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  Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:11 -0700
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 22:16 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 03:22 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 03:11 -0500
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:31 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:05 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 12:36 -0500
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:28 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 19:24 -0500
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 13:58 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-08-19 01:27 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:13 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:09 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:32 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 18:35 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 13:03 -0500
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 +0200
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 00:26 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:36 +0200
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 17:46 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-20 09:03 +0100
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 04:16 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:52 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:11 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:32 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:41 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-21 07:09 +0200
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Tim <timothybil@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 09:09 -0500
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 12:46 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:23 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:51 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:09 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:23 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 07:47 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:42 -0400
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-23 11:42 +0100
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:28 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:59 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-22 19:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 00:30 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-23 04:00 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-23 06:07 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:17 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 08:13 -0700
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:23 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 19:24 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 20:14 -0700
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:29 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-26 09:30 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:38 -0700
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-26 17:58 +0100
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:17 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 15:23 -0400
                                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:30 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 08:46 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:12 -0600
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:27 -0700
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:40 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 16:35 -0400
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 19:38 -0400
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 20:21 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-24 22:07 -0400
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 22:11 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:35 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:16 -0700
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 23:48 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 20:55 -0700
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:22 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:27 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:38 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:34 -0600
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:41 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 14:03 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:30 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:02 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:49 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:40 +0200
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:53 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:53 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:43 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:13 -0700
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:15 -0400
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 12:24 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:42 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:58 +0000
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 14:03 -0700
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 15:27 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 16:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:31 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:45 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 20:01 -0700
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 00:15 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 04:04 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:17 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:49 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:51 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:53 +0000
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-23 23:38 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-25 07:32 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 10:25 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-07-20 07:04 -0500
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:16 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:09 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-20 17:29 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 07:45 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-21 10:41 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-21 09:13 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 13:59 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:26 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:28 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> - 2016-07-20 13:41 +0000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:32 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-07-21 02:58 +1000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 22:38 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400

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#32296 — Anybody here who still pays for a landline

...NOT part of your cable service?

I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
$90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!

Carry on.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
*************************************************
Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench.

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#32297

In article <nmmmkb$q60$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...NOT part of your cable service?
> 
> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!

there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
proprietary box either.

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#32331

nospam wrote on 7/19/2016 10:16 PM:
> In article <nmmmkb$q60$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>> 
>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
> 
> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
> proprietary box either.

Such as?

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#32337

Alek wrote:

> nospam wrote on 7/19/2016 10:16 PM:
>> In article <nmmmkb$q60$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>>> 
>>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
>>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
>>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
>>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
>>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
>>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
>>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
>> 
>> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
>> proprietary box either.
> 
> Such as?

MagicJack
$35 for 1 year subscription    = $2.92 per month
$99.95 for 5 year subscription = $1.67 per month

I had them back when you had to install their customized softphone on
your computer to dial your calls.  I didn't like that setup, plus they
would auto-update their software which defeated some of my tweaks.  Now
they have a dongle that plugs into the router: Ethernet to router, RJ-11
jack to phone, USB to A/C power adapter.  Nothing installed on your
computer.  I've read where some folks will use MagicJack with their
tablets so they can make calls using their tablet.

However, as cheap as VOIP services are, you still have to pay for an
Internet provider so remember to add [a portion of] that cost when
deciding to leave the old POTS service.

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#32349

VanguardLH wrote on 7/20/2016 4:11 AM:
> Alek wrote:
> 
>> nospam wrote on 7/19/2016 10:16 PM:
>>> In article <nmmmkb$q60$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
>>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>>>> 
>>>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
>>>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
>>>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
>>>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
>>>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
>>>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
>>>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
>>> 
>>> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
>>> proprietary box either.
>> 
>> Such as?
> 
> MagicJack
> $35 for 1 year subscription    = $2.92 per month
> $99.95 for 5 year subscription = $1.67 per month
> 
> I had them back when you had to install their customized softphone on
> your computer to dial your calls.  I didn't like that setup, plus they
> would auto-update their software which defeated some of my tweaks.  Now
> they have a dongle that plugs into the router: Ethernet to router, RJ-11
> jack to phone, USB to A/C power adapter.  Nothing installed on your
> computer.  I've read where some folks will use MagicJack with their
> tablets so they can make calls using their tablet.
> 
> However, as cheap as VOIP services are, you still have to pay for an
> Internet provider so remember to add [a portion of] that cost when
> deciding to leave the old POTS service.

My concern is that when we get a storm that knocks out cell service and
therefore the Internet. The landline has stayed up during all such
storms so we do not lose contact with the outside world.

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#32387

On 07/20/2016 04:31 AM, Alek wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote on 7/20/2016 4:11 AM:
>> Alek wrote:
>>
>>> nospam wrote on 7/19/2016 10:16 PM:
>>>> In article <nmmmkb$q60$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
>>>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the
>>>>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device,
>>>>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of
>>>>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy
>>>>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it
>>>>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in
>>>>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
>>>>
>>>> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
>>>> proprietary box either.
>>>
>>> Such as?
>>
>> MagicJack
>> $35 for 1 year subscription    = $2.92 per month
>> $99.95 for 5 year subscription = $1.67 per month
>>
>> I had them back when you had to install their customized softphone on
>> your computer to dial your calls.  I didn't like that setup, plus they
>> would auto-update their software which defeated some of my tweaks.  Now
>> they have a dongle that plugs into the router: Ethernet to router, RJ-11
>> jack to phone, USB to A/C power adapter.  Nothing installed on your
>> computer.  I've read where some folks will use MagicJack with their
>> tablets so they can make calls using their tablet.
>>
>> However, as cheap as VOIP services are, you still have to pay for an
>> Internet provider so remember to add [a portion of] that cost when
>> deciding to leave the old POTS service.

Doesn't everybody already pay for an IP?  Well, maybe not the homeless, 
who probably don't have POTS anyway.

> My concern is that when we get a storm that knocks out cell service and
> therefore the Internet. The landline has stayed up during all such
> storms so we do not lose contact with the outside world.

Our cable goes out every once in a while, as does the electricity.  I 
can use the cell to call to report it, but that's generally a waste of 
time because they already know about the problem.


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala,
     it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet."           -- Anon.

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#32390

In article <nmo7fr$ao9$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> However, as cheap as VOIP services are, you still have to pay for an
> >> Internet provider so remember to add [a portion of] that cost when
> >> deciding to leave the old POTS service.
> 
> Doesn't everybody already pay for an IP? 

pretty much

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#32408

Alek wrote:

> My concern is that when we get a storm that knocks out cell service and
> therefore the Internet. The landline has stayed up during all such
> storms so we do not lose contact with the outside world.

Telcos are required to provide their own battery backup at each
substation.  The telco is provided their own power on their twisted pair
(POTS) lines, not your power company.  So when you have a power outage
for whatever reason, the telco still has their battery power but
eventually that will deplete.  I don't know what are the requirements
for capacity regarding how long telcos must provide their own power.

Many cable modems come with a built-in battery.  It probably only keeps
up the voice service (VOIP line) during a power outage since the battery
is too small to keep the entire cable modem powered for very long.  The
internal battery is only good for 4-8 hours of standby time, and even
less if you actually use the phone.  I use a UPS on my cable modem so
Internet and voice stay up during a power outage but it's a battery so
it will eventually deplete.

Having a landline used to make sense as a backup in case of a power
outage (that didn't last longer than the telco's battery capacity).  You
would still have a usuable phone during a power outage.  Nowadays most
computer users have mobile phones; i.e., if you have a computer then
there is a good chance you also have a cell phone.  Cell towers have
their own battery backup, just like the old POTS telcos.  So cell phones
continue working during a power outage.  

http://www.njslom.org/cell-towers-fcc-ruling.html
Like a lot of blogs, the author was too lazy to bother adding a
timestamp to his article.  The gov't doc to which he refers is dated
back in 2007.

http://wirelessestimator.com/content/articles/?pagename=Cell%20Tower%20Backup%20Power

Considering you can get cell phone service for pretty cheap (e.g.,
Tracfone) or even free if you quality (many, maybe all, cell phone
providers carry Lifeline service although sometime under a different
name), it seems unlikely that someone with a computer and a landline
does not also have a cell phone.  Well, if they have a cell phone then
they can dump the landline (POTS) as a backup phone service in case of a
power outage.

Do you not have a cell phone?  You don't even need a cell phone provider
to use one to dial 911.  You can get any cell phone (often found for
just $5 during sales or at a thrift shop) and never bother to buy a cell
phone service but you can still dial 911 for emergencies.  I have one
tossed in my car (an oldie Tracfone although I have no Tracfone service)
just for 911 calls in case my own cell phone is dead or not with me.  I
keep around my old defunct cell phones (flip or bar phones) just to have
them somewhere for 911 calls.  All cell phone carriers (at least in the
USA per FCC ruling) are required to provide 911 service whether you have
a contract with them or not.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/911-wireless-services
"The FCC's basic 911 rules require wireless service providers to
transmit all 911 calls to a PSAP, regardless of whether the caller
subscribes to the provider's service or not."

At $100 per year for about 1200 minutes at Tracfone (400 minute card,
triple minutes cell phone, plus often you can get a bonus of more
minutes), a cell phone costs only $8.33 per month.  That is a hell of
lot cheaper (in my area) for POTS service where they claim the cost is
$17/month but with all the added taxes and charges the actual cost is
$26/month.  Plus I get to use the cell phone in more places than stuck
to copper wires at one location (home).  Of course, I don't use that
many minutes so I always end up rolling them over.  When I quit using
Tracfone, I had rolled over around 4000 minutes which thankfully I was
able to transfer to my aunt's account so they didn't just vaporize.

If you cannot afford a cell phone and qualify under federal guidelines
for low income status, you can get both a cell phone along with service
(talk and text only, no data) for free or very cheap; see
https://www.fcc.gov/general/lifeline-program-low-income-consumers.  Look
for a cell phone provider that includes Lifeline service.  One is
Assurance <something> that uses the Verizon network.  Another is
Safelink (operated by Tracfone).  If all you want is emergency calls
during a power outage, any cell phone will do that even without a
service contract.  Don't know where you (Alek) are to know if the
Lifeline or 911 requirement are available in your area.  Other countries
will have differing emergency and financial programs available (or maybe
not at all).

If you have landline (POTS) phone service, you already have more than
sufficient funds to replace it with cell phone service.

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#32453

VanguardLH wrote on 7/20/2016 1:36 PM:
> Alek wrote:
> 
>> My concern is that when we get a storm that knocks out cell service and
>> therefore the Internet. The landline has stayed up during all such
>> storms so we do not lose contact with the outside world.
> 
> I use a UPS on my cable modem so
> Internet and voice stay up during a power outage but it's a battery so
> it will eventually deplete.

I'm having a 12KW emergency generator installed this week.

> Having a landline used to make sense as a backup in case of a power
> outage (that didn't last longer than the telco's battery capacity).  You
> would still have a usuable phone during a power outage.  Nowadays most
> computer users have mobile phones; i.e., if you have a computer then
> there is a good chance you also have a cell phone.  Cell towers have
> their own battery backup, just like the old POTS telcos.  So cell phones
> continue working during a power outage.  

During Hurricane Sandy, cell phone towers went out and stayed out for I
don't remember how long. POTS stayed up the entire time. My kids live
100s of miles away and needed the reassurance of our voices.

Yes, we have cell phones.

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#32462

Alek wrote:

> I'm having a 12KW emergency generator installed this week.

There is usually a delay between the power outage and when the
fuel-powered generator kicks in, assuming automatic startup.  You still
might want a UPS on your computer, monitor, and cable/voice modem.  

If you use VOIP service, make sure you have a NON-cordless phone at
home.  The generator will probably be hooked into only the essential
circuits of your home, like for fridge, furnace, etc and NOT for an
electric range or microwave.  12KW isn't really that huge.  Lots bigger
than most home UPS units but appliances can suck up a lot of juice,
especially if you leave live the air conditioner(s).  They're great as
long as you wire them to critical circuits.

> During Hurricane Sandy, cell phone towers went out and stayed out for I
> don't remember how long. POTS stayed up the entire time. My kids live
> 100s of miles away and needed the reassurance of our voices.
> 
> Yes, we have cell phones.

It was because of Katrina (2005) that had BOTH outages for cell phones
and POTS that the FCC made a ruling regarding capacity and that cell
phone carriers must have backup battery power.  Alas, not everyone
complies with the demands of the FCC who is totally overwhelmed by
political control.

That POTS stayed up attests to not have the poles get blown over (unless
you're in an area where the lines are buried).  Doesn't take but a
tornado in my area to cut off POTS because the poles got blown down or
they got toppled or their lines had trees fall on them.  A prior very
wet week or two helps with soggy ground to make uprooting much easier.
Hell, had to have the line replaced twice just from a squirrel chewing
on the line.  The third time they bypassed the old cable and ran a new
one, so now I have two of them running to the house (and neither are
used since I went VOIP via my ISP).  

For me, during power outages (about twice a year here, at least) and
over several tornadoes taking out the POTS lines, the cell phones were
still working.

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#32496

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 07:31:45 -0400, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com>
wrote:

>VanguardLH wrote on 7/20/2016 4:11 AM:
>> Alek wrote:
>> 
>>> nospam wrote on 7/19/2016 10:16 PM:
>>>> In article <nmmmkb$q60$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
>>>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
>>>>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
>>>>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
>>>>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
>>>>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
>>>>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
>>>>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
>>>> 
>>>> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
>>>> proprietary box either.
>>> 
>>> Such as?
>> 
>> MagicJack
>> $35 for 1 year subscription    = $2.92 per month
>> $99.95 for 5 year subscription = $1.67 per month
>> 
>> I had them back when you had to install their customized softphone on
>> your computer to dial your calls.  I didn't like that setup, plus they
>> would auto-update their software which defeated some of my tweaks.  Now
>> they have a dongle that plugs into the router: Ethernet to router, RJ-11
>> jack to phone, USB to A/C power adapter.  Nothing installed on your
>> computer.  I've read where some folks will use MagicJack with their
>> tablets so they can make calls using their tablet.
>> 
>> However, as cheap as VOIP services are, you still have to pay for an
>> Internet provider so remember to add [a portion of] that cost when
>> deciding to leave the old POTS service.
>
>My concern is that when we get a storm that knocks out cell service and
>therefore the Internet. The landline has stayed up during all such
>storms so we do not lose contact with the outside world.

We had a storm that blew the trees so that a tree fell on the big
thick phone cable where it went through a section of woods.  The force
of tree falling on the cable pulled on the phone pole at boundary
between the woods and a field and phone pole broke and fell over, and
then the cable went under the  water of the stream. that ran down the
middle of the woods. 

Being a dutiful citizen, I called the phone company and reported it.
When nothing happened, I called again 2 months later, and again about
2 months after that. I think I go some acknowledgement that I had
called about 6 months after this started, but they didn't fix
anything.

But knowing they knew about it, I sat back and they finally fixed it 2
years later. 

Of course my phone worked fine the whole time, proving I guess that
those cables really are waterproof.  After the pole, the cable is
buried for the last 150 yards to our houses.   Except for little light
green "pedestals" that stick up like mushrooms in a few places.

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#33530

Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nmnnfa$j0k$1@dont-email.me: 

> VanguardLH wrote on 7/20/2016 4:11 AM:
>> Alek wrote:

<<<<snip>>>>. 
> 
> My concern is that when we get a storm that knocks out cell
> service and therefore the Internet. The landline has stayed up
> during all such storms so we do not lose contact with the outside
> world. 

Where do you live?
Some VOIP's(Vonage for one) ask for an alternate number such as a cell 
phone that can be used in the event of a power or other outage.  I 
can't recall anytime that cell service has been out from a power 
outage, but if it's that bad, you don't need to use a phone because no 
one else will be ablr to receive your call in the area.

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#32555

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 03:11:26 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

> you still have to pay for an
> Internet provider so remember to add [a portion of] that cost when
> deciding to leave the old POTS service.

And be sure your ISP can deliver adequate data rates (no, the 600 Kbps
throughput that Frontier delivers for their nominal 6 Mbps service is *not*
an adequate data rate :-{ ). HTH.

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32356

In article <nmn8rr$5uq$2@dont-email.me>, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >> 
> >> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
> >> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
> >> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
> >> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
> >> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
> >> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
> >> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
> > 
> > there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
> > proprietary box either.
> 
> Such as?

any of *numerous* voip providers.

<http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers+Residential>

for hardware, any standard ata box or sip app (mobile, desktop or both).

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#32373

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 03:22:27 -0400, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com>
wrote:

>nospam wrote on 7/19/2016 10:16 PM:
>> In article <nmmmkb$q60$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>>> 
>>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
>>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
>>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
>>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
>>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
>>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
>>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
>> 
>> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
>> proprietary box either.
>
>Such as?


Google Voice. I believe it's still free.

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#32380

In article <nv4vob15lcdat8n4mca3uqefrprgu8318u@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
<Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

> >>> 
> >>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
> >>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
> >>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
> >>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
> >>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
> >>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
> >>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
> >> 
> >> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
> >> proprietary box either.
> >
> >Such as?
> 
> Google Voice. I believe it's still free.

google voice is not a voip provider and requires at least one actual
phone line to be used.

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#32456

nospam wrote on 7/20/2016 11:44 AM:
> In article <nv4vob15lcdat8n4mca3uqefrprgu8318u@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
> <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I've been gloriously happy with Ooma for a couple of years.  All the 
>> >>> good phone stuff for less than $5/month after purchasing the device, 
>> >>> which plugs into your router.  I've got a code which gives a price of 
>> >>> $90 (ends July 29 and I get a kickback too), but feel free to buy 
>> >>> through other sources -- I'm not in it for the money!.  Costco has it 
>> >>> every once in a while.  I'm just SOOO happy I was able to kick AT&T in 
>> >>> the teeth that I want everybody else to be happy too!
>> >> 
>> >> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
>> >> proprietary box either.
>> >
>> >Such as?
>> 
>> Google Voice. I believe it's still free.
> 
> google voice is not a voip provider and requires at least one actual
> phone line to be used.
> 

What is an "actual phone line"?

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#32458

In article <nmou5j$u0f$4@dont-email.me>, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >> >> there are far less expensive alternatives and ones that don't require a
> >> >> proprietary box either.
> >> >
> >> >Such as?
> >> 
> >> Google Voice. I believe it's still free.
> > 
> > google voice is not a voip provider and requires at least one actual
> > phone line to be used.
> > 
> 
> What is an "actual phone line"?

pots, cell or voip.

google voice *forwards* to one or more phones.

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#32410

Ken Blake wrote:

> Google Voice. I believe it's still free.

I use them because I give out a single phone number which can call ALL
of my phones: 2 home VOIP numbers (1 full plan, 1 basic plan so no
voicemail), 3 cell phone numbers, and work phone.  I even transfered my
30-year old home phone number to them so everyone that knew that old
number could still use it.  In fact, without the presence of my cell
phone to check, I can't even tell you what are my cell phone numbers.
Two of the cell phone numbers don't have voicemail service but they get
it via Google Voice.  One number to call them all.  

I can even configure when a number is called, like no point in ringing
my work phone during non-work hours and possibly having someone else
pick up the call.  And it's free (but the old number transfer cost $20).  

Plus I can get texts and/or e-mail alerts on my computer or smartphone
when someone leaves voicemail.  I can have different voicemail prompts
for anonymous callers, callers within specific groups in my contacts
list, and for all other callers in my contacts list. 

Plus I can blacklist (screen) out unwanted callers at the server.  Great
for screening out the spammers.

Plus I can use their app on my smartphone to make calls via wifi that
don't chew into my cell phone service's quota plus the same feature with
my ISP's voice service using wifi with their app on my smartphone plus I
get 60 minutes/month with Skype included in my Office subscription.  I
save a lot of minutes on my cell phone service's talk and text quotas
(which luckily has non-expiring rollover) when within range of
good-enough free wifi.  At home, I use the wifi in my cable modem for my
ISP's Internet service.

You can use their smartphone app to make free phone calls via wifi.  So,
unlike what nospam claimed, you do not need a phone number (but who has
a smartphone without a number assigned to it, anyway).  That's to make
phone calls.  To receive phone calls obviously means Google Voice has to
redirect a call to somewhere, so you do need a phone number to receive.
Who doesn't have a phone number nowadays whether it be landline, VOIP,
or cell phone?  Even the very poor can probably get some phone service
for free or very cheap.  Everyone visiting here has a computer so they
can get phone service, too; i.e., if they can afford a computer and
Internet service, they can afford a phone and service or get them cheap
or maybe even free.

Yes, with Google Voice, you will need a phone number to receive calls
(unless you just use their voicemail service for all incoming calls).
You can call out for free without your own separate phone service.

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#32308

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:11:22 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>...NOT part of your cable service?

Is a "cable service" not a landline?

But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
to type this, but it also worjks for our Android phones when we're at
home for the data part, though not for voice calls or SMS,


Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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