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Anybody here who still pays for a landline

Started byThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
First post2016-07-19 19:11 -0700
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  Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:11 -0700
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 22:16 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 03:22 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 03:11 -0500
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:31 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:05 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 12:36 -0500
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:28 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 19:24 -0500
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 13:58 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-08-19 01:27 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:13 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:09 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:32 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 18:35 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 13:03 -0500
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 +0200
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 00:26 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:36 +0200
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 17:46 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-20 09:03 +0100
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 04:16 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:52 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:11 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:32 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:41 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-21 07:09 +0200
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Tim <timothybil@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 09:09 -0500
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 12:46 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:23 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:51 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:09 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:23 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 07:47 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:42 -0400
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-23 11:42 +0100
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:28 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:59 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-22 19:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 00:30 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-23 04:00 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-23 06:07 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:17 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 08:13 -0700
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:23 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 19:24 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 20:14 -0700
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:29 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-26 09:30 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:38 -0700
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-26 17:58 +0100
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:17 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 15:23 -0400
                                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:30 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 08:46 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:12 -0600
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:27 -0700
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:40 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 16:35 -0400
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 19:38 -0400
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 20:21 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-24 22:07 -0400
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 22:11 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:35 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:16 -0700
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 23:48 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 20:55 -0700
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:22 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:27 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:38 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:34 -0600
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:41 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 14:03 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:30 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:02 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:49 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:40 +0200
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:53 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:53 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:43 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:13 -0700
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:15 -0400
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 12:24 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:42 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:58 +0000
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 14:03 -0700
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 15:27 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 16:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:31 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:45 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 20:01 -0700
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 00:15 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 04:04 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:17 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:49 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:51 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:53 +0000
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-23 23:38 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-25 07:32 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 10:25 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-07-20 07:04 -0500
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:16 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:09 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-20 17:29 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 07:45 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-21 10:41 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-21 09:13 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 13:59 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:26 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:28 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> - 2016-07-20 13:41 +0000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:32 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-07-21 02:58 +1000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 22:38 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400

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#32558

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-07-22 03:44 -0400
Message-ID<tr3fk6fakv2w.1o10ppqtkb21m.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#32375
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:13:58 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> As far as I'm concerned, faxing is dead technology, and I haven't done
> it for years. Just curious, what do you use it for?

Insurance companies (and medical services) believe that fax is "more
secure" than PDF attachments to emails, hence won't accept claims (or send
diagnostic results) except via fax (at least, the ones I deal with). YMMV.

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32715

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2016-07-25 17:53 +0000
Message-ID<dvn205Fp0duU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32558
tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:13:58 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
> 
> > As far as I'm concerned, faxing is dead technology, and I haven't done
> > it for years. Just curious, what do you use it for?
> 
> Insurance companies (and medical services) believe that fax is "more
> secure" than PDF attachments to emails, hence won't accept claims (or send
> diagnostic results) except via fax (at least, the ones I deal with). YMMV.

  That just shows their ignorance/cluelessness/stupidity, because there
is no way to tell if the document has been tampered with after signing,
especially if the 'fax machine' is a computer (instead of a dedicated
fax machine).

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#32720

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
Message-ID<250720161507102328%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32715
In article <dvn205Fp0duU1@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> > 
> > > As far as I'm concerned, faxing is dead technology, and I haven't done
> > > it for years. Just curious, what do you use it for?
> > 
> > Insurance companies (and medical services) believe that fax is "more
> > secure" than PDF attachments to emails, hence won't accept claims (or send
> > diagnostic results) except via fax (at least, the ones I deal with). YMMV.
> 
>   That just shows their ignorance/cluelessness/stupidity, because there
> is no way to tell if the document has been tampered with after signing,
> especially if the 'fax machine' is a computer (instead of a dedicated
> fax machine).

it doesn't matter why. if they say fax only then it's fax only and no
amount of trying to educate them is going to change anything.

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#32333

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
Message-ID<nmnapg$bg6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32296
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...NOT part of your cable service?

Yup. I need to in order to get broadband.

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#32350

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
Message-ID<bgpuob1uletag4ljm66s0cckkolr535tkc@4ax.com>
In reply to#32296
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:11:22 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>...NOT part of your cable service?

I prefer the better quality of voice calls on a landline than you
often get on a mobile.

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#32359

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Message-ID<200720160954223875%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32350
In article <bgpuob1uletag4ljm66s0cckkolr535tkc@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >...NOT part of your cable service?
> 
> I prefer the better quality of voice calls on a landline than you
> often get on a mobile.

it's actually better on mobile now, with hd voice.

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#32662

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2016-07-23 23:38 +0100
Message-ID<psq7pb5fa424qv94d5mqn6c5vbsp3v8du5@4ax.com>
In reply to#32359
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:54:22 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <bgpuob1uletag4ljm66s0cckkolr535tkc@4ax.com>, Chris in
>Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> >...NOT part of your cable service?
>> 
>> I prefer the better quality of voice calls on a landline than you
>> often get on a mobile.
>
>it's actually better on mobile now, with hd voice.

Not where I live it isn't. The mobile networks are way overloaded and
at busy times the quality is so bad the conversation is almost
unintelligible.

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#32671

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
Message-ID<240720161116199599%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32662
In article <psq7pb5fa424qv94d5mqn6c5vbsp3v8du5@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> I prefer the better quality of voice calls on a landline than you
> >> often get on a mobile.
> >
> >it's actually better on mobile now, with hd voice.
> 
> Not where I live it isn't. The mobile networks are way overloaded and
> at busy times the quality is so bad the conversation is almost
> unintelligible.

you're almost certainly not using hd voice.

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#32704

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2016-07-25 07:32 +0100
Message-ID<cdcbpbdi7rf0kk2n4und522rt8hd8fohj3@4ax.com>
In reply to#32671
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 11:16:19 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <psq7pb5fa424qv94d5mqn6c5vbsp3v8du5@4ax.com>, Chris in
>Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I prefer the better quality of voice calls on a landline than you
>> >> often get on a mobile.
>> >
>> >it's actually better on mobile now, with hd voice.
>> 
>> Not where I live it isn't. The mobile networks are way overloaded and
>> at busy times the quality is so bad the conversation is almost
>> unintelligible.
>
>you're almost certainly not using hd voice.

The networks here don't support it. So to go back to where we started,
I use a landline because the quality of mobile calls is unacceptably
poor.

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#32709

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-25 10:25 -0400
Message-ID<250720161025318353%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32704
In article <cdcbpbdi7rf0kk2n4und522rt8hd8fohj3@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> >> I prefer the better quality of voice calls on a landline than you
> >> >> often get on a mobile.
> >> >
> >> >it's actually better on mobile now, with hd voice.
> >> 
> >> Not where I live it isn't. The mobile networks are way overloaded and
> >> at busy times the quality is so bad the conversation is almost
> >> unintelligible.
> >
> >you're almost certainly not using hd voice.
> 
> The networks here don't support it. 

that's my point.

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#32352

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2016-07-20 07:04 -0500
Message-ID<tt6dnXjP1OlR9RLKnZ2dnUU7-IXNnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#32296
On 7/19/2016 9:11 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> ...NOT part of your cable service?

Who has cable? Not I. <GRIN> As far as TV it doesn't offer any 
programming of interest that I already get for free "over the air".

As for VOIP, I've yet to see any provider run ads that I don't 
consider fraudulent - the cost of a broadband internet connection 
is ignored and the mere fact that an internet connection is 
required is hidden in the fine print which at times is white 
characters of a light background.

I would not use either cell phone or VOIP as my only home phone 
service because I need reliable 911 access.

P.S.If you haven't noticed, I *AM* opinionated ;/

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#32360

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Message-ID<200720160954223915%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32352
In article <tt6dnXjP1OlR9RLKnZ2dnUU7-IXNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Richard
Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> As for VOIP, I've yet to see any provider run ads that I don't 
> consider fraudulent - the cost of a broadband internet connection 
> is ignored and the mere fact that an internet connection is 
> required is hidden in the fine print which at times is white 
> characters of a light background.

it's not ignored. however, they don't explicitly spell it out because
it's obvious that internet is required.

> I would not use either cell phone or VOIP as my only home phone 
> service because I need reliable 911 access.

e911 works perfectly fine with voip but nothing is 100%, not even pots.

> P.S.If you haven't noticed, I *AM* opinionated ;/

and misinformed.

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#32376

FromKen Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
Date2016-07-20 08:16 -0700
Message-ID<na5vobl1ah9sikj04d5a69sq9kh7a1mpbt@4ax.com>
In reply to#32352
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 07:04:27 -0500, Richard Owlett
<rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:


>I would not use either cell phone or VOIP as my only home phone 
>service because I need reliable 911 access.

Some VoIP providers provide 911 service. For example, see here:
http://www.phonepower.com/911.aspx

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#32381

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
Message-ID<200720161144169498%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32376
In article <na5vobl1ah9sikj04d5a69sq9kh7a1mpbt@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
<Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

> 
> >I would not use either cell phone or VOIP as my only home phone 
> >service because I need reliable 911 access.
> 
> Some VoIP providers provide 911 service. For example, see here:
> http://www.phonepower.com/911.aspx

not just some, but all voip providers in the usa are *required* by law
to provide e911. if they're based elsewhere, it may be optional (not
always).

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#32412

FromKen Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
Date2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
Message-ID<2hfvob5dqn9b6mv1ma42p54mhalrqhj9qe@4ax.com>
In reply to#32381
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:44:16 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <na5vobl1ah9sikj04d5a69sq9kh7a1mpbt@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
><Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> >I would not use either cell phone or VOIP as my only home phone 
>> >service because I need reliable 911 access.
>> 
>> Some VoIP providers provide 911 service. For example, see here:
>> http://www.phonepower.com/911.aspx
>
>not just some, but all voip providers in the usa are *required* by law
>to provide e911.


Thank you. I hadn't realized that.


> if they're based elsewhere, it may be optional (not
>always).

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#32388

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-20 09:09 -0700
Message-ID<nmo7mt$bgj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32352
On 07/20/2016 05:04 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 7/19/2016 9:11 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>
> Who has cable? Not I. <GRIN> As far as TV it doesn't offer any
> programming of interest that I already get for free "over the air".

Free TV sucks.  Paying for it is out of the question.

> As for VOIP, I've yet to see any provider run ads that I don't
> consider fraudulent - the cost of a broadband internet connection
> is ignored and the mere fact that an internet connection is
> required is hidden in the fine print which at times is white
> characters of a light background.
>
> I would not use either cell phone or VOIP as my only home phone
> service because I need reliable 911 access.

I registered my address with Ooma for 911 purposes.  Not sure about the 
cell, but the odds of having an emergency where that would be a problem 
are so minuscule I'm not going to worry about it.

> P.S.If you haven't noticed, I *AM* opinionated ;/

Who isn't?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala,
     it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet."           -- Anon.

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#32393

FromDavid Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 17:29 +0100
Message-ID<nmo8tt$fqe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32388
On 20/07/2016 17:09, The Real Bev wrote:
[]
> Free TV sucks.  Paying for it is out of the question.
[]

Oh to live in the land of the free!  Fortunately in the UK free TV is 
not at all bad, at least at the moment.  And you can get the programs on 
Android with the BBC's iPlayer.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#32397

FromPAS <abc@doremi.net>
Date2016-07-20 12:44 -0400
Message-ID<nmo9ps$img$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32393
On 7/20/2016 12:29 PM, David Taylor wrote:
> On 20/07/2016 17:09, The Real Bev wrote:
> []
>> Free TV sucks.  Paying for it is out of the question.
> []
>
> Oh to live in the land of the free!  Fortunately in the UK free TV is 
> not at all bad, at least at the moment.  And you can get the programs 
> on Android with the BBC's iPlayer.
>
In the USA, we pay to see that free programming you watch - and it's 
worth it.

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#32472

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-21 07:45 +0000
Message-ID<nmpujn$am6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32397
PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:
> On 7/20/2016 12:29 PM, David Taylor wrote:
>> On 20/07/2016 17:09, The Real Bev wrote:
>> []
>>> Free TV sucks.  Paying for it is out of the question.
>> []
>> 
>> Oh to live in the land of the free!  Fortunately in the UK free TV is 
>> not at all bad, at least at the moment.  And you can get the programs 
>> on Android with the BBC's iPlayer.
>> 
> In the USA, we pay to see that free programming you watch - and it's 
> worth it.

So do we in the UK. It's called a tv licence. It's £145 a year.

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#32482

FromDavid Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid>
Date2016-07-21 10:41 +0100
Message-ID<nmq5d7$vaf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32472
On 21/07/2016 08:45, Chris wrote:
> PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:
>> On 7/20/2016 12:29 PM, David Taylor wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2016 17:09, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> []
>>>> Free TV sucks.  Paying for it is out of the question.
>>> []
>>>
>>> Oh to live in the land of the free!  Fortunately in the UK free TV is
>>> not at all bad, at least at the moment.  And you can get the programs
>>> on Android with the BBC's iPlayer.
>>>
>> In the USA, we pay to see that free programming you watch - and it's
>> worth it.
>
> So do we in the UK. It's called a tv licence. It's £145 a year.

.. and you need that licence /in addition/ to paying for Pay-TV (e.g. 
Sky, BT etc. etc.).  There are those who choose not to pay, of course. 
When you buy a TV the shop has to send your name and address to the 
licensing authority here.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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