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  What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 15:02 -0400
    Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 12:56 -0700
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 16:01 -0400
        Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 13:56 -0700
          Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:16 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 23:30 +0200
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 18:58 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 20:25 -0700
              Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 23:42 -0400
              Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 01:13 -0400
                Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 01:21 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:29 +0200
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 01:39 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:44 +0200
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:34 +0000
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 09:50 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:45 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 13:57 -0400
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-26 11:14 -0700
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:30 -0400
                                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-26 11:51 -0700
                                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:55 -0400
                                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-26 19:52 +0000
                                      Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:45 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-26 18:50 +0000
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:55 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 02:08 -0400
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-31 03:32 -0400
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 11:12 -0400
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:36 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 22:45 +0200
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 23:25 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-07-26 17:42 +0100
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 13:04 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:48 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-26 18:30 +0000
                Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 22:59 -0700
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 02:40 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 05:09 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 09:50 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:50 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 13:57 -0400
                Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 05:02 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 09:50 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-07-27 01:19 +1000
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 11:24 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:55 -0700
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 12:44 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 13:18 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 11:51 -0700
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:55 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 15:49 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 15:55 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 08:59 -0700
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-27 12:26 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-27 12:52 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-03 23:57 +0100
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:06 -0700
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-27 11:02 +0100
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:11 -0700
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-27 12:26 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-27 16:58 +0000
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-28 10:32 +0100
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:58 -0700
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-28 11:07 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-28 17:43 +0100
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 20:55 -0700
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-29 12:37 +0100
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-28 13:35 -0400
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-28 13:38 -0400
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 01:55 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-31 02:12 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 00:14 -0700
    Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 22:58 +0200
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-07-26 00:24 +0200
        Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 18:35 -0400
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:16 +0200
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-07-26 22:43 +0200
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 17:11 -0400
    Re: What's your favorite email app? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-26 00:10 -0500
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:23 +0200
        Re: What's your favorite email app? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-26 00:32 -0500
          Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 23:01 -0700
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:50 +0200
              Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:49 -0700
                Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 22:26 +0200
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:04 -0700
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 21:45 +0200
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-27 19:55 +0000
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 20:15 -0700
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-28 19:04 +0000
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-27 17:15 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 20:19 -0700
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:23 +0200
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:48 +0200
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 02:03 -0400
        Re: What's your favorite email app? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:38 +0000
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 13:12 -0400
        Re: What's your favorite email app? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-26 04:58 -0500

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#32795

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:50:28 -0400, nospam wrote:

> you also snipped to alter
> context.

I snipped to eliminate the superfluous. Big difference. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32798

In article <1t2d9qyn2ku$.coyarqwzxeor$.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp
<mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:

> 
> > you also snipped to alter
> > context.
> 
> I snipped to eliminate the superfluous. Big difference. Cheers, -- tlvp

nope. you snipped to alter context.

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#32760

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 01:13:35 -0400, Nil wrote:

>  POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
> retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
> ASAP and store it locally.

POP3 is suitable also if you use multiple computers to retrieve your mail
and you *do not* "remove your email from the server ASAP ... ." :-) .

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32778

In article <ge8y65filx1f$.xpwvde7o8tpj$.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp
<mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:

> 
> >  POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
> > retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
> > ASAP and store it locally.
> 
> POP3 is suitable also if you use multiple computers to retrieve your mail
> and you *do not* "remove your email from the server ASAP ... ." :-) .

definitely not.

if you're using multiple computers, imap is the only correct choice.

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#32779

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>In article <ge8y65filx1f$.xpwvde7o8tpj$.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp
><mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>
>> 
>> >  POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
>> > retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
>> > ASAP and store it locally.
>> 
>> POP3 is suitable also if you use multiple computers to retrieve your mail
>> and you *do not* "remove your email from the server ASAP ... ." :-) .
>
>definitely not.
>
>if you're using multiple computers, imap is the only correct choice.

I use Thunderbird and POP on my main computer which is also my
traveling computer. Occasionally I want to read email on my phone or
another computer so I use gMail's web interface. Can you explain why
that is not "correct"?

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#32780

In article <6rvepblh9affqqpm9k9i2qt7qob48t0khp@4ax.com>, Gordon Levi
<gordon@address.invalid> wrote:

> >> 
> >> >  POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
> >> > retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
> >> > ASAP and store it locally.
> >> 
> >> POP3 is suitable also if you use multiple computers to retrieve your mail
> >> and you *do not* "remove your email from the server ASAP ... ." :-) .
> >
> >definitely not.
> >
> >if you're using multiple computers, imap is the only correct choice.
> 
> I use Thunderbird and POP on my main computer which is also my
> traveling computer. Occasionally I want to read email on my phone or
> another computer so I use gMail's web interface. Can you explain why
> that is not "correct"?

because imap does everything pop can do and a whole lot more.

imap is designed for multiple systems. pop was not. 

pop is obsolete.

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#32785

On 07/26/2016 02:02 AM, tlvp wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 01:13:35 -0400, Nil wrote:
>
>>  POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to
>> retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server
>> ASAP and store it locally.
>
> POP3 is suitable also if you use multiple computers to retrieve your mail
> and you *do not* "remove your email from the server ASAP ... ." :-) .

BUT (at least with gmail) if it's been read once you can't download it 
to another device UNLESS you disable POP and then enable it again.  You 
will then download ALL the mail still on the server.  A monumental 
nuisance.

If I'm going away for a few days I try to remember to delete all the 
mail on the gmail server.  Then I can get mail on the phone and still 
put it on my computer using the above procedure.  Sometimes I've 
forgotten to delete all the mail, which doth cause me to rend my garment :-(

It would be nice if accounts could be converted from POP to IMAP, but 
apparently they can't.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "It's too bad stupidity isn't painful." - A. S. LaVey

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#32787

In article <nn815j$8je$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>  POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to
> >> retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server
> >> ASAP and store it locally.
> >
> > POP3 is suitable also if you use multiple computers to retrieve your mail
> > and you *do not* "remove your email from the server ASAP ... ." :-) .
> 
> BUT (at least with gmail) if it's been read once you can't download it 
> to another device UNLESS you disable POP and then enable it again.  You 
> will then download ALL the mail still on the server.  A monumental 
> nuisance.

the nuisance is that you keep trying to use pop.

set it to imap and your problems go away. 

> If I'm going away for a few days I try to remember to delete all the 
> mail on the gmail server.  Then I can get mail on the phone and still 
> put it on my computer using the above procedure.  Sometimes I've 
> forgotten to delete all the mail, which doth cause me to rend my garment :-(

talk about make things much harder than they need to be.

> It would be nice if accounts could be converted from POP to IMAP, but 
> apparently they can't.

of course it can. 

pop and imap is how the mail is accessed. the account remains the same.

you're very confused.

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#32791

On 26 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> BUT (at least with gmail) if it's been read once you can't
> download it to another device UNLESS you disable POP and then
> enable it again.  You will then download ALL the mail still on the
> server.  A monumental nuisance.

Then why do you keep doing it that way?

> It would be nice if accounts could be converted from POP to IMAP,
> but apparently they can't.

As has been mentioned several times in this thread, accounts themselves 
are not dependent on the protocol/method used to access the mailbox. 
The concept of "converting an account from POP to IMAP" makes no sense. 
It doesn't work that way. You seem to be laboring under several 
misconceptions.

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#32803

On 07/26/2016 10:18 AM, Nil wrote:
> On 26 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
> comp.mobile.android:
>
>> BUT (at least with gmail) if it's been read once you can't
>> download it to another device UNLESS you disable POP and then
>> enable it again.  You will then download ALL the mail still on the
>> server.  A monumental nuisance.
>
> Then why do you keep doing it that way?
>
>> It would be nice if accounts could be converted from POP to IMAP,
>> but apparently they can't.
>
> As has been mentioned several times in this thread, accounts themselves
> are not dependent on the protocol/method used to access the mailbox.
> The concept of "converting an account from POP to IMAP" makes no sense.
> It doesn't work that way. You seem to be laboring under several
> misconceptions.

I'm only going by what google said a couple of years ago.  Bite me.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your
    informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."
                                                  - Harlan Ellison

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#32806

In article <nn8bf8$f3b$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> BUT (at least with gmail) if it's been read once you can't
> >> download it to another device UNLESS you disable POP and then
> >> enable it again.  You will then download ALL the mail still on the
> >> server.  A monumental nuisance.
> >
> > Then why do you keep doing it that way?
> >
> >> It would be nice if accounts could be converted from POP to IMAP,
> >> but apparently they can't.
> >
> > As has been mentioned several times in this thread, accounts themselves
> > are not dependent on the protocol/method used to access the mailbox.
> > The concept of "converting an account from POP to IMAP" makes no sense.
> > It doesn't work that way. You seem to be laboring under several
> > misconceptions.
> 
> I'm only going by what google said a couple of years ago.  

no you aren't. 

google never said what you claim they did because it's *never* been
true.

you're blaming your problems on everyone else.

> Bite me.

eww.

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#32812

On 26 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> On 07/26/2016 10:18 AM, Nil wrote:
>>
>> As has been mentioned several times in this thread, accounts
>> themselves are not dependent on the protocol/method used to
>> access the mailbox. The concept of "converting an account from
>> POP to IMAP" makes no sense. It doesn't work that way. You seem
>> to be laboring under several misconceptions.
> 
> I'm only going by what google said a couple of years ago.  Bite
> me. 

Admit it - you really have no interest in understanding how this stuff 
works, do you?

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#32814

In article <XnsA651A1086B866nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> >>
> >> As has been mentioned several times in this thread, accounts
> >> themselves are not dependent on the protocol/method used to
> >> access the mailbox. The concept of "converting an account from
> >> POP to IMAP" makes no sense. It doesn't work that way. You seem
> >> to be laboring under several misconceptions.
> > 
> > I'm only going by what google said a couple of years ago.  Bite
> > me. 
> 
> Admit it - you really have no interest in understanding how this stuff 
> works, do you?

bingo.

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#32838

On 07/26/2016 12:49 PM, Nil wrote:
> On 26 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
> comp.mobile.android:
>
>> On 07/26/2016 10:18 AM, Nil wrote:
>>>
>>> As has been mentioned several times in this thread, accounts
>>> themselves are not dependent on the protocol/method used to
>>> access the mailbox. The concept of "converting an account from
>>> POP to IMAP" makes no sense. It doesn't work that way. You seem
>>> to be laboring under several misconceptions.
>>
>> I'm only going by what google said a couple of years ago.  Bite
>> me.
>
> Admit it - you really have no interest in understanding how this stuff
> works, do you?

Only as much as will enable me to do what I want.  How is this different 
from anyone else?  If I hit a wall I either devise a workaround or 
decide that the grapes were sour anyway.  I am, unfortunately, 
intellectually lazy.  Fortunately I'm smart enough to get by anyway.

When I opened my first google mail accounts it was necessary to make a 
choice between POP and IMAP.  I chose POP because I had no need for 
multiple-device access and that's what I'd used with my previous ISPs 
because that's all that was available.  At one point I was interested in 
converting the accounts and, according to what I read in the gmail 
'help' information, I couldn't do that.

Are you telling me that I can convert gmail accounts from POP to IMAP now?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"If the Eskimos have a thousand different words for "snow," does this
  mean the French have a thousand different words for "surrender?"

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#32843

In article <nnaloq$hsl$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>
> >>> As has been mentioned several times in this thread, accounts
> >>> themselves are not dependent on the protocol/method used to
> >>> access the mailbox. The concept of "converting an account from
> >>> POP to IMAP" makes no sense. It doesn't work that way. You seem
> >>> to be laboring under several misconceptions.
> >>
> >> I'm only going by what google said a couple of years ago.  Bite
> >> me.
> >
> > Admit it - you really have no interest in understanding how this stuff
> > works, do you?
> 
> Only as much as will enable me to do what I want.  How is this different 
> from anyone else?  If I hit a wall I either devise a workaround or 
> decide that the grapes were sour anyway.  I am, unfortunately, 
> intellectually lazy.  Fortunately I'm smart enough to get by anyway.
> 
> When I opened my first google mail accounts it was necessary to make a 
> choice between POP and IMAP.  I chose POP because I had no need for 
> multiple-device access and that's what I'd used with my previous ISPs 
> because that's all that was available.  At one point I was interested in 
> converting the accounts and, according to what I read in the gmail 
> 'help' information, I couldn't do that.

i don't know what you supposedly read but it did not say what you claim
it did.

there is no conversion. you just enable imap. done. 

then configure your mail app to use imap rather than pop.

> Are you telling me that I can convert gmail accounts from POP to IMAP now?

again, there is no conversion.

you can even use *both* pop and imap. for instance, use pop from your
desktop and imap from your phone. it's not a good idea and a bitch to
manage, but it's possible.

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#32845

On 27 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> When I opened my first google mail accounts it was necessary to
> make a choice between POP and IMAP.  I chose POP because I had no
> need for multiple-device access and that's what I'd used with my
> previous ISPs because that's all that was available.  At one point
> I was interested in converting the accounts and, according to what
> I read in the gmail 'help' information, I couldn't do that.

You misinterpreted Google's help. It's always been the same ever since 
they offered IMAP access. It's a feature you can turn on or not. There 
has never been any "conversion".

> Are you telling me that I can convert gmail accounts from POP to
> IMAP now? 

No. You can turn on the switch on Google to allow access to your 
mailbox via POP or IMAP or both. Nothing is "converted". Nigel Wade  
provided a link with concise and accurate instructions on how to turn 
those features on.

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#33086

In article <nnaloq$hsl$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote:
> Are you telling me that I can convert gmail accounts from POP to
> IMAP now?

I suspect the issue here is not so much what Google does or lets you do 
as what your mail client does/clients do.

The Google mail servers will let you use either POP or IMAP, and 
whichever you use you access the same database of messages. Google is 
(as you've noticed) a bit unusual in that it has a notion of which 
messages on the server have previously been read, and doesn't show 
those messages to a POP client (unless you disable POP and re-enable it 
again).

Your mail client, though, may well store the messages it downloads in a 
different way depending on whether it used POP or IMAP to talk to the 
server. POP has no notion of mail subfolders, for example, so the 
client may well use a flat database for POP servers and a 
folder-structured one for IMAP. This would make it non-trivial to 
switch from POP to IMAP, and quite hard to convert from IMAP to POP -- 
what do you do with all those folders that no longer have any meaning, 
for example?

That's why changing from POP to IMAP collection (or vice versa) on the 
same server may require that delete the service from your mail client 
and create a new one using the other protocol.

-- 
Cheers,
 Daniel.
 

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#33087

On 08/03/2016 03:57 PM, Daniel James wrote:
> In article <nnaloq$hsl$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote:
>> Are you telling me that I can convert gmail accounts from POP to
>> IMAP now?
>
> I suspect the issue here is not so much what Google does or lets you do
> as what your mail client does/clients do.
>
> The Google mail servers will let you use either POP or IMAP, and
> whichever you use you access the same database of messages. Google is
> (as you've noticed) a bit unusual in that it has a notion of which
> messages on the server have previously been read, and doesn't show
> those messages to a POP client (unless you disable POP and re-enable it
> again).

I enabled both POP and IMAP on a couple of gmail accounts.  I can then 
read email on my phone via IMAP and then save it to my computer via POP. 
  I set Thunderbird (computer) to leave mail on the server for 5 days 
unless I delete it, so unless I leave home for more than 5 days (in 
which case I can change it to10 days or whatever) I can eat my cake and 
save it too!

> Your mail client, though, may well store the messages it downloads in a
> different way depending on whether it used POP or IMAP to talk to the
> server. POP has no notion of mail subfolders, for example, so the
> client may well use a flat database for POP servers and a
> folder-structured one for IMAP. This would make it non-trivial to
> switch from POP to IMAP, and quite hard to convert from IMAP to POP --
> what do you do with all those folders that no longer have any meaning,
> for example?

I'm leaving the POP accounts on my computer just the way they are.  My 
structure isn't all that tree-like, just a lot of separate "folders" for 
storing mail.

> That's why changing from POP to IMAP collection (or vice versa) on the
> same server may require that delete the service from your mail client
> and create a new one using the other protocol.

Just adding IMAP capability at the gmail site seems to have done the trick.

-- 
Cheers,
Bev
===============================================
Last night I played a blank tape at full blast.
The mime next door went nuts!

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#32835

On 26/07/16 16:55, The Real Bev wrote:
> It would be nice if accounts could be converted from POP to IMAP, but apparently they can't.

??

The process is pretty straightforward.

Google "gmail imap". Follow the links to this page:
https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en

follow the instructions on that page.

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#32841

On 07/27/2016 03:02 AM, Nigel Wade wrote:
> On 26/07/16 16:55, The Real Bev wrote:
>> It would be nice if accounts could be converted from POP to IMAP, but apparently they can't.
>
> ??
>
> The process is pretty straightforward.
>
> Google "gmail imap". Follow the links to this page:
> https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en
>
> follow the instructions on that page.

Those were for opening an account, not converting an existing one 
without loss.  I hunted around for a while just in case you had posted 
the wrong link, but couldn't find anything.

Thanks anyway.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
     The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese.

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