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  What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 00:29 -0400
    Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 06:34 +0200
      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 06:59 +0000
        Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:57 +0200
          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
        Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-13 14:05 +0200
          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 23:50 -0400
            Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-14 13:50 +0200
              Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 04:33 -0400
                Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:20 +0200
                  Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:54 -0400
                    Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-15 22:14 +0200
                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 21:03 -0400
                        Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 09:13 +0200
                          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:46 +0000
                          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 23:53 -0400
                            Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 07:28 +0200
                              Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 01:39 -0400
                                Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 07:51 +0200
                                Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 08:43 +0200
                                  Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 10:55 -0400
                                    Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:16 +0200
                                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:17 +0200
                                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 12:21 -0400
                              Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 03:56 -0400
                                Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:13 +0200
                                  Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 23:51 -0400
                                    Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:54 +0200
                                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 02:09 -0400
                                        Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:06 +0200
                                          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-28 03:27 -0400
                                    Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 02:25 -0400
                                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 08:37 +0200
                                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-22 02:40 -0400
                                        Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 08:53 +0200
                    Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-16 00:03 -0400
                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-18 16:41 -0500
                        Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-20 03:20 -0400
                          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:51 -0500
                  Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:56 -0400
                    Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-15 22:17 +0200
                      Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 21:05 -0400
                Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
              Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
            Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 23:56 -0400
            Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-19 20:20 +0200
        Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 00:57 -0400
          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 21:00 -0400
          Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:41 +0000
            Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 00:01 -0400
              Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:37 +0000
                Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 03:30 -0400

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#31853

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:56:43 -0400, Micky wrote:

> BTW, I only spoke for myself. I said "by me", and "If I called more
> people".   I didn't try to speak for you, as you have tried to speak
> for me. 

I made a suggestion based on the information  you gave me.

_If I called more people or they called me_

Your words. I (wrongfully) assumed that was the only thing that was
important to you. Only now are you speaking of web and mail and GPS.
That's not my fault, is it?

-- 
s|b

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#31869

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:17:28 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:56:43 -0400, Micky wrote:
>
>> BTW, I only spoke for myself. I said "by me", and "If I called more
>> people".   I didn't try to speak for you, as you have tried to speak
>> for me. 
>
>I made a suggestion based on the information  you gave me.

The way to do that is to say, If I were in your shoes, I'd get a
flipphone.     Not to tell me how I would be better off. 

>_If I called more people or they called me_
>
>Your words. I (wrongfully) assumed that was the only thing that was
>important to you. Only now are you speaking of web and mail and GPS.

Who started the thread and what is the thread about?  I did, about
using a map program. 

>That's not my fault, is it?

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#32133

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:33:50 -0400, Micky wrote:

> All the ones below are expensive by me.    If I called more people or
> they called me, it might be worth it.

I usually buy phones around $200 but it takes brains to find a good
price:performance 16GB phone at that price.

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#32134

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:50:46 +0200, s|b wrote:

> I paid 287 euro for an LG Nexus X 16GB. ATM they are sold for 246 euro.
> Same model 32GB costs 299 euro.

Two or so years ago I paid $350 from T-Mobile for an unlocked Nexus 5, but
the Google Play store had it for $300.

I only bought it from T-Mobile because they gave me full credit for the
previous phone that I had.

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#32135

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:05:36 +0200, s|b wrote:

> A lot of apps ask a lot of
> permissions although they won't actually use them.

One nice thing about App Ops Starter freeware is that it will tell you when
the permissions were last used.

For example:
http://i.cubeupload.com/1mkCkS.gif

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#32178

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 23:47:08 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:05:36 +0200, s|b wrote:
>
>> A lot of apps ask a lot of
>> permissions although they won't actually use them.
>
>One nice thing about App Ops Starter freeware is that it will tell you when
>the permissions were last used.

But what about what I pposted, that since ver. 4.4, Android won't
display most or all of the information that App Ops something
displayed.  I forget the details but it's in one of my posts in this
ng, maybe this thread. 
>
>For example:
>http://i.cubeupload.com/1mkCkS.gif

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#32250

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 23:47:08 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote:

> One nice thing about App Ops Starter freeware is that it will tell you when
> the permissions were last used.
> 
> For example:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/1mkCkS.gif

Nexus 5X doesn't show the date, but it can show which permissions are
allowed or not.

-- 
s|b

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#31618

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 06:59:53 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 06:34:08 +0200, Poutnik wrote:
>
>> It is quite common, many map applications
>> provide feature of sharing current locations,
>> points, tracks, other data.

WADR if it wants to tell me where Yellowstone Park or the Marianbad
spa is, that's great, but it doesn't need to know who my friends are,
what their numbers are, or where they live.   If I can't find them,
I'll call and get directions. 

>Why not install "App Ops Starter"?
>It allows you to deny each of the specific privileges after the fact. 

After the fact even.  That sounds great.  Going to do it now. 

(And I don't have any contacts in the phone yet, so in a way, it won't
be after the fact.) 

Oops:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter
Update: Google has removed all possibilities to start the "App Ops" on
non-rooted Android 4.4.2 devices. Until today no backdoor was found to
give you easy access to this feature.       ???

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#31867

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:57:30 -0400, Micky
<NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:

>Oops:
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter
>Update: Google has removed all possibilities to start the "App Ops" on
>non-rooted Android 4.4.2 devices. Until today no backdoor was found to
>give you easy access to this feature.       ???

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#32150

On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:57:30 -0400, Micky wrote:

> Oops:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter
> Update: Google has removed all possibilities to start the "App Ops" on
> non-rooted Android 4.4.2 devices. Until today no backdoor was found to
> give you easy access to this feature.       ???

Hmmmm... I'm on Android 4.3 and my App Ops Starter app is old like all my
aps ('cuz I don't update 'em unless I must) but it works just fine.

I do have an automatic backup of the APK because I also have "App Backup"
freeware, which saves all the APKs of all the files installed so that you
can use them again (even on other similar phones).

App Backup freeware says my App Ops Starter freeware is version 1.1.0 and
it was installed in 2014, and I *never* update my apps unless I absolutely
have to (for good reasons - generally they get worse over time).

http://i.cubeupload.com/NxixAc.gif

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#32179

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:41:07 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:57:30 -0400, Micky wrote:
>
>> Oops:
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter
>> Update: Google has removed all possibilities to start the "App Ops" on
>> non-rooted Android 4.4.2 devices. Until today no backdoor was found to
>> give you easy access to this feature.       ???

Ignore my reply to your other post.  I didn't know where this post of
mine was, or that you had answered it. 

>Hmmmm... I'm on Android 4.3 and my App Ops Starter app is old like all my
>aps ('cuz I don't update 'em unless I must) but it works just fine.

He wasn't saying that a newer app would help, just that a newer
Android will keep any such app from working.  I went there to install
that app, but the update made it seem like it wasn't worth the effort.
I looked at one or two similar apps and I forget the details but they
were not encouraging.     I know nothing about this otherwise. 

>I do have an automatic backup of the APK because I also have "App Backup"
>freeware, which saves all the APKs of all the files installed so that you
>can use them again (even on other similar phones).
>
>App Backup freeware says my App Ops Starter freeware is version 1.1.0 and
>it was installed in 2014, and I *never* update my apps unless I absolutely
>have to (for good reasons - generally they get worse over time).

I wouldn't bother updating either.   Heck I used XP until the HDD
broke last fall, and my version of Eudora was written 10 years ago. 
>
>http://i.cubeupload.com/NxixAc.gif

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#32195

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:01:21 -0400, Micky wrote:

> He wasn't saying that a newer app would help, just that a newer
> Android will keep any such app from working.  I went there to install
> that app, but the update made it seem like it wasn't worth the effort.
> I looked at one or two similar apps and I forget the details but they
> were not encouraging.     I know nothing about this otherwise.

I saw those blurbs about App Ops Starter not working on certain newer
unrooted Android operating systems.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter

However, I also thought I saw blurbs elsewhere that said that the newest
Android operating systems come with the functionality of App Ops Starter. 
http://i.cubeupload.com/jfF00n.png

Does anyone know more about this?
http://i.cubeupload.com/NxixAc.gif

The functionality that App Ops Starter provides should be part of the OS
anyway.

Is the functionality part of the OS in the "newer" Android versions?

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#32211

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:37:47 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:01:21 -0400, Micky wrote:
>
>> He wasn't saying that a newer app would help, just that a newer
>> Android will keep any such app from working.  I went there to install
>> that app, but the update made it seem like it wasn't worth the effort.
>> I looked at one or two similar apps and I forget the details but they
>> were not encouraging.     I know nothing about this otherwise.
>
>I saw those blurbs about App Ops Starter not working on certain newer
>unrooted Android operating systems.
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter
>
>However, I also thought I saw blurbs elsewhere that said that the newest
>Android operating systems come with the functionality of App Ops Starter. 
>http://i.cubeupload.com/jfF00n.png
>
>Does anyone know more about this?
>http://i.cubeupload.com/NxixAc.gif

Not me, except to say that bad information is possible from either
side.    Maybe I should install it and see if it works, but I hate
having software in that doens't work. 

>The functionality that App Ops Starter provides should be part of the OS
>anyway.

Yes it should. 

>Is the functionality part of the OS in the "newer" Android versions?

That guy says that denial of that functionality is part of newer
Androids !   ;)

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