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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?

Started byMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
First post2015-07-22 10:06 +0200
Last post2015-07-23 08:39 +1000
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  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 10:06 +0200
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:23 -0400
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:56 +1000
      anonymous sims in EU (was: Who pays for a phone..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-07-23 20:21 +0200
        Re: anonymous sims in EU tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-03 20:04 -0400
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 03:22 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:27 -0400
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 17:00 +0200
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:26 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:00 +1000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:22 +1000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-22 10:07 -0700
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:06 +0000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2015-07-22 13:13 -0700
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:08 +1000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2015-07-24 11:22 +0800
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 14:36 +1000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:12 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:34 +0000
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 16:58 -0400
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 17:51 -0700
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 09:57 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-24 14:32 +0200
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Wolfgang Barth <barthwo@spamfence.net> - 2015-07-24 15:38 +0200
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-24 09:26 -0700
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:22 -0400
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-25 11:19 -0700
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:17 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-25 11:18 -0700
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:47 +0000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 09:46 +0200
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 03:50 -0400
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 06:59 -0700
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-04 16:21 +0200
                  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 08:52 -0700
                    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:30 +1000
                  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-04 19:33 +0200
                    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-06 09:39 +0200
                  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:17 -0700
                    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:41 +1000
                    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-04 17:25 -0700
                  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:26 +1000
                  voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-05 20:08 +0200
                    Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-05 14:58 -0400
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-05 15:16 -0400
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 12:41 -0700
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-05 16:03 -0400
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:24 +1000
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:34 -0700
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:51 -0400
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-21 19:45 +0000
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 09:17 -0700
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-24 17:49 +0000
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 13:40 -0700
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-24 19:03 -0500
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-25 09:52 +0700
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 22:28 -0700
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-25 08:17 +0000
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 10:14 -0700
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-10-25 18:50 +0000
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-25 18:00 +0700
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 10:16 -0700
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-26 07:24 +0700
                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:13 -0700
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 07:09 +0700
                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 20:03 -0700
                                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 18:33 +0700
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-26 08:07 -0500
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-10-25 14:58 -0400
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-25 17:10 -0500
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-10-26 10:08 -0400
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:09 -0700
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-26 07:27 +0700
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:14 -0700
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 07:11 +0700
                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 20:09 -0700
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-26 21:24 +0000
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:18 -0700
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:22 -0700
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:41 -0700
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:53 -0700
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 15:35 +1000
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 23:26 -0700
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 16:35 +1000
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:46 -0700
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 14:40 -0400
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 06:02 +1000
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 01:09 +0200
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 14:04 +1000
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2015-08-09 00:14 -0700
                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-09 12:42 +0000
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-10 00:18 +1000
                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-09 17:50 +0000
                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:19 +0200
                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:10 +0200
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 08:43 +0700
                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:40 -0700
                                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-11 00:21 +0200
                                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:57 +0700
                                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-11 09:57 -0400
                                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:20 +0700
                                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-12 11:21 -0400
                                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-12 19:50 +0200
                                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-12 16:21 -0400
                                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 12:08 +0200
                                                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 09:58 -0400
                                                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 17:04 +0200
                                                              security concept "rule of least priviledge" (was: voting booths in repu  areas) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-17 16:42 -0400
                                                                Re: security concept "rule of least priviledge" (was: voting booths in repu  areas) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 10:08 -0400
                                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:26 +0700
                                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 09:38 -0400
                                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 17:14 +0200
                                                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 11:42 -0400
                                                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 18:47 +0200
                                                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 14:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 07:00 +0700
                                                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-14 11:34 -0400
                                                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 06:53 +0700
                                                                      what's entrapment (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 14:13 +0000
                                                                        Re: what's entrapment (was: voting booths in republican areas) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:20 +0700
                                                                          Re: what's entrapment Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-18 22:06 +0200
                                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:43 +0700
                                                                  prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican   areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 13:42 +0000
                                                                    Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican   areas) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:08 +0700
                                                                      Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in  republican   areas) Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-16 17:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-17 22:57 +0200
                                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-12 13:07 -0400
                                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-12 18:31 +0000
                                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-12 22:44 -0400
                                                          why disclose personal info (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 13:20 +0000
                                                            Re: why disclose personal info David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-15 15:12 +0100
                                                              Re: why disclose personal info Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-08-15 15:08 +0000
                                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:26 -0700
                                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:23 -0700
                                                      accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-15 09:50 -0400
                                                        Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2015-08-15 16:36 +0000
                                                        Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:55 -0700
                                                          Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-15 14:44 -0500
                                                            Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:34 -0700
                                                        Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 09:54 +0700
                                                          Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-18 11:02 +1000
                                                          Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-22 12:55 +0000
                                                            Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-22 19:08 +0200
                                                              security vs. manners (was: accommodating unreasonable searches..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-24 00:48 +0200
                                                                Re: security vs. manners Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-24 14:18 -0400
                                                                  Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: security vs. manners Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-25 13:40 +0200
                                                                      Re: security vs. manners Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2015-08-25 12:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: security vs. manners lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2015-08-25 16:38 +0000
                                                                        Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:29 -0400
                                                                          Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 10:19 -0400
                                                                            Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 11:45 -0400
                                                                              Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 13:53 -0400
                                                                                Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 14:39 -0500
                                                                                  Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 16:56 -0400
                                                                                    Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 16:08 -0500
                                                                                      Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:33 -0400
                                                                                        Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 17:32 -0500
                                                                                          Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 19:51 -0400
                                                                                            Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 18:59 -0500
                                                                                              Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-27 08:42 -0400
                                                                                                Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-27 09:24 -0500
                                                                            Re: security vs. manners tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-26 22:52 -0400
                                                                      Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:57 -0700
                                                                        Re: security vs. manners Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:36 +0100
                                                                      Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-25 21:04 -0400
                                                                    Re: security vs. manners tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-26 03:25 -0400
                                                                      Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:26 -0400
                                                                      Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 12:18 -0700
                                                                Re: security vs. manners (was: accommodating unreasonable searches..) TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-25 08:36 -0400
                                                        Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-16 23:19 +0000
                                                        Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) "Stuart McCall" <smccall@myunrealbox.com> - 2015-08-17 18:08 +0100
                                                          Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-17 17:22 -0400
                                                          Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-17 23:15 +0000
                                                            Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) "Stuart McCall" <smccall@myunrealbox.com> - 2015-08-18 17:11 +0100
                                                              Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-18 23:03 +0000
                                                                Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-19 13:53 +0000
                                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:49 +0700
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 17:25 -0700
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 19:51 -0500
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 21:56 -0500
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 20:51 -0700
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 21:48 -0700
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 19:29 -0700
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 15:40 +1000
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-07 00:08 -0700
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 21:08 +1000
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 01:04 +0200
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 13:58 +1000
                                do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican   areas) Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-08 14:03 +0200
                                  Re: do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican   areas) Elias <elias@nowherenohow.com> - 2015-08-08 10:02 -0500
                                  Re: do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in  republican   areas) Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 21:28 +0200
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 15:23 +1000
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas News <News@Group.Post> - 2015-08-06 07:00 -0400
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:59 -0400
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:33 -0700
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 15:34 -0700
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 18:50 -0500
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 16:55 -0700
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:12 -0400
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 08:40 -0500
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 07:26 -0700
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:16 -0400
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:24 -0500
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:16 -0400
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:22 -0500
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 07:35 -0700
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-06 14:36 +0000
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:18 -0400
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:31 -0500
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:46 -0700
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 14:04 -0500
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:14 -0700
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 14:27 -0500
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:44 -0700
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:58 -0500
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:12 -0700
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:36 -0700
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-10 20:05 +0200
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:18 +1000
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 15:27 -0500
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:38 -0700
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 15:25 +1000
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 15:19 -0500
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:07 -0400
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 08:38 -0500
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 07:25 -0700
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 11:11 -0500
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 07:31 -0700
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:02 -0400
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 11:14 -0500
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:38 -0700
                              leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot  booths..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-07 14:58 +0200
                                Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot  booths..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-07 10:56 -0400
                                  Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot  booths..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 05:16 +1000
                                  Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-25 22:45 +0200
                                    Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:24 -0400
                                      Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-27 13:47 +0000
                                        Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-27 10:20 -0400
                                          q) campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? a) education Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-09-03 08:44 +0000
                                        comp.mobile.android "The Sorceress of Qar" <sorceress@qar.qanar.com> - 2015-08-27 09:23 -0500
                                        Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-27 13:01 -0400
                                          Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201509.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-09-06 00:12 +0200
                                Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot  booths..) Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-08 16:21 -0700
                                  Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-22 23:11 +0200
                                    Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 20:54 -0700
                                      Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-08-22 23:40 -0500
                                      Bev's reverse logic (was: leader's campaigns..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-09-03 09:22 +0200
                                        Re: Bev's reverse logic David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-09-03 08:44 +0100
                                    Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-23 08:49 -0400
                                      small campaign donations (was: leader's campaigns..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-31 16:06 -0400
                              leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot  booths..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-12 04:08 -0400
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-05 18:13 -0400
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 16:02 -0700
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2015-08-06 18:27 -0400
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-07 12:36 -0400
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-07 12:38 -0400
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-10 08:51 +0200
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-10 22:28 -0400
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-11 08:53 +0200
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-11 01:06 -0700
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-11 10:25 +0200
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-11 17:46 -0700
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-12 09:54 +0200
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 19:00 -0500
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-07 12:39 -0400
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-08-06 16:14 +0000
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 09:07 -0400
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 09:49 -0400
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 11:46 -0400
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 12:38 -0400
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 18:51 -0400
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 11:14 -0400
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 08:31 -0700
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 12:56 -0400
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 11:57 -0700
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 15:04 -0400
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 12:22 -0700
                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 15:36 -0400
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 06:09 +1000
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 13:10 -0700
                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:03 -0400
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 12:39 -0700
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-19 20:09 +0000
                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 14:27 -0700
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 14:58 -0700
                                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 16:10 -0700
                                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 08:32 -0400
                                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:14 -0400
                                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-24 08:33 -0700
                                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-24 09:37 -0700
                                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 15:27 -0400
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:13 -0400
                                  Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-19 16:34 -0400
                                    Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 14:46 -0700
                                      Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 12:40 -0400
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-20 09:55 -0700
                                          Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-20 10:14 -0700
                                            Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 22:35 -0400
                                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:09 -0400
                                        Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:02 -0400
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-19 00:03 +0200
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 19:01 -0400
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-19 19:08 +1000
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 09:34 -0700
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-18 23:57 +0200
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 19:05 -0400
                          Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 09:28 +1000
                            Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-19 19:14 +1000
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-19 09:09 -0400
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 07:15 -0700
                                Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 05:56 +1000
                              Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 05:52 +1000
                    Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:15 -0700
                      Re: voting booths in republican areas David Solimano <david@solimano.org> - 2015-08-06 22:52 -0400
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 21:59 -0500
                        Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 20:26 -0700
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 14:03 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:11 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 05:34 +1000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:04 +0000
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Dieghettino <d@casa.mia> - 2015-07-26 06:41 +0000
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 08:45 +1000
                non-EU travellers must carry passports (was: Who pays..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-01 20:26 +0200
                  Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-01 21:33 +0100
                    Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-03 23:11 -0400
                      Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-04 14:25 +0100
                        Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-05 18:56 +0200
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 04:05 -0400
                  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 07:03 -0700
                    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 14:11 -0400
                      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-04 11:19 -0700
                      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:19 -0700
                      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 12:32 -0700
                        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 15:40 -0400
                          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 14:15 -0700
                      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:36 +1000
                  id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints?  *no* Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-05 20:05 +0000
                    Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints?  *no* Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:19 -0700
                    Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints?  *no* tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:46 -0400
                    Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints?  *no* "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:10 -0400
                      Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints?  *no* tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 14:51 -0400
                        Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints?  *no* "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 14:58 -0400
                  id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints?  *no* Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-08 08:48 +0200
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-26 18:45 +0000
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:04 +1000
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 09:51 +0200
                Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 09:30 +0200
                  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:24 +1000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:57 +0000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 16:57 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:39 +1000

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#21344

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-25 17:51 -0700
Message-ID<mp1as7$u6c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21301
On 07/25/2015 01:58 PM, M.L. wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:34:53 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
>>   Well, except for a few know-it-alls in this group, most of us have
>> rather limited mind-reading capabilities and our crystal balls are
>> worthless as well, but the most *likely* explanation is that just wanted
>> to make sure that you would pay the bill. As I said before, what they
>> did is probably *illegal* in Italy, but heh, they're Italians, so what
>> the heck has the law got to do with anything!?

I had heard that the passport-retention thing was required by the police 
(I assume) in case the guests committed a crime.

> I think the only rule that matters in Italy is that, whatever you do
> while driving, you have to mean it.
>
> They sense fear.

When we were in Rome we enjoyed watching two drivers jumping up and down 
on their cars in order to separate locked bumpers.  They seemed to enjoy 
the process too.  This was in 1978;  I doubt if modern bumpers could 
stand treatment like that.  We now protect our bumpers with our cars 
instead of the other way around.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
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#21327

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-26 09:57 +1000
Message-ID<d1imevFu3rbU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21292

"Dieghettino" <d@casa.mia> wrote in message 
news:slrnmr84tj.c8r.d@news.eternal-september.org...
>> M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:36:48 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>> > They only do that for foreigners, not even those from other EU 
>>> > countrys.
>>>
>>> I don't know the answer, but I *think* they give the passports to the
>>> local *police*, whom you apparently have to *register* with.
>>>
>>> Again, this is all foreign to me, so, those who actually know *why* they
>>> physically held the passports the entire week, should let me know too.
>>
>>   Well, except for a few know-it-alls in this group, most of us have
>> rather limited mind-reading capabilities and our crystal balls are
>> worthless as well, but the most *likely* explanation is that just wanted
>> to make sure that you would pay the bill. As I said before, what they
>> did is probably *illegal* in Italy, but heh, they're Italians, so what
>> the heck has the law got to do with anything!?
>
> Many things have been said on this topic, most of them wrong.
> I will try to shred some light (or to confuse them definitively...)
>
> Here in Italy we have many personal identification documents which, with
> regards to being identified with, are equivalent. Mains are:
>
> - passport (as everybody)
> - "Carta d'identità"  (namely: identity card. Many other european
>  countries have a similar one and are accepted in Italy)
> - Driving license (yes, it is accepted as ID. I mean: the italian one)
> - Gun licence (yes, we are so strange that, to buy a gun, we need to
>  obtain a license which is issued by an authority and is an ID. If you
>  can't understand why we are so strange, don't bother: that's
>  reciprocal...)
>
> There are a few others, but they are not so widespread. Well, gun licence
> is not common at all either...
> Many have a driving licence so, has long as
> you do not need to go abroad, you can live happily (and legally) on your
> driving license. If you happen to go abroad, then if you stay inside UE 
> the
> identity card is good enough and it is MUCH cheaper than the passport,
> so you never apply for a passport until you don't plan to go outside UE.
> Many people live all their life (happily) without ever holding a passport.
>
> In any case, the identity card in Italy is considered the main ID.
> I think that nearly everybody has the "carta d'identità".
>
> As for being registered at hotels.
> Believe it or not, they don't do it because they fear you don't pay: if
> you happen not to pay, they have to sue you and the expenses and the
> hassle is MUCH bigger of the value you owe them. If they don't trust you,
> they ask you to pay in advance or they swipe your credit card (as
> everywhere else in the world, anyway).
> Registration at hotels happens
> simply because there is a law which forces them to do it. This law
> goes back to 1931 and, if you are good at history, you should realize that
> at the time the italian prime minister was.... guess who?
> Yes: Benito Mussolini. This, I think, should be enough to explain the
> origin and the meaning of the law.
> Well, time is gone since then... but... when they get you used to it...
> why to change...?  ;)
> So, we still have that law which simply says that everybody which sleeps 
> in
> an hotel must be registered and communicated to the police enforcement.
> Believe me: it is a great hassle for hotel keepers and they would really
> get rid of it but, clearly, it is not in their power.
> Moreover: in principle, the law also forces them to register clients
> _in the very moment_ they register in, so they should give you back your 
> ID
> (whatever it is) together with the key. But since it is such an hassle,
> they usually postpone this boring and time-consuming duty to downtimes:
> this is why they ask you to leave your ID.
> But if you urge them that you need your ID for wathever reason, usually
> they do it straight away or, at least, take a copy of your ID.
> That's all of the story.
>
> As for italian sims.
> I am not an expert, anyway in Italy we have mostly prepaid sims. The
> reason is simple: on contracts there is a tax which makes sense only if it
> is not a private sim.
> Main operators are: TIM, Vodafone, Wind, 3.
> There are also virtual operators.
> You subscribe for a basic fare (something like 0.15 €/min for voice calls)
> but you hardly ever use it: usually you put a monthly option on top of it.
> Something like 9 €/month for 200 minutes, 200 sms, 1 GB (it is only an
> example, but this is the order of magnitude).
>
> This means that during the month, you can make for free (well... free
> but for the 9€ you already gave them...) 200 minutes of outgoing calls to
> ITALIAN numbers, send for free (as before...) 200 sms to ITALIAN numbers
> and use 1GB of free (...) data. All this holds only as long as you use 
> your
> phone from within Italy, otherwise you start roaming as your option does
> not apply while you are abroad. If you happen to run out of, say, minutes
> then you call using your basic fare till your option is renewed at the end
> of the period.
> And yes: we belong to that small minority of people in the world
> who don't get charged for incoming calls, wherever they originate in this
> strange planet.

Vast majority in fact. 

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#21260

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2015-07-24 14:32 +0200
Message-ID<motb7v$m7i$2@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#21252
Am 24.07.2015 um 05:22 schrieb Chris Blunt:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:27:54 -0400, "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:06:17 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote:
>>
>>> Hotels depend in their handling (AFAIK) from country to country, in
>>> Germany e.g. I think I never needed an identity card for many years.
>>
>> I remember, in Italy, they *took* my passport from me!
>> I was shocked. It was their *rule*.
>
> So how can people who don't hold passports ever stay at hotels in
> Italy?

Bear in mind that in Europe (other than in the US) most countries have 
an identity card, which serves as the primary identification method 
there. And for travels inside Europe a European hardly ever needs a 
passport, the identity card is sufficient for travelling to most countries.

Best regards,

Michael

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#21263

FromWolfgang Barth <barthwo@spamfence.net>
Date2015-07-24 15:38 +0200
Message-ID<d1etecFvmjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21260
Am 24.07.2015 um 14:32 schrieb Michael Eyd:
>>>
>>>> Hotels depend in their handling (AFAIK) from country to country, in
>>>> Germany e.g. I think I never needed an identity card for many years.
>>>
>>> I remember, in Italy, they *took* my passport from me!
>>> I was shocked. It was their *rule*.
>>
>> So how can people who don't hold passports ever stay at hotels in
>> Italy?
> 
> Bear in mind that in Europe (other than in the US) most countries have
> an identity card, which serves as the primary identification method
> there. And for travels inside Europe a European hardly ever needs a
> passport, the identity card is sufficient for travelling to most countries.
> 
Yes, thats correct. Most people dont have a passport because its only
needed for travel in non-european countries.

I think the drivers licence is used for ID in the US in most cases.

I heard there is a "non-drivers-licence" card for people without drivers
licence. This would be exactly the same than the ID card here.

Wolfgang

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#21267

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-07-24 09:26 -0700
Message-ID<2015072409264041871-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#21263
On 2015-07-24 13:38:15 +0000, Wolfgang Barth <barthwo@spamfence.net> said:

> Am 24.07.2015 um 14:32 schrieb Michael Eyd:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hotels depend in their handling (AFAIK) from country to country, in
>>>>> Germany e.g. I think I never needed an identity card for many years.
>>>> 
>>>> I remember, in Italy, they *took* my passport from me!
>>>> I was shocked. It was their *rule*.
>>> 
>>> So how can people who don't hold passports ever stay at hotels in
>>> Italy?
>> 
>> Bear in mind that in Europe (other than in the US) most countries have
>> an identity card, which serves as the primary identification method
>> there. And for travels inside Europe a European hardly ever needs a
>> passport, the identity card is sufficient for travelling to most countries.
>> 
> Yes, thats correct. Most people dont have a passport because its only
> needed for travel in non-european countries.
> 
> I think the drivers licence is used for ID in the US in most cases.

In the US a drivers licence is the usual photo ID.

> I heard there is a "non-drivers-licence" card for people without drivers
> licence. This would be exactly the same than the ID card here.

For non-drivers who need a photo ID there are usually State ID cards. 
There is no US national ID card. However, there is some political 
movement for one.

Regarding US passports, US citizens have the option to obtain a 
"passport card" in addition to a standard passport. This is used for 
travel between the US, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean countries, and Burmuda 
at land border crossings, or sea ports-of-entry, since the requirements 
for crossing those borders changed from just needing a drivers license 
to having a passport.
<http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/information/card/Difference-Between-Passport-Book-and-Card.html>


-- 


Regards,

Savageduck

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#21285

From"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2015-07-25 13:22 -0400
Message-ID<8bbb0$55b3c5eb$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#21263
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:38:15 +0200, Wolfgang Barth wrote:

> I think the drivers licence is used for ID in the US in most cases.
> 
> I heard there is a "non-drivers-licence" card for people without drivers
> licence. This would be exactly the same than the ID card here.

In California you can have either or both a drivers' license or/and an 
identity card, which look exactly the same, and which use the *same* 
number. 

The only difference is that one is a license and the other is an identity 
card. Both last a few years and expire as a birthday present to you on 
your birthday.

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#21288

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-07-25 11:19 -0700
Message-ID<20150725111932262-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#21285
On 2015-07-25 17:22:51 +0000, "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> said:

> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:38:15 +0200, Wolfgang Barth wrote:
> 
>> I think the drivers licence is used for ID in the US in most cases.
>> 
>> I heard there is a "non-drivers-licence" card for people without drivers
>> licence. This would be exactly the same than the ID card here.
> 
> In California you can have either or both a drivers' license or/and an
> identity card, which look exactly the same, and which use the *same*
> number.
> 
> The only difference is that one is a license and the other is an identity
> card. Both last a few years and expire as a birthday present to you on
> your birthday.

...and if you haven't been particularly naughty, you can renew online.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#21284

From"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2015-07-25 13:17 -0400
Message-ID<12243$55b3c49e$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#21260
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:32:00 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote:

> Bear in mind that in Europe (other than in the US) most countries have
> an identity card, which serves as the primary identification method
> there. And for travels inside Europe a European hardly ever needs a
> passport, the identity card is sufficient for travelling to most
> countries.

It that "identity card" the same as a drivers' license?

By that, I mean most USA citizens "own" an identity card, which is their 
Social Security Card, but nobody carries it around with them.

Almost everyone over about age 16 or 17 (depending on the state) has a 
drivers' license, which is what is used as a de-facto identity card in 
almost all instances.

In some states, they make an identity card, which, by the way, in 
California looks EXACTLY the same as a drivers' license, even down to the 
*same ID number!*, but it isn't a drivers' license.

In fact, as a test, I often show that identity card instead of my 
drivers' license when I rent a car, and they take it all the time, not 
even noticing that it's different.

However, I think very few people have an "identity card" that isn't their 
drivers' license.

Is it the same in Europe?

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#21287

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-07-25 11:18 -0700
Message-ID<2015072511180583873-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#21284
On 2015-07-25 17:17:18 +0000, "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> said:

> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:32:00 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote:
> 
>> Bear in mind that in Europe (other than in the US) most countries have
>> an identity card, which serves as the primary identification method
>> there. And for travels inside Europe a European hardly ever needs a
>> passport, the identity card is sufficient for travelling to most
>> countries.
> 
> It that "identity card" the same as a drivers' license?
> 
> By that, I mean most USA citizens "own" an identity card, which is their
> Social Security Card, but nobody carries it around with them.

Strange, my somewhat wrinkled social security card has the following 
words printed just below my signature:
"FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAX PURPOSES-NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION"

The social security card is not an ID card. It is not remotely a photo 
ID. Most importantly it should never be used as an ID card.

> Almost everyone over about age 16 or 17 (depending on the state) has a
> drivers' license, which is what is used as a de-facto identity card in
> almost all instances.
> 
> In some states, they make an identity card, which, by the way, in
> California looks EXACTLY the same as a drivers' license, even down to the
> *same ID number!*, but it isn't a drivers' license.

Yup! However, the prefix letter is different.

> In fact, as a test, I often show that identity card instead of my
> drivers' license when I rent a car, and they take it all the time, not
> even noticing that it's different.

Then they are idiots.

> However, I think very few people have an "identity card" that isn't their
> drivers' license.

I have two, one of which is in a badge wallet, and which notes my 
status as a retired Lieutenant from a California Law enforcement agency.

> Is it the same in Europe?


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#21294

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2015-07-25 19:47 +0000
Message-ID<d1i7f3Fqh8cU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21284
M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:32:00 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote:
> 
> > Bear in mind that in Europe (other than in the US) most countries have
> > an identity card, which serves as the primary identification method
> > there. And for travels inside Europe a European hardly ever needs a
> > passport, the identity card is sufficient for travelling to most
> > countries.
> 
> It that "identity card" the same as a drivers' license?
> 
> By that, I mean most USA citizens "own" an identity card, which is their 
> Social Security Card, but nobody carries it around with them.
> 
> Almost everyone over about age 16 or 17 (depending on the state) has a 
> drivers' license, which is what is used as a de-facto identity card in 
> almost all instances.
> 
> In some states, they make an identity card, which, by the way, in 
> California looks EXACTLY the same as a drivers' license, even down to the 
> *same ID number!*, but it isn't a drivers' license.
> 
> In fact, as a test, I often show that identity card instead of my 
> drivers' license when I rent a car, and they take it all the time, not 
> even noticing that it's different.
> 
> However, I think very few people have an "identity card" that isn't their 
> drivers' license.
> 
> Is it the same in Europe?

  Contrary to popular belief, there's no such thing as 'Europe' (like,
BTW, there's no such thing as 'the US'), but in many European countries
you always have to be able to identify yourself. That is done with an
identity card or a passport. While often a driver's license is accepted
for identification, it's not an official document for identifying, but
as the name indicates, a *license* to drive something(s).

  I live in The Netherlands. We need to carry an identity card or a
passport. I have a passport, but don't carry it, way too risky to lose
it (and my nice AU entry/exit stamps :-)). Instead, I carry my driver's
license, because I need that anyway. Nobody has ever asked for my ID, so
sofar so good.

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#21409

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2015-07-27 09:46 +0200
Message-ID<mp4nlb$gvc$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#21284
Am 25.07.2015 um 19:17 schrieb M.L.:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:32:00 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote:
>
>> Bear in mind that in Europe (other than in the US) most countries have
>> an identity card, which serves as the primary identification method
>> there. And for travels inside Europe a European hardly ever needs a
>> passport, the identity card is sufficient for travelling to most
>> countries.
>
> It that "identity card" the same as a drivers' license?

No, not at all. For Germany: Two completely different documents, for 
many decades even of completely different formats. In any case they 
serve completely different purposes, and exchangeability is very limited.

> By that, I mean most USA citizens "own" an identity card, which is their
> Social Security Card, but nobody carries it around with them.
>
> Almost everyone over about age 16 or 17 (depending on the state) has a
> drivers' license, which is what is used as a de-facto identity card in
> almost all instances.

A driver's license is not an ID card, though in some situations it will 
be accepted as such (e.g. if only your age is to be checked when buying 
alcoholic beverages, or to verify that you're the person you claim to be 
when acting as a blood donor). In other situations it will not be 
sufficient, e.g. if your address needs to be verified (which is not part 
of the driver's license).

> In some states, they make an identity card, which, by the way, in
> California looks EXACTLY the same as a drivers' license, even down to the
> *same ID number!*, but it isn't a drivers' license.

For Germany: Different numbers. Actually, for decades we even didn't 
have anything like a 'real' number on our driver's licenses, only a list 
number identifying some archived forms from your drivers tests. 
Virtually useless - and many times giving problems trying to rent a car 
in the US... ;-)

> In fact, as a test, I often show that identity card instead of my
> drivers' license when I rent a car, and they take it all the time, not
> even noticing that it's different.

No good here, as it wouldn't prove your license to drive the car in 
question - and the agents here know the difference... ;-)

> However, I think very few people have an "identity card" that isn't their
> drivers' license.
>
> Is it the same in Europe?

No, not in Germany. For Germany, >>90% of all adults can be expected to 
have an ID card, and many even carry it with them all the time (though 
it is not legally required (which many Germans think), it has its 
advantages).

Best regards,

Michael

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#21650

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2015-08-04 03:50 -0400
Message-ID<166agq5991moh$.9mo4cqsa7oqq.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#21284
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:17:18 -0400, M.L. wrote:

> most USA citizens "own" an identity card, which is their 
> Social Security Card ...

It carries no likeness of the citizen, though, i.e., is not "Photo ID" ...

> ... but nobody carries it around with them.

Why carry around ID that's not accepted as ID? the SS card is as useless
for ID as a Voter Registration card is (even my local polling place wants
"Photo ID", not my VR card :-{ ).

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#21660

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-08-04 06:59 -0700
Message-ID<2015080406591521951-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#21650
On 2015-08-04 07:50:09 +0000, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> said:

> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:17:18 -0400, M.L. wrote:
> 
>> most USA citizens "own" an identity card, which is their
>> Social Security Card ...
> 
> It carries no likeness of the citizen, though, i.e., is not "Photo ID" ...
> 
>> ... but nobody carries it around with them.
> 
> Why carry around ID that's not accepted as ID? the SS card is as useless
> for ID as a Voter Registration card is (even my local polling place wants
> "Photo ID", not my VR card :-{ ).

Not only is the SS card useless as ID it is actually illegal for a 
vendor to demand it as ID. So much so that right under the signature 
line are these words:
"FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAX PURPOSES-NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION"

...and which State do you live in that photo ID is required at a polling place?

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#21662

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2015-08-04 16:21 +0200
Message-ID<mpqhon$5fj$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#21660
Am 04.08.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Savageduck:

> ...and which State do you live in that photo ID is required at a polling
> place?

In the US you're not required to prove that you're the one your claiming 
to be at a polling place? Sounds strange to me...

Over here in Germany the rule is rather simple: If you can't prove that 
you're the one who's listed on the voters registration card (like a 
postal card), you won't get anywhere near the ballot box. And the usual 
way for this identification is by means of the ID card, which always is 
a photo ID.

Best regards,

Michael

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#21664

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-08-04 08:52 -0700
Message-ID<2015080408522621545-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#21662
On 2015-08-04 14:21:11 +0000, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> said:

> Am 04.08.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Savageduck:
> 
>> ...and which State do you live in that photo ID is required at a polling
>> place?
> 
> In the US you're not required to prove that you're the one your 
> claiming to be at a polling place? Sounds strange to me...

It depends on the State. In California where I live, once registered to 
vote I have options to vote at my local precinct polling place, which 
for me is within easy walking distance from my home. All that is 
required is to have my name (without ID) checked against the local 
registration roster, and for me to sign that roster.
I can also choose to vote by mail, or as an absentee voter.
There are several different ways to register to vote in California, but 
all are controlled by the office of the California Secretary of State.
<http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voter-registration/>


Different States have different rules for voter registration and actual voting.

> Over here in Germany the rule is rather simple: If you can't prove that 
> you're the one who's listed on the voters registration card (like a 
> postal card), you won't get anywhere near the ballot box. And the usual 
> way for this identification is by means of the ID card, which always is 
> a photo ID.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Michael


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#21677

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 05:30 +1000
Message-ID<d2ci77Ffjk1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21664
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote
> Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote

>>> ...and which State do you live in that photo ID is required at a polling 
>>> place?

>> In the US you're not required to prove that you're the one your claiming 
>> to be at a polling place? Sounds strange to me...

> It depends on the State. In California where I live, once registered to 
> vote I have options to vote at my local precinct polling place, which for 
> me is within easy walking distance from my home. All that is required is 
> to have my name (without ID) checked against the local registration 
> roster, and for me to sign that roster.

We don’t sign anything, a line is rules thru your entry on the register
because here its compulsory to vote and they check that that way.

No ID required at all.

> I can also choose to vote by mail, or as an absentee voter.

Same here. And online now.

> There are several different ways to register to vote in California, but 
> all are controlled by the office of the California Secretary of State.
> <http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voter-registration/>

We do have the electoral roll, but its national not state, and its
organised by the same operation that handles the voting in elections.

> Different States have different rules for voter registration and actual 
> voting.

Ours are all national.

>> Over here in Germany the rule is rather simple: If you can't prove that 
>> you're the one who's listed on the voters registration card (like a 
>> postal card), you won't get anywhere near the ballot box. And the usual 
>> way for this identification is by means of the ID card, which always is a 
>> photo ID.
 

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#21667

FromAxel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De>
Date2015-08-04 19:33 +0200
Message-ID<55C0F755.40329947@B.Maus.De>
In reply to#21662
Michael Eyd wrote:
> Over here in Germany the rule is rather simple: If you can't prove that
> you're the one who's listed on the voters registration card (like a
> postal card), you won't get anywhere near the ballot box. And the usual
> way for this identification is by means of the ID card, which always is
> a photo ID.

Don't mislead the good people here. The voting attendents *can* ask for
ID, in my experience /the experience of decades by now) they never ever
do. I think they ought to avoid fraud, but they don't.

Axel

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#21723

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2015-08-06 09:39 +0200
Message-ID<mpv300$4vm$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#21667
Am 04.08.2015 um 19:33 schrieb Axel Berger:
> Michael Eyd wrote:
>> Over here in Germany the rule is rather simple: If you can't prove that
>> you're the one who's listed on the voters registration card (like a
>> postal card), you won't get anywhere near the ballot box. And the usual
>> way for this identification is by means of the ID card, which always is
>> a photo ID.
>
> Don't mislead the good people here. The voting attendents *can* ask for
> ID, in my experience /the experience of decades by now) they never ever
> do.

AFAIR I have been asked for the ID several times, though most of the 
time I tend to directly display it together with the voters card. If I'm 
voting via mail, then obviously no ID check is performed, only several 
signatures 'prove' that I and I alone voted... ;-)

> I think they ought to avoid fraud, but they don't.

Might depend on the region? Or just (bad) luck?

Best regards,

Michael

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#21673

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 12:17 -0700
Message-ID<mpr30g$aqb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21662
On 08/04/2015 07:21 AM, Michael Eyd wrote:
> Am 04.08.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Savageduck:
>
>> ...and which State do you live in that photo ID is required at a polling
>> place?
>
> In the US you're not required to prove that you're the one your claiming
> to be at a polling place? Sounds strange to me...

Me too, but there it is.  Some claim it's a civil rights thing because 
some people find it difficult to obtain proper documentation even though 
they were born in the US.  I think it's because politicians want to 
toady to illegals in order to get their votes or to increase the number 
of inhabitants of their districts or just because they're shitheads.

If you're not smart enough to figure out how to obtain the proper 
documentation, perhaps you aren't smart enough to even think about 
voting.  Some say that even the hopelessly stupid deserve 
representation, but I think they already have it.

> Over here in Germany the rule is rather simple: If you can't prove that
> you're the one who's listed on the voters registration card (like a
> postal card), you won't get anywhere near the ballot box. And the usual
> way for this identification is by means of the ID card, which always is
> a photo ID.

Good for Deutschland!


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#21681

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 05:41 +1000
Message-ID<d2cir3FfosrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21673
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote 
> Michael Eyd wrote
>> Savageduck wrote

>>> ...and which State do you live in that 
>>> photo ID is required at a polling place?

>> In the US you're not required to prove that you're the one your 
>> claiming to be at a polling place? Sounds strange to me...
 
> Me too, 

Not to anyone in most of the english speaking world. 

> but there it is.  Some claim it's a civil rights thing because some 
> people find it difficult to obtain proper documentation even though 
> they were born in the US.  I think it's because politicians want to 
> toady to illegals in order to get their votes or to increase the number 
> of inhabitants of their districts or just because they're shitheads.

Its actually because those who vote for a particular party 
are rather less likely to have a photo ID. Nothing to do 
with illegals who can get one any time they want one. 
 
> If you're not smart enough to figure out how to obtain the proper 
> documentation, perhaps you aren't smart enough to even think 
> about voting.  Some say that even the hopelessly stupid deserve 
> representation, but I think they already have it.

>> Over here in Germany the rule is rather simple: If you can't prove that
>> you're the one who's listed on the voters registration card (like a
>> postal card), you won't get anywhere near the ballot box. And the usual
>> way for this identification is by means of the ID card, which always is
>> a photo ID.
 
> Good for Deutschland!

Even sillier than you usually manage. And he lied about that anyway.  

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