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| Started by | "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> |
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| First post | 2015-08-14 13:47 +0000 |
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What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> - 2015-08-14 13:47 +0000
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:09 +0100
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> - 2015-08-14 17:40 +0000
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Cy Burnot <cyburnot@notgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 14:07 -0400
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 13:04 +0200
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 16:33 -0400
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Cy Burnot <cyburnot@notgmail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:42 -0400
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 07:57 +0200
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-08-16 07:44 +0100
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 17:50 +0100
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:18 +0200
Re: What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? Feckless John <noone@inept.net> - 2015-08-14 14:36 -0400
| From | "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 13:47 +0000 |
| Subject | What Application Packages Are Part of Default Android? |
| Message-ID | <xn0jpr7xg37z01000@reader.albasani.net> |
I am considering buying a tabled with Android KitKat installed on it. Is there a list of packages that come installed by default with Android KitKat? Or is it so that KitKat's default installed applications vary depending on the manufacturer of the tablet? -- tb
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 18:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d36ljjF35f0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #22031 |
On 14/08/2015 14:47, tb wrote: > I am considering buying a tabled with Android KitKat installed on it. > Is there a list of packages that come installed by default with Android > KitKat? Or is it so that KitKat's default installed applications vary > depending on the manufacturer of the tablet? The latter. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 17:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0jpre2xbjpvz001@reader.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #22035 |
On 8/14/2015 at 12:09:25 PM Roger Mills wrote: > On 14/08/2015 14:47, tb wrote: > > I am considering buying a tabled with Android KitKat installed on > > it. Is there a list of packages that come installed by default > > with Android KitKat? Or is it so that KitKat's default installed > > applications vary depending on the manufacturer of the tablet? > > The latter. Ok, thanks. Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android version for tablets? Or perhaps once I purchase a tabled with an Android version I am stuck with it? I just don't understand how the whole Android thing works for tablets, cell phones... -- tb
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| From | Cy Burnot <cyburnot@notgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 14:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqlapj$q0h$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #22036 |
tb wrote on 8/14/2015 1:40 PM: > On 8/14/2015 at 12:09:25 PM Roger Mills wrote: > >> On 14/08/2015 14:47, tb wrote: >> > I am considering buying a tabled with Android KitKat installed on >> > it. Is there a list of packages that come installed by default >> > with Android KitKat? Or is it so that KitKat's default installed >> > applications vary depending on the manufacturer of the tablet? >> >> The latter. > > Ok, thanks. > > Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to > something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a > non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android > version for tablets? > > Or perhaps once I purchase a tabled with an Android version I am stuck > with it? > > I just don't understand how the whole Android thing works for tablets, > cell phones... You have a steep learning curve! Google root my phone flash custom ROM
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 13:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mqn691$fg1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22036 |
Dne 14/08/2015 v 19:40 tb napsal(a): > > Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to > something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a > non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android > version for tablets? > > Or perhaps once I purchase a tabled with an Android version I am stuck > with it? > > I just don't understand how the whole Android thing works for tablets, > cell phones... > Standard way for non technical users: Android versions tailored for particular device are prepared by device vendor from "vanilla Android". Each device has it own scope of Android versions the vendor supports for this device. E.g. Sony XPERIA M came with A4.1 and A4.3 is last for it. ( fortunately, as KK would be nightmare due access policy ) These updates are provides by vendor update channels, independent on e.g. Google Play for applications. ------------------------ Non standard ways for experienced users are custom ROMs like Cyanogenmod or similar, and rooting the device to apply them. But it may be challenging and not all devices are supported. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
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| From | Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 16:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqo7k1$bh5$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22042 |
Poutnik wrote on 8/15/2015 7:04 AM: > Dne 14/08/2015 v 19:40 tb napsal(a): > >> >> Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to >> something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a >> non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android >> version for tablets? >> >> Or perhaps once I purchase a tabled with an Android version I am stuck >> with it? >> >> I just don't understand how the whole Android thing works for tablets, >> cell phones... >> > > Standard way for non technical users: > > Android versions tailored for particular device > are prepared by device vendor from "vanilla Android". > > Each device has it own scope of Android versions > the vendor supports for this device. > E.g. Sony XPERIA M came with A4.1 and A4.3 is last for it. > ( fortunately, as KK would be nightmare due access policy ) > > These updates are provides by vendor update channels, > independent on e.g. Google Play for applications. > ------------------------ > Non standard ways for experienced users are custom ROMs > like Cyanogenmod or similar, and rooting the device to apply them. > > But it may be challenging and not all devices are supported. > I have an spare phone (no sim) and it would be a great test to play with. How would I know if the mod would work on my phone before applying it? And can I restore the old Android if it doesn't easily?
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| From | Cy Burnot <cyburnot@notgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 16:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqo87j$ss$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #22054 |
Big Al wrote on 8/15/2015 4:33 PM: > Poutnik wrote on 8/15/2015 7:04 AM: >> Dne 14/08/2015 v 19:40 tb napsal(a): >> >>> >>> Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to >>> something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a >>> non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android >>> version for tablets? >>> >>> Or perhaps once I purchase a tabled with an Android version I am stuck >>> with it? >>> >>> I just don't understand how the whole Android thing works for tablets, >>> cell phones... >>> >> >> Standard way for non technical users: >> >> Android versions tailored for particular device >> are prepared by device vendor from "vanilla Android". >> >> Each device has it own scope of Android versions >> the vendor supports for this device. >> E.g. Sony XPERIA M came with A4.1 and A4.3 is last for it. >> ( fortunately, as KK would be nightmare due access policy ) >> >> These updates are provides by vendor update channels, >> independent on e.g. Google Play for applications. >> ------------------------ >> Non standard ways for experienced users are custom ROMs >> like Cyanogenmod or similar, and rooting the device to apply them. >> >> But it may be challenging and not all devices are supported. >> > I have an spare phone (no sim) and it would be a great test to play with. How would I know if the mod would work on my > phone before applying it? And can I restore the old Android if it doesn't easily? Go to Android Central Find your phone.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 07:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mqp8kp$9kk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22054 |
Dne 15/08/2015 v 22:33 Big Al napsal(a): > Poutnik wrote on 8/15/2015 7:04 AM: >> Dne 14/08/2015 v 19:40 tb napsal(a): >> >> >> Standard way for non technical users: >> >> Android versions tailored for particular device >> are prepared by device vendor from "vanilla Android". >> >> Each device has it own scope of Android versions >> the vendor supports for this device. >> E.g. Sony XPERIA M came with A4.1 and A4.3 is last for it. >> ( fortunately, as KK would be nightmare due access policy ) >> >> These updates are provides by vendor update channels, >> independent on e.g. Google Play for applications. >> ------------------------ >> Non standard ways for experienced users are custom ROMs >> like Cyanogenmod or similar, and rooting the device to apply them. >> >> But it may be challenging and not all devices are supported. >> > I have an spare phone (no sim) and it would be a great test to play with. How would I know if the mod would work on my > phone before applying it? And can I restore the old Android if it doesn't easily? > > I would say if you have to ask, I strongly advice against that. For the mods, there are usually given lists of devices. I suggest googling such procedures, as read carefullly directions and warnings. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
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| From | Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 07:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d3appjF3ocgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #22054 |
in 22257 20150815 213348 Big Al <Big_al@invalid.com> wrote: >Poutnik wrote on 8/15/2015 7:04 AM: >> Dne 14/08/2015 v 19:40 tb napsal(a): >> >>> >>> Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to >>> something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a >>> non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android >>> version for tablets? >>> >>> Or perhaps once I purchase a tabled with an Android version I am stuck >>> with it? >>> >>> I just don't understand how the whole Android thing works for tablets, >>> cell phones... >>> >> >> Standard way for non technical users: >> >> Android versions tailored for particular device >> are prepared by device vendor from "vanilla Android". >> >> Each device has it own scope of Android versions >> the vendor supports for this device. >> E.g. Sony XPERIA M came with A4.1 and A4.3 is last for it. >> ( fortunately, as KK would be nightmare due access policy ) >> >> These updates are provides by vendor update channels, >> independent on e.g. Google Play for applications. >> ------------------------ >> Non standard ways for experienced users are custom ROMs >> like Cyanogenmod or similar, and rooting the device to apply them. >> >> But it may be challenging and not all devices are supported. >> >I have an spare phone (no sim) and it would be a great test to play with. How would I know if the >mod would work on my >phone before applying it? And can I restore the old Android if it doesn't easily? Start by installing TWRP, taking a full system backup, then copy the backup to a PC. Now you can safely play ... :-)
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 17:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d398r7Fn93jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #22036 |
On 14/08/2015 18:40, tb wrote: > On 8/14/2015 at 12:09:25 PM Roger Mills wrote: > >> On 14/08/2015 14:47, tb wrote: >>> I am considering buying a tabled with Android KitKat installed on >>> it. Is there a list of packages that come installed by default >>> with Android KitKat? Or is it so that KitKat's default installed >>> applications vary depending on the manufacturer of the tablet? >> >> The latter. > > Ok, thanks. > > Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to > something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a > non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android > version for tablets? > > Or perhaps once I purchase a tabled with an Android version I am stuck > with it? > > I just don't understand how the whole Android thing works for tablets, > cell phones... There are probably back-door methods you can use if updates fail to arrive, but Android devices are usually sold with support from the manufacturer which provides system updates - for a time at least. With any luck, you'll see a message on your tablet sooner or later saying that a system update has been downloaded, and inviting you to install it. I've had several updates to my Google Nexus-10 - which I've now owned for about 2 years - but I have a feeling they'll stop after 3 years, if not before. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 19:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mqns6k$i8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22036 |
Dne 14/08/2015 v 19:40 tb napsal(a): > Say I wold like to upgrade the KitKat OS installed on the tablet to > something more recent -- like Lollipop. Can that be done easily by a > non-technical user? Where would I dowload the most recent Android > version for tablets? > As a rule of thumb, review how much old is the model, and what internet discussions / vendor pages say about its android updates. If it is new one, it will receive probably at least 1-2 updates. If not new, than it can be reviewed, what versions are current, eventually coming. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
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| From | Feckless John <noone@inept.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 14:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqlcfe$br8$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #22035 |
On 8/14/15 1:09 PM, Roger Mills wrote: > On 14/08/2015 14:47, tb wrote: >> I am considering buying a tabled with Android KitKat installed on it. >> Is there a list of packages that come installed by default with Android >> KitKat? Or is it so that KitKat's default installed applications vary >> depending on the manufacturer of the tablet? > > The latter. And it also differs if it's cellular-capable vs. the exact same tablet model that is WiFi only, e.g., LG G Pad 7 inch V400 vs. LG G Pad V410 from AT&T. See my Aug 12th post re: not being able to update the OS on the ATT version. -- I started out with nothing.…and still have most of it left.
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