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  Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 13:18 +0000
    Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 09:18 -0700
      Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 13:10 -0500
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 18:15 +0000
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 13:41 -0500
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:34 +0000
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 20:59 +0000
                Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 15:10 -0700
                  Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:34 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 21:02 +0000
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 21:19 +0000
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:34 +0000
      Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:00 +0000
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 20:30 +0000
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:04 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 17:08 -0500
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
                Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 22:29 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 22:18 +0000
        Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 15:01 -0700
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 17:06 -0500
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
            Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-16 15:21 -0700
              Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 17:34 -0500
          Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 22:20 +0000
    Re: Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 20:00 +0000

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#33410 — Hint for another way to read Usenet newsgroups in a single tap

Here is a simple hint for easily reading Usenet newsgroups with just 1 tap:
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZqcDqp.gif

Since there really is no decent Usenet newsgroup client for either Android
or iOS (IMHO), one hint for simply *reading* any number of Usenet
newsgroups is to save a shortcut to each google archive to that newsgroup
on your desktop.

You can easily put a shortcut to each Usenet newsgroup you care about into
a Usenet folder and when you tap on that shortcut, up comes the very latest
news, as archived by Google, in your favorite browser.

You can probably just as easily save a link to the newsgroup on any modern
browser, but the one I just tested was Firefox on Android:

Here's how I created a link to misc.phone.mobile.iphone for reading:
http://i.cubeupload.com/P1uR2N.gif

Point Firefox to http://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone 
http://i.cubeupload.com/P1uR2N.gif

Tap:
a. "Main menu" ( http://i.cubeupload.com/P1uR2N.gif )
b. "Page" ( http://i.cubeupload.com/Wr8HCT.gif )
c. "Add to Home Screen" ( http://i.cubeupload.com/429YQR.gif )

That creates a desktop shortcut which you can organize as you see fit:
http://i.cubeupload.com/H5R41I.gif

You can put the Usenet newsgroups you frequently read in a folder, e.g., 
http://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone
http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android
http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad
etc.

Forevermore, it's one tap to read any specific Usenet newsgroup.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZqcDqp.gif

NOTE: You can also post using this method, but, almost none of us use GG to
post content so I don't recommend posting.

{Improvements always welcome.}

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#33416

Aardvarks wrote:

> Since there really is no decent Usenet newsgroup client for either Android
> or iOS (IMHO),
> one hint for simply *reading* any number of Usenet
> newsgroups is to save a shortcut to each google archive to that newsgroup
> on your desktop.

You're recommending using a Google product???  8-O

If you're *reading* many groups your method would sure make 
a lot of shortcuts. Why not just go to Google Groups direct 
and put your newsgroups on their 'Favorites' list? (You 
don't have to join a group to do that.) That way only one 
shortcut, to your favorite browser.

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#33417

AL <noemail@none.com> Wrote in message:
> Aardvarks wrote:
> 
>> Since there really is no decent Usenet newsgroup client for either Android
>> or iOS (IMHO),
>> one hint for simply *reading* any number of Usenet
>> newsgroups is to save a shortcut to each google archive to that newsgroup
>> on your desktop.
> 
> You're recommending using a Google product???  8-O
> 
> If you're *reading* many groups your method would sure make 
> a lot of shortcuts. Why not just go to Google Groups direct 
> and put your newsgroups on their 'Favorites' list? (You 
> don't have to join a group to do that.) That way only one 
> shortcut, to your favorite browser.
> 
I would argue with his premise that there are no good usenet
 clients on either iOS or Android.  While there are none that are
 as powerful and flexible as some on desktop OS's, there are
 certainly at least 2 on each mobile OS that are very
 functional.

iOS : Newstap, YRNewsHD
Android: Nntp News Rearder, Groundhog.  Note there are many more
 on Android, those are the only two I've actually
 used.

-- 
Elfin

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#33418

On 2016-08-16, ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> wrote:
> AL <noemail@none.com> Wrote in message:
>> Aardvarks wrote:
>> 
>>> Since there really is no decent Usenet newsgroup client for either
>>> Android or iOS (IMHO), one hint for simply *reading* any number of
>>> Usenet newsgroups is to save a shortcut to each google archive to
>>> that newsgroup on your desktop.
>> 
>> You're recommending using a Google product???  8-O
>> 
>> If you're *reading* many groups your method would sure make a lot of
>> shortcuts. Why not just go to Google Groups direct and put your
>> newsgroups on their 'Favorites' list? (You don't have to join a group
>> to do that.) That way only one shortcut, to your favorite browser.
>> 
> I would argue with his premise that there are no good usenet clients
> on either iOS or Android.  While there are none that are as powerful
> and flexible as some on desktop OS's, there are certainly at least 2
> on each mobile OS that are very functional.
>
> iOS : Newstap, YRNewsHD Android: Nntp News Rearder, Groundhog.  Note
> there are many more on Android, those are the only two I've actually
> used.

Yep. And they are arguably more functional than Google Groups.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#33419

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> Wrote in message:
> On 2016-08-16, ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> wrote:
>> AL <noemail@none.com> Wrote in message:
>>> Aardvarks wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Since there really is no decent Usenet newsgroup client for either
>>>> Android or iOS (IMHO), one hint for simply *reading* any number of
>>>> Usenet newsgroups is to save a shortcut to each google archive to
>>>> that newsgroup on your desktop.
>>> 
>>> You're recommending using a Google product???  8-O
>>> 
>>> If you're *reading* many groups your method would sure make a lot of
>>> shortcuts. Why not just go to Google Groups direct and put your
>>> newsgroups on their 'Favorites' list? (You don't have to join a group
>>> to do that.) That way only one shortcut, to your favorite browser.
>>> 
>> I would argue with his premise that there are no good usenet clients
>> on either iOS or Android.  While there are none that are as powerful
>> and flexible as some on desktop OS's, there are certainly at least 2
>> on each mobile OS that are very functional.
>>
>> iOS : Newstap, YRNewsHD Android: Nntp News Rearder, Groundhog.  Note
>> there are many more on Android, those are the only two I've actually
>> used.
> 
> Yep. And they are arguably more functional than Google Groups.
> 
Not just 'arguably'!!  :)

YRNewsHD for iOS is a fairly simplistic usenet client, but it
 works quite well for text only groups.  Missing some features I'd
 like to see.
Newstap has been the 'go to' usenet client for iOS for a very long
 time.  Very functional with nearly all the bells and whistles
 you'd want.

On Android, the Nntp News Reader is a lot different to set up, but
 when it is, it works very well.  Much better than Groundhog
 IMO.

Compared to GG they are all MUCH better!

-- 
Elfin

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#33430

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:41:44 -0500 (CDT), ElfinArc6 wrote:

>> Yep. And they are arguably more functional than Google Groups.
>> 
> Not just 'arguably'!!  :)

Is it just me, or was it *obvious* that this hint was about sheer
efficiency and simplicity, and *not* about functionality?

Wasn't it clear, from the start, that if you really wanted *functionality*,
you wouldn't be using a mobile Usenet client in the first place?

Could I have made the main point more obvious?

This hint is about *simplicity* & *efficiency*.
One tap. That's it. 

One tap and you're reading any given Usenet newsgroup.

> YRNewsHD for iOS is a fairly simplistic usenet client, but it
>  works quite well for text only groups.  Missing some features I'd
>  like to see.
> Newstap has been the 'go to' usenet client for iOS for a very long
>  time.  Very functional with nearly all the bells and whistles
>  you'd want.
> 
> On Android, the Nntp News Reader is a lot different to set up, but
>  when it is, it works very well.  Much better than Groundhog
>  IMO.
> 
> Compared to GG they are all MUCH better!

First off, we're only talking about *reading* Usenet newgroups.
And, we're talking only about the most *efficient* (single tap) methods.

Given that's what we're talking about, I would argue with you that, for
*reading* Usenet newsgroups *efficiently*, that a Usenet client on a mobile
device is not necessarily better than viewing the latest Google Groups'
archives.

And, I would argue that if you really want *functionality* in a Usenet
client, then you wouldn't be using a mobile client in the first place
(e.g., my Usenet clients have pre and post-processing scripts that run on
every incoming and outgoing message).

Besides, even if you had functionality on a typical mobile device, you're
still severely restricted by the lack of a 3D keyboard, which you "can"
have on a mobile device, but very few people do.

So, please remember that this post is about single-tap *efficiency*.
It's not about functionality (which doesn't exist on mobile devices).

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#33435

Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:41:44 -0500 (CDT), ElfinArc6 wrote:
> 
>>> Yep. And they are arguably more functional than Google Groups.
>>> 
>> Not just 'arguably'!!  :)
> 
> if you really wanted *functionality*,
> you wouldn't be using a mobile Usenet client in the first place?

No. And it doesn't change the fact that Google Groups is far less
functional than native mobile Usenet clients, either.

> This hint is about *simplicity* & *efficiency*.
> One tap. That's it. 
>
> One tap and you're reading any given Usenet newsgroup.

As opposed to a whopping *two* taps with a mobile client. Not to mention
you have to exit and tap another shortcut to read other groups with your
"solution". YUGE savings there.

>> Compared to GG they are all MUCH better!
> 
> First off, we're only talking about *reading* Usenet newgroups.

Native clients are still way better since they have more reading and other
functionality. 

> I would argue with you that, for
> *reading* Usenet newsgroups *efficiently*, that a Usenet client on a mobile
> device is not necessarily better than viewing the latest Google Groups'
> archives.

Wrong. Not only do native mobile clients tend to display content in a more
readable manner better suited to mobile devices than Google Groups, but
they also offer way more associated functionality.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#33447

Jolly Roger wrote:

> Google Groups is far less
> functional than native mobile Usenet clients

If we're talking    *reading only*    on a phone screen then 
I disagree. At least as compared to the Android clients I've 
used. YMMV.

> Not only do native mobile clients tend to display content in a more
> readable manner better suited to mobile devices than Google Groups,

Have you tried GG recently on an Android phone? Course this 
was originally cross posted so perhaps you're talking about 
iOS devices. I have no experience in that department.

> but
> they also offer way more associated functionality.

Does your app sync your groups across devices? Get a new 
phone and it's already set up for you. No install, no server 
setup, no get all groups hassle, no subscribe hassle, etc. 
Does your app tell you the time/date of the last post 
without opening the thread? How about total posts? Saves 
time when exploring new groups.

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#33450

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:10:32 -0700, AL wrote:

> Does your app sync your groups across devices?

Thank you for adding value.

You have an interesting point that this browser link method of reading
Usenet newsgroups and forum discussion groups automatically catches up to
the latest posts on any device it's used on.

While it's not the only way to do things, it's nice to have this method in
our repertoire.

The iOS-only guy Jolly Roger only knows of one-button-mouse solutions that
Apple Marketing tells him, so, having a second way of doing things just
confuses and irritates him. Most of the iOS users are similar, but some are
intelligent enough to handle two-button-mouse solutions.

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#33431

On 16 Aug 2016 18:15:39 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Yep. And they are arguably more functional than Google Groups.

That you instantly argue against simplicity shows me exactly how your mind
works - and - since you're one of the simplest of iOS users - I study your
responses the most - in order to figure out how iOS users think.

Every time you post, I learn more about iOS users, because you have
absolutely zero reading-comprehension skills - so - you always post how
*your* brain works, irrespective of the actual topic.

*In this case, you inherently argue against efficiency.*

It's actually perfect that you entirely miss the main premise every time,
because, to you, it's just a "general thought" where your innate thinking
process controls all your output.

You see - you post ... you don't ever *think*.

Please keep in mind the main premise of this hint.
[HINT: The premise of this hint was *not* functionality.]

If you needed functionality, you wouldn't be using a mobile-device Usenet
client in the first place.

*This hint was about efficiency.*

One tap, and you're reading the newsgroup of your choice.

No typing. No searching. No switching newsgroups. Just one tap.
It's fast. It's simple. And it's efficient.

But I never said nor ever implied that a single-tap browser shortcut was as
powerful as a Usenet client, and, the fact that you even argue against
simplicity just makes it clear *exactly* how *your* brain works.

That you instantly argue against simplicity shows me exactly how your mind
works, and, since you're one of the simplest of all iOS users, I love when
you post because I learn how the average iOS user thinks from studying you.

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#33436

Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
> On 16 Aug 2016 18:15:39 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>> Yep. And they are arguably more functional than Google Groups.
> 
> That you instantly argue against simplicity shows me exactly how your mind
> works - and - since you're one of the simplest of iOS users

Predictably you resort to insults because you have nothing substantive to
offer. Troll on.

[lame troll ramblings omitted]

> One tap, and you're reading the newsgroup of your choice.

As opposed to two taps with more functionality using a mobile client.

> No typing. 

No typing is needed with my mobile client.

> No searching. 

Not needed either.

> No switching newsgroups. 

It's one tap to switch to a news group in a mobile client.

> Just one tap.

Then to switch to another news group you'd have to exit and tap another
shortcut which is actually more work than it is with a mobile client which
requires a single tap.

[more lame troll ramblings omitted]

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#33437

On 16 Aug 2016 21:02:44 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> As opposed to two taps with more functionality using a mobile client.

The browser-shortcut method works for discussion forums also.

That means you can organize a "discussion" folder where you can save
browser links either to Usenet newgroups or discussion forums alike.

For example, on Android:
http://androidforums.com/forums/android-applications.4/

For example, on iOS:
https://forums.developer.apple.com/community/safari-and-web/ios-web-apps

Fast. Simple. Efficient.

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#33432

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:10:14 -0500 (CDT), ElfinArc6 wrote:

> I would argue with his premise that there are no good usenet
>  clients on either iOS or Android.  While there are none that are
>  as powerful and flexible as some on desktop OS's, there are
>  certainly at least 2 on each mobile OS that are very
>  functional.
> 
> iOS : Newstap, YRNewsHD
> Android: Nntp News Rearder, Groundhog.  Note there are many more
>  on Android, those are the only two I've actually
>  used.

I agree. I've used them all, on both iOS and Android.

They're not as feature rich as the desktop clients (e.g., my newsreader
does both pre and post processing with scripts, which just isn't in the
cards for the mobile Usenet clients.

Plus simply *typing* is a chore on a mobile device. 

So that's why I only set up this method for reading (where, for
emergencies, I also have the other Usenet clients installed on both Android
& on iOS).

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#33423

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:18:59 -0700, AL wrote:

> You're recommending using a Google product???  

That's a good point, but I don't even have a GOogle ID, nor do I ever log
into any Google product, so, it's just like using Google Search.

You don't need to log in, and I'm always on VPN, so, Google has an IP
address somewhere in the Crimea or Somalia for the connection. :)

> If you're *reading* many groups your method would sure make 
> a lot of shortcuts.

I only read and contribute to about three or four groups.
How many do you contribute to?

More than that and you don't have time in a day to do it well.

> Why not just go to Google Groups direct 
> and put your newsgroups on their 'Favorites' list? (You 
> don't have to join a group to do that.) That way only one 
> shortcut, to your favorite browser.

That is an improvement that some people may prefer, so thanks for bringing
that up.

My main goal was to skim a newsgroup for new messages so that I didn't have
to go to the computer to figure out what my phone could tell me in a single
tap.

The main advantage is that the shortcuts are a single tap per newsgroup.
1. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.android
2. Tap - and you're reading comp.mobile.ipad
3. Tap - and you're reading misc.phone.mobile.iphone
etc.

The goal is to never need to *type* anything. Just one tap.

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#33429

Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
> 
> My main goal was to skim a newsgroup for new messages so that I didn't have
> to go to the computer to figure out what my phone could tell me in a single
> tap.

There's no need for a computer or Google Groups in a web browser when you
have a mobile Usenet client.

> The goal is to never need to *type* anything. Just one tap.

...and no need to type anything either.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#33444

On 16 Aug 2016 20:30:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> There's no need for a computer or Google Groups in a web browser when you
> have a mobile Usenet client.

The method shown works for both discussion groups and for Usenet 
newsgroups.

For iOS users, this explains how to create the desktop shortcuts to any 
Usenet newsgroup or forum discussion group using Safari:
http://www.howtogeek.com/196087/how-to-add-websites-to-the-home-screen-on-any-smartphone-or-tablet/

1. Launch the Safari browser on Apple’s iOS 
2. Navigate to the website or web page you want to add to your home screen
3. Tap the Share button on the browser’s toolbar — that’s the rectangle 
with an arrow pointing upward. It’s on the bar at the top of the screen on 
an iPad, and on the bar at the bottom of the screen on an iPhone or iPod 
Touch. 
4. Tap the Add to Home Screen icon in the Share menu.
5. You’ll be prompted to name the shortcut before tapping the Add button. 
6. The shortcut can be dragged around and placed in your discussions 
folder.

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#33446

Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> Wrote in message:
> On 16 Aug 2016 20:30:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>> There's no need for a computer or Google Groups in a web browser when you
>> have a mobile Usenet client.
> 
> The method shown works for both discussion groups and for Usenet 
> newsgroups.
> 
> For iOS users, this explains how to create the desktop shortcuts to any 
> Usenet newsgroup or forum discussion group using Safari:
> http://www.howtogeek.com/196087/how-to-add-websites-to-the-home-screen-on-any-smartphone-or-tablet/
> 
> 1. Launch the Safari browser on Apple¡¦s iOS 
> 2. Navigate to the website or web page you want to add to your home scrBigeen
> 3. Tap the Share button on the browser¡¦s toolbar ¡X that¡¦s the rectangle 
> with an arrow pointing upward. It¡¦s on the bar at the top of the screen on 
> an iPad, and on the bar at the bottom of the screen on an iPhone or iPod 
> Touch. 
> 4. Tap the Add to Home Screen icon in the Share menu.
> 5. You¡¦ll be prompted to name the shortcut before tapping the Add button. 
> 6. The shortcut can be dragged around and placed in your discussions 
> folder.
> 
Big whoop!  No need to do it on either Android or iOS, it doesn't
 accomplish anything but does allow for playing with the gear vice
 actually using it for something somewhat productive. 
 

Typical for a dweeb!

-- 
Elfin

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#33449

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:08:19 -0500 (CDT), ElfinArc6 wrote:

> Big whoop!  No need to do it on either Android or iOS, it doesn't
>  accomplish anything but does allow for playing with the gear vice
>  actually using it for something somewhat productive. 
>  
> 
> Typical for a dweeb!

It's interesting that the iOS users can't handle multiple ways of doing
things.

It's like you're all stuck in a one-button-mouse world.

You deprecate any solution that Apple Marketing didn't tell you to use.

You can't handle ideas. 
You can only follow one-button-mouse directions.

I love when you post - because I learn more from people like you about how
the average iOS users' think - than I learn from guys like nospam and
savageduck (who are more complex than you are).

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#33455

Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:08:19 -0500 (CDT), ElfinArc6 wrote:
> 
>> Big whoop!  No need to do it on either Android or iOS, it doesn't
>> accomplish anything but does allow for playing with the gear vice
>> actually using it for something somewhat productive. 
>> 
>> Typical for a dweeb!
> 
> It's interesting that the iOS users can't handle multiple ways of doing
> things.

More insults indicating you have nothing. Troll on.

> It's like you're all stuck in a one-button-mouse world.
> 
> You deprecate any solution that Apple Marketing didn't tell you to use.

That statement is pure idiocy considering it was *Apple* who added the Add
to Home Screen feature... 

[further insults and trollish ranting omitted]

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#33448

Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
> On 16 Aug 2016 20:30:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>> There's no need for a computer or Google Groups in a web browser when you
>> have a mobile Usenet client.
> 
> The method shown works for both discussion groups and for Usenet 
> newsgroups.
> 
> For iOS users, this explains how to create the desktop shortcuts

*YAWN* We've known how to create browser shortcuts on iOS for a long, long
time. It has been discussed here many times in the past.

Whether a shortcut to the Google Groups website is simpler or faster than
using a native mobile Usenet client is debatable at best. And there is no
disputing a mobile Usenet client is *far* more functional and better suited
to a mobile device than the Google Groups website.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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