Items" similar for Archives, Outbox, Deleted, Junk, etc, but
>> some combinations of mail client and server will disagree about the
>> names of some of these folders from time to time, maybe even what
>> language the folder name is in.
>>
>> But I've just looked at my thunderbird which talks to 5 different mail
>> servers, and it doesn't appear that "Drafts" is one where they have
>> disagreed.
>
> If I write a draft with my computer at the website I can see it on my
> phone, but I HATE going to the website :-(
-- 
Cheers, Bev
   If violence isn't solving the problem, you're not using enough of it.

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#33733 — Re: Google Keep

The Real Bev wrote:

> OK, that worked.  Unfortunately BlueMail interprets the CRs
> as CRCRs and ignores the tab characters :-(  I only use
> email on my phone when I'm going to be gone from home for a
> couple of days, so it's not worth putting back AND
> CONFIGURING K9 and I refuse to use the resident gmail app on
> principle -- I want to be able to only download mail for a
> single account when *I* want to do it ("push" is evil) and
> the gmail app refuses to allow that.

Dunno about your mail client but in K-9 Mail you can turn 
off background sync so there's no push. You manually do the 
new mail updates. Course then you also have to manually do 
the draft updates. Maybe your client has something similar.

In K-9: settings>global settings>network>background sync>never.

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#33734 — Re: Google Keep

On 31 Aug 2016, AL <noemail@none.com> wrote in comp.mobile.android: 

> Dunno about your mail client but in K-9 Mail you can turn off
> background sync so there's no push. 

You can do that with Bluemail, too. It's been explained to her
previously in great detail. She doesn't want to know. 

> You manually do the new mail updates. Course then you also have to
> manually do the draft updates. 

Or you can include Drafts with the manual check. Both K9 and
Bluemail can do that. 

> Maybe your client has something similar. 

It does. I believe the Gmail app can as well. 

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#33737 — Re: Google Keep

On 08/31/2016 06:57 PM, Nil wrote:
> On 31 Aug 2016, AL <noemail@none.com> wrote in comp.mobile.android:
>
>> Dunno about your mail client but in K-9 Mail you can turn off
>> background sync so there's no push.
>
> You can do that with Bluemail, too. It's been explained to her
> previously in great detail. She doesn't want to know.

Yeahyeahyeah.  I know that the Inbox downloaded, it was just the Drafts 
that I wanted.  Apparently the fact that I had both POP and IMAP enabled 
caused Drafts to not download.   The Drafts from the IMAP-only account 
downloaded properly.

>> You manually do the new mail updates. Course then you also have to
>> manually do the draft updates.
>
> Or you can include Drafts with the manual check. Both K9 and
> Bluemail can do that.
>
>> Maybe your client has something similar.
>
> It does. I believe the Gmail app can as well.

Last I looked, gmail was 'sync everything' or 'sync nothing and whine a 
lot'.  Maybe it's different now.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Todd Flanders' hobbies include being quiet on long rides,
    clapping to songs and diabetes.

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#33732 — Re: Google Keep

In article <nq7hfv$dej$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>> Are you using IMAP?
> >>
> >> Yes.  Maybe stuff is different for linux.
> 
> That particular account is implemented as BOTH POP and IMAP.  I'm going 
> to try the same thing with an IMAP-only account...

here we go again. you didn't learn anything from the other thread where
it was repeatedly explained to you.

using one does not affect the other.

> > Shouldn't be.
> 
> You'd think, but oftentimes is is :-(

very rarely, if ever.

> >> No idea what this means.  "Drafts" is "Drafts".
> >
> > You'd like to think so wouldn't you?  And "Sent" would be "Sent" rather
> > than "Sent Items" similar for Archives, Outbox, Deleted, Junk, etc, but
> > some combinations of mail client and server will disagree about the
> > names of some of these folders from time to time, maybe even what
> > language the folder name is in.
> >
> > But I've just looked at my thunderbird which talks to 5 different mail
> > servers, and it doesn't appear that "Drafts" is one where they have
> > disagreed.
> 
> If I write a draft with my computer at the website I can see it on my 
> phone, but I HATE going to the website :-(

then don't go to the website.

user error.

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#33741 — Re: Google Keep

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/30/2016 01:15 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> I'm saving a 'grocery list' draft with my computer using
>>> Thunderbird.  It's not showing up at the gmail website
>>
>> Are you using IMAP?
>
> Yes.  Maybe stuff is different for linux.

That is not an issue with Linux, but an issue with how you interface with
GMail.

>> If no, the draft will only be local to Thunderbird.
>>
>> If yes, you might want to alter the drafts folder in Thunderbird to be
>> the same folder gmail uses (don't think I've used Thunderbird with
>> gmail, but have had to alter names to match with other servers e.g.
>> outlook.com)
>
> No idea what this means.  "Drafts" is "Drafts".

Nope. If you are using the gmail web client (https://mail.google.com/),
then the draft will be stored where other GMail clients (another web
session on a different computer, you Android phone with GMail, ....)
can and will see it. If you use IMAP to talk to GMail, what happens with
your draft is at the mercy of your client. I'm not using Thunderbird,
but one possibility is that Thunderbird keeps drafts strictly local and
only send the data to gmail when actually _sending_ the email.

Kind regards,
           Alex.
-- 
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
 looks like work."                                      -- Thomas A. Edison

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#33742 — Re: Google Keep

On 01 Sep 2016, Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> 
wrote in comp.mobile.android: 

> Nope. If you are using the gmail web client 
> (https://mail.google.com/), then the draft will be stored where 
> other GMail clients (another web session on a different computer, 
> you Android phone with GMail, ....) can and will see it. If you 
> use IMAP to talk to GMail, what happens with your draft is at the 
> mercy of your client. I'm not using Thunderbird, but one 
> possibility is that Thunderbird keeps drafts strictly local and 
> only send the data to gmail when actually _sending_ the email. 

Thunderbird saves its drafts to the server by default, although it's
possible to configure it to save them locally. 

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#33719 — Re: Google Keep

The Real Bev wrote:

> Somebody mentioned just saving a grocery list email draft...
>
> OK, I'm saving a 'grocery list' draft with my computer using
> Thunderbird.  It's not showing up at the gmail website and I
> can't see it with my phone.

I'm not familiar with the mail side of TB though I've used 
the newsgroup side often. If you're using IMAP then it 
should work. However if you're set up as a POP account then no.

My various Android devices use K-9 mail (as IMAP)in which 
the system works fine. I just write an outgoing email (as a 
note) on any one of them and then hit the 'save as draft' 
menu button. It then shows up on all my other devices 
(including the website).

Some of my drafts are years old. My telephone list, address 
list, books read (so I don't accidentally buy one I read 
years ago and forgot about), all my passwords-well over 
50(encrypted but easily decrypted in my head), drip 
irrigation settings winter/summer, Gmail backup codes, 
birthdays, car/insurance/plate/vin/expire, etc etc etc...

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#33682

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:56:17 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:

> ES File Explorer: Useful for seeing what's where, and it also has a 
> built-in FTP server which I use a lot for copying files (e.g. 
> photographs) back and forth to my PC

I'm still using this too. Some consider it too bloated, but I think it
still has its use.

> GPS Status: Shows strength of GPS signal plus current position, speed, etc.

This one?

GPS Status & Toolbox
	MobiWIA - EclipSim

-- 
s|b

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#33664

On 26/08/2016 09:31, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I have a Lenovo Phab Plus, the model was made for the Chinese market but
> I got it (new) for £200 from eBay from an enterprising seller who seems
> to have shipped a load in to the UK.
>
> I have installed Facebook Messenger on it to keep in touch with
> daughter. Anything good or bad known about this app? In theory it works
> over the Internet so no charges.
>
> I have also installed Pushbullet which links my laptop and 'phone
> together so that I can send & receive texts from the laptop which is
> quite neat. Again I think it is free but if anybody knows different I'd
> like to know.
>
> I have used computers since the Commodore Vic 20 and the BBC Micro but
> since this 'phone is the first that is actually big enough for me to use
> comfortably I'd be interested by any recommendations for "must have"
> apps to make it even more useful/usable.
>
> My deal with BT gives me free WiFi pretty well anywhere in the UK so I
> have Internet access most of the time without using mobile data.
>
> Thanks.
>

"Here" is a must have ... off-line mapping of just about everywhere in 
the World - download the countries or regions that you need. Free!

MMTracker is excellent if you can "find" the 25k OS mapping

Others: Swiss army knife, my car locator, National rail, parkopedia, 
google translate, sheets, citymapper

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#33677

On 26 Aug 2016 08:31:36 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> I'd be interested by any recommendations for "must have" apps 
> to make it even more useful/usable.

All these are free and useful ... 

K9 mail (for additional mail accounts)
Optimizer (for optimizing your contacts lists)
Sideline (for a second phone number)
SMS Scheduler (for scheduling SMS texts)
ES File Explorer (for browsing the file system)
WiFi File Transfer (for wifi file transfer)
Jota Text Editor (for editing text files)
Redirect File Organizer (only the Xavier Tobin one)
Terminal (for accessing the file system via cmd line)
Orbot & Orfox (for anonymity on the web or VPN)
ScanLife & barcode scanner (for scanning codes)
Automatic Call Recorder (to record phone calls)
Easy Voice Recorder (for recording conversations)
VLC (for playing videos)
WiFi Analyzer (for analyzing the wifi)
OpenVPN (for virtual private networks)
Fritz WLAN (for looking at your local network)
OSMAnd~ (offline street maps sans a data connection)
Mapfactor Navigator (offline street maps sans data)
CoPilot (offline street maps sans a data connection0
US Topo Maps (offline topo maps USGS)
Backcountry Navigator (offline topo maps USGS)
App Ops Starter (setting permissions on apps)
App Backup & Restore (back up apps automatically to APK)
Nova Launcher (probably the best launcher out there)

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#33681

On 26 Aug 2016 08:31:36 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> I have used computers since the Commodore Vic 20 and the BBC Micro but 
> since this 'phone is the first that is actually big enough for me to use 
> comfortably I'd be interested by any recommendations for "must have" apps 
> to make it even more useful/usable.

Avast Mobile Security
Prey Anti Theft
QR Droid Private
QuickPic Gallery
VLC for Android
WhatsApp Messenger
WiFiScanner (bitbatzen)

-- 
s|b

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#33691

On 26/08/2016 in message <xn0ka7apdfm00e700p@news.individual.net> Jeff 
Gaines wrote:

[snipped]

Many thanks for all the replies :-)

All copied and pasted into a text document that I will work my way through.

Much appreciated.

-- 
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day.
Tomorrow, isn't looking good either.

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#33892

On 26/08/16 09:31, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I have a Lenovo Phab Plus, the model was made for the Chinese market but I got it (new) for £200 from eBay from an enterprising seller who seems to have shipped a load in to the UK.
>
> I have installed Facebook Messenger on it to keep in touch with daughter. Anything good or bad known about this app? In theory it works over the Internet so no charges.
>
> I have also installed Pushbullet which links my laptop and 'phone together so that I can send & receive texts from the laptop which is quite neat. Again I think it is free but if anybody knows different I'd like to know.
>
> I have used computers since the Commodore Vic 20 and the BBC Micro but since this 'phone is the first that is actually big enough for me to use comfortably I'd be interested by any recommendations for "must have" apps to make it even more useful/usable.
>
> My deal with BT gives me free WiFi pretty well anywhere in the UK so I have Internet access most of the time without using mobile data.
>
> Thanks.
>

Audio Manager Pro
    setup different audio profiles, with schedules, which allows you to control the level of the 5 audio channels by day/time.
    a widget allows cycling through all the profiles.
    There's a free version which, IIRC, is the same but without the schedule capability.

Power Toggles
    provides a widget which allows you to toggle various settings normally buried several layers deep in Settings:
    WiFi, mobile data, GPS, Blutooth etc.

OS Monitor
    Similar to Linux "top", or Windows Task Manager.
    See which pesky task/app. is eating your battery in the background and hopefully terminate it with extreme prejudice (unfortunately not all tasks can be terminated).

Highways England
    If your sat. nav. doesn't have traffic info.

PowerAmp unlocked
    the "best" music player.

All the BBC apps.

If you have Sky or BT TV then their related apps.

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