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Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap

Started byAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
First post2016-08-16 13:18 +0000
Last post2016-08-16 20:00 +0000
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  Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 13:18 +0000
    Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 09:18 -0700
      Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 13:10 -0500
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 18:15 +0000
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 13:41 -0500
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:34 +0000
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 20:59 +0000
                Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 15:10 -0700
                  Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:34 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 21:02 +0000
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 21:19 +0000
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:34 +0000
      Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:00 +0000
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 20:30 +0000
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:04 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 17:08 -0500
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
                Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 22:29 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 22:18 +0000
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 15:01 -0700
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 17:06 -0500
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 15:21 -0700
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 17:34 -0500
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
    Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:00 +0000

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#33442

FromAL <noemail@none.com>
Date2016-08-16 15:01 -0700
Message-ID<z2Msz.5$jo4.0@fx09.iad>
In reply to#33423
Aardvarks wrote:

> I only read and contribute to about three or four groups.
> How many do you contribute to?

Recently? Maybe 6. I've been frequenting Usenet since the 
80s so lots more over the years. Unfortunately most of my 
favorite groups have died.

> More than that and you don't have time in a day to do it well.

Lots of time when you're retired. Doing it well is another 
matter.

> My main goal was to skim a newsgroup for new messages so that I didn't have
> to go to the computer to figure out what my phone could tell me in a single
> tap.

I've never tried to post on my phone when I'm out. Too much 
of a hassle. Like many others I wait until I get home to a 
real keyboard. But I often read my groups on my phone when 
killing time. Google Groups makes it very easy with their 
'Favorites'. Once in Groups and one tap and I'm there. Damn, 
now I'm doing the tap dance thing...

> The main advantage is that the shortcuts are a single tap per newsgroup.
> 1. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.android
> 2. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.ipad
> 3. Tap - and you're reading misc.phone.mobile.iphone
> etc.

Wouldn't that be 2 taps? One to leave the current group for 
the shortcut screen and another on the shortcut to get to 
the next group.

> The goal is to never need to *type* anything. Just one tap.

What if the goal is to avoid a cluttered screen? What if the 
goal is simplicity? YMMV.



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#33445

FromElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-16 17:06 -0500
Message-ID<e1hh2eFc27U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#33442
AL <noemail@none.com> Wrote in message:
> Aardvarks wrote:
> 
>> I only read and contribute to about three or four groups.
>> How many do you contribute to?
> 
> Recently? Maybe 6. I've been frequenting Usenet since the 
> 80s so lots more over the years. Unfortunately most of my 
> favorite groups have died.
> 
Some of mine are still there but have been either taken over by
 trolls or the political bunch.

>> More than that and you don't have time in a day to do it well.
> 
> Lots of time when you're retired. Doing it well is another 
> matter.
>
Amen!!  Being retired opens up more time
 
>> My main goal was to skim a newsgroup for new messages so that I didn't have
>> to go to the computer to figure out what my phone could tell me in a single
>> tap.
> 
> I've never tried to post on my phone when I'm out. Too much 
> of a hassle. Like many others I wait until I get home to a 
> real keyboard. But I often read my groups on my phone when 
> killing time. Google Groups makes it very easy with their 
> 'Favorites'. Once in Groups and one tap and I'm there. Damn, 
> now I'm doing the tap dance thing...
>
I don't even look at usenet on the phone, don't want to have to
 break out the reading glasses!  I usually am on either the iPad
 Pro or the Pixel Chromebook, with some little time on a Nexus 9
 tablet.
 
>> The main advantage is that the shortcuts are a single tap per newsgroup.
>> 1. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.android
>> 2. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.ipad
>> 3. Tap - and you're reading misc.phone.mobile.iphone
>> etc.
> 
> Wouldn't that be 2 taps? One to leave the current group for 
> the shortcut screen and another on the shortcut to get to 
> the next group.
> 
>> The goal is to never need to *type* anything. Just one tap.
> 
> What if the goal is to avoid a cluttered screen? What if the 
> goal is simplicity? YMMV.
>
Then he'd put all those links in a folder and add a tap to each!!  :)

-- 
Elfin

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#33452

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<e1hhsvFjvkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#33445
ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
> I don't even look at usenet on the phone, don't want to have to
>  break out the reading glasses!  

Meh. The font size on iOS Usenet clients is adjustable making it perfectly
legible for just about anyone.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#33453

FromAL <noemail@none.com>
Date2016-08-16 15:21 -0700
Message-ID<OlMsz.15356$da5.8665@fx26.iad>
In reply to#33445
ElfinArc6 wrote:

> I don't even look at usenet on the phone, don't want to have to
>   break out the reading glasses!

Someday when you get old you will have trifocals like me and 
then you won't have to break out the reading glasses cause 
they will already be on your nose... ;)

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#33456

FromElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-16 17:34 -0500
Message-ID<e1hinpFpn9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#33453
AL <noemail@none.com> Wrote in message:
> ElfinArc6 wrote:
> 
>> I don't even look at usenet on the phone, don't want to have to
>>   break out the reading glasses!
> 
> Someday when you get old you will have trifocals like me and 
> then you won't have to break out the reading glasses cause 
> they will already be on your nose... ;)
> 
> 
LOL!!

After the cataract surgery my distance vision is wonderful, no
 glasses needed.  But up close and personal is a very different
 matter!!

-- 
Elfin

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#33451

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<np03ik$18r2$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#33442
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:01:08 -0700, AL wrote:

>> I only read and contribute to about three or four groups.
>> How many do you contribute to?
> 
> Recently? Maybe 6. I've been frequenting Usenet since the 
> 80s so lots more over the years. Unfortunately most of my 
> favorite groups have died.

Same with me on all counts.
 
>> More than that and you don't have time in a day to do it well.
> 
> Lots of time when you're retired. Doing it well is another 
> matter.

Heh heh ... we're both retired and in the same boat there...
 
>> My main goal was to skim a newsgroup for new messages so that I didn't have
>> to go to the computer to figure out what my phone could tell me in a single
>> tap.
> 
> I've never tried to post on my phone when I'm out. Too much 
> of a hassle. Like many others I wait until I get home to a 
> real keyboard. 

Yup. A real keyboard. 3D keys. I hate that bluetooth flat stuff.

> But I often read my groups on my phone when 
> killing time. Google Groups makes it very easy with their 
> 'Favorites'. Once in Groups and one tap and I'm there. Damn, 
> now I'm doing the tap dance thing...

I agree that there are more than one way to easily skim newsgroup posts.
I use the same method to skim discussion forums also.

For example, I just happened across an old review of mine for *offline* map
apps using one of my saved links in the discussions folder.
http://androidforums.com/threads/my-test-of-freeware-android-offline-gps-navigation-applications.806872/

 
>> The main advantage is that the shortcuts are a single tap per newsgroup.
>> 1. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.android
>> 2. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.ipad
>> 3. Tap - and you're reading misc.phone.mobile.iphone
>> etc.
> 
> Wouldn't that be 2 taps? One to leave the current group for 
> the shortcut screen and another on the shortcut to get to 
> the next group.

In effect, here's what I do in order to read two newsgroups and one forum
discussion group:

1. At the desktop, I tap on newgroup1 and read that newsgroup1.
2. I tap the home button (which brings me back to the desktop).
3. Then I tap on forum-discussion1 and read that forum discussion1.
4. I repeat step 2 above.
5. Finally I tap on newsgroup2 and read newsgroup2.

It's simple. Fast. Efficient. And extensible to more than just Usenet.
But it's not the only way of doing things.
 
>> The goal is to never need to *type* anything. Just one tap.
> 
> What if the goal is to avoid a cluttered screen? What if the 
> goal is simplicity? YMMV.

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#33424

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-08-16 20:00 +0000
Message-ID<novrcr$tbj$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#33410
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:18:23 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote:

> {Improvements always welcome.}

The main advantage of this method is that there is *zero* typing involved,
and, it's a single-tap (and then scrolling) to skim a newsgroup for new
messages.

One improvement on organization is to shorten the default name of the link

FROM: misc.phone.mobile.iphone - Google Groups
TO:   m.p.m.i (or just "iphone")

FROM: comp.mobile.android - Google Groups
TO:   c.m.a (or just "android")

FROM: comp.mobile.ipad - Google Groups
TO:   c.m.i (or just "ipad")

etc.

I now have a folder of these links for single-tap reading of newsgroups,
when/if I want them. Nothing here precludes using a bona-fide Usenet
newsgroup reader (which I also have).

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