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  critical security patches incoming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 16:57 +0000
    Re: critical security patches incoming pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-08-07 22:57 +0100
      Re: critical security patches incoming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 07:10 +0000
        Re: critical security patches incoming pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-08-16 21:11 +0100
          Re: critical security patches incoming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 07:52 +0000
            Re: critical security patches incoming Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2016-08-17 10:12 +0100
          Re: critical security patches incoming Roy Smith <rasmith1959@live.com> - 2016-08-17 03:01 -0500
            Re: critical security patches incoming pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-08-17 17:52 +0100
              Re: critical security patches incoming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 18:17 +0000
                Re: critical security patches incoming pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-08-18 15:48 +0100
                  Re: critical security patches incoming Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 17:02 +0000
    Re: critical security patches incoming ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-08-16 19:23 -0500

#33023 — critical security patches incoming

http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bundle/

Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if you don't get
them.

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#33190

On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
> 
> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bundle
> / 
> 
> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if you
> don't get them.

Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl (Kitkat) I 
don't think I've had a single patch.

How do I make my tablet catch up on these?

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#33267

pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>> 
>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bundle
>> / 
>> 
>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if you
>> don't get them.
> 
> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl (Kitkat) I 
> don't think I've had a single patch.
> 
> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?

You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware. Much of it doesn't
get any updates from the day it leaves the factory. Only Nexus devices are
guaranteed to get updates for - I think - two years

This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.

You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods Act at them, but
I wouldn't hold my breath.

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#33428

On 08:10  10 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:

> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bund
>>> le / 
>>> 
>>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if
>>> you don't get them.
>> 
>> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl
>> (Kitkat) I don't think I've had a single patch.
>> 
>> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?
> 
> You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware. Much of
> it doesn't get any updates from the day it leaves the factory.
> Only Nexus devices are guaranteed to get updates for - I think -
> two years 
> 
> This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.
> 
> You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods Act
> at them, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

So my Android is not updating itself but is out of date.

Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have to be 
specific to my Hudl?

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#33463

pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 08:10  10 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
> 
>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bund
>>>> le / 
>>>> 
>>>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if
>>>> you don't get them.
>>> 
>>> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl
>>> (Kitkat) I don't think I've had a single patch.
>>> 
>>> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?
>> 
>> You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware. Much of
>> it doesn't get any updates from the day it leaves the factory.
>> Only Nexus devices are guaranteed to get updates for - I think -
>> two years 
>> 
>> This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.
>> 
>> You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods Act
>> at them, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
> 
> So my Android is not updating itself but is out of date.

Yup.

> Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have to be 
> specific to my Hudl?

Possibly. There are third party versions of Android that are made available
for many devices e.g. Cyanogen mod. However, it's not for the feint
hearted. See here for more http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tesco-hudl

You will lose any proprietary apps that came with the hudl.

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#33468

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have to be 
> > specific to my Hudl?
> 
> Possibly. There are third party versions of Android that are made available
> for many devices e.g. Cyanogen mod. However, it's not for the feint
> hearted. See here for more http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tesco-hudl
> 
> You will lose any proprietary apps that came with the hudl.
> 
Which in mnay cases would be a very good thing!  :-)

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#33464

On 8/16/2016 3:11 PM, pamela wrote:
> On 08:10  10 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>
>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bund
>>>> le /
>>>>
>>>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if
>>>> you don't get them.
>>>
>>> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl
>>> (Kitkat) I don't think I've had a single patch.
>>>
>>> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?
>>
>> You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware. Much of
>> it doesn't get any updates from the day it leaves the factory.
>> Only Nexus devices are guaranteed to get updates for - I think -
>> two years
>>
>> This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.
>>
>> You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods Act
>> at them, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
> So my Android is not updating itself but is out of date.
>
> Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have to be
> specific to my Hudl?
>

I'm sorry to sat that you'll have to find updates that are specifically 
for your device, that come from it's manufacturer and in some cases, are 
approved by your cellular carrier. Because Android is open source it's 
easy for a device manufacturer to design their own custom user 
interface, for example Samsung's Touch Wiz or LG's Sense which leads to 
the problem of fragmentation in the Android market. Some of these device 
manufacturer have so many models that providing updates to all of them 
would be a monumental task. So the manufacturers generally only provide 
updates for their flagship and high-end devices, and ignoring the older 
mid-range and bargain models.

So depending on what device you have, the chances of you ever seeing an 
update for Android are very slim or non-existent.

-- 

Roy Smith
Windows 10 64 bit
Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 3:00 AM
Thunderbird 45.2.0

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#33476

On 09:01  17 Aug 2016, Roy Smith wrote:

> On 8/16/2016 3:11 PM, pamela wrote:
>> On 08:10  10 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>
>>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bu
>>>>> nd le /
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if
>>>>> you don't get them.
>>>>
>>>> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl
>>>> (Kitkat) I don't think I've had a single patch.
>>>>
>>>> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?
>>>
>>> You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware. Much
>>> of it doesn't get any updates from the day it leaves the
>>> factory. Only Nexus devices are guaranteed to get updates for
>>> - I think - two years
>>>
>>> This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.
>>>
>>> You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods Act
>>> at them, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>
>> So my Android is not updating itself but is out of date.
>>
>> Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have to
>> be specific to my Hudl?
>>
> 
> I'm sorry to sat that you'll have to find updates that are
> specifically for your device, that come from it's manufacturer
> and in some cases, are approved by your cellular carrier.
> Because Android is open source it's easy for a device
> manufacturer to design their own custom user interface, for
> example Samsung's Touch Wiz or LG's Sense which leads to the
> problem of fragmentation in the Android market. Some of these
> device manufacturer have so many models that providing updates
> to all of them would be a monumental task. So the manufacturers
> generally only provide updates for their flagship and high-end
> devices, and ignoring the older mid-range and bargain models.
> 
> So depending on what device you have, the chances of you ever
> seeing an update for Android are very slim or non-existent.

Have there been any serious security flaws exposed since my KitKat 
(4.4.2)?

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#33483

pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 09:01  17 Aug 2016, Roy Smith wrote:
> 
>> On 8/16/2016 3:11 PM, pamela wrote:
>>> On 08:10  10 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bu
>>>>>> nd le /
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if
>>>>>> you don't get them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl
>>>>> (Kitkat) I don't think I've had a single patch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?
>>>> 
>>>> You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware. Much
>>>> of it doesn't get any updates from the day it leaves the
>>>> factory. Only Nexus devices are guaranteed to get updates for
>>>> - I think - two years
>>>> 
>>>> This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.
>>>> 
>>>> You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods Act
>>>> at them, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>> 
>>> So my Android is not updating itself but is out of date.
>>> 
>>> Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have to
>>> be specific to my Hudl?
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm sorry to sat that you'll have to find updates that are
>> specifically for your device, that come from it's manufacturer
>> and in some cases, are approved by your cellular carrier.
>> Because Android is open source it's easy for a device
>> manufacturer to design their own custom user interface, for
>> example Samsung's Touch Wiz or LG's Sense which leads to the
>> problem of fragmentation in the Android market. Some of these
>> device manufacturer have so many models that providing updates
>> to all of them would be a monumental task. So the manufacturers
>> generally only provide updates for their flagship and high-end
>> devices, and ignoring the older mid-range and bargain models.
>> 
>> So depending on what device you have, the chances of you ever
>> seeing an update for Android are very slim or non-existent.
> 
> Have there been any serious security flaws exposed since my KitKat 
> (4.4.2)?
> 

Yes. See the OP and the well known stagefright bug
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)

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#33508

On 19:17  17 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:

> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 09:01  17 Aug 2016, Roy Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/16/2016 3:11 PM, pamela wrote:
>>>> On 08:10  10 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bu
>>>>>>> nd le /
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer
>>>>>>> if you don't get them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl
>>>>>> (Kitkat) I don't think I've had a single patch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?
>>>>> 
>>>>> You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware.
>>>>> Much of it doesn't get any updates from the day it leaves
>>>>> the factory. Only Nexus devices are guaranteed to get
>>>>> updates for - I think - two years
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods
>>>>> Act at them, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>>> 
>>>> So my Android is not updating itself but is out of date.
>>>> 
>>>> Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have
>>>> to be specific to my Hudl?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry to sat that you'll have to find updates that are
>>> specifically for your device, that come from it's manufacturer
>>> and in some cases, are approved by your cellular carrier.
>>> Because Android is open source it's easy for a device
>>> manufacturer to design their own custom user interface, for
>>> example Samsung's Touch Wiz or LG's Sense which leads to the
>>> problem of fragmentation in the Android market. Some of these
>>> device manufacturer have so many models that providing updates
>>> to all of them would be a monumental task. So the
>>> manufacturers generally only provide updates for their
>>> flagship and high-end devices, and ignoring the older
>>> mid-range and bargain models. 
>>> 
>>> So depending on what device you have, the chances of you ever
>>> seeing an update for Android are very slim or non-existent.
>> 
>> Have there been any serious security flaws exposed since my
>> KitKat (4.4.2)?
>> 
> 
> Yes. See the OP and the well known stagefright bug
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)

Oh dear.  This is not good.

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#33517

pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 19:17  17 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
> 
>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 09:01  17 Aug 2016, Roy Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 8/16/2016 3:11 PM, pamela wrote:
>>>>> On 08:10  10 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17:57  2 Aug 2016, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bu
>>>>>>>> nd le /
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer
>>>>>>>> if you don't get them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Patches?  What's that?  Ever since I bought my Tesco Hudl
>>>>>>> (Kitkat) I don't think I've had a single patch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How do I make my tablet catch up on these?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You have to choose very carefully with Android hardware.
>>>>>> Much of it doesn't get any updates from the day it leaves
>>>>>> the factory. Only Nexus devices are guaranteed to get
>>>>>> updates for - I think - two years
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a big problem for Android in my opinion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You could try hassling Tesco and maybe bandy Sale of Goods
>>>>>> Act at them, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So my Android is not updating itself but is out of date.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I get the patches from a 3rd party site or do they have
>>>>> to be specific to my Hudl?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry to sat that you'll have to find updates that are
>>>> specifically for your device, that come from it's manufacturer
>>>> and in some cases, are approved by your cellular carrier.
>>>> Because Android is open source it's easy for a device
>>>> manufacturer to design their own custom user interface, for
>>>> example Samsung's Touch Wiz or LG's Sense which leads to the
>>>> problem of fragmentation in the Android market. Some of these
>>>> device manufacturer have so many models that providing updates
>>>> to all of them would be a monumental task. So the
>>>> manufacturers generally only provide updates for their
>>>> flagship and high-end devices, and ignoring the older
>>>> mid-range and bargain models. 
>>>> 
>>>> So depending on what device you have, the chances of you ever
>>>> seeing an update for Android are very slim or non-existent.
>>> 
>>> Have there been any serious security flaws exposed since my
>>> KitKat (4.4.2)?
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes. See the OP and the well known stagefright bug
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)
> 
> Oh dear.  This is not good.

No. It isn't. And I'm afraid it's going to get worse before it gets better.

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#33460

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/02/android_august_patch_bundle/

> Keep an eye out for them and pester your SP/manufacturer if you don't get
> them.

I just got an update on Samsung Galaxy S6 edge's Android v6.0.1. this 
early morning PDT. I wonder if this was the update.
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