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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?

Started byChris Blunt <mail@nospam.com>
First post2015-07-22 13:48 +0800
Last post2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
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  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2015-07-22 13:48 +0800
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:29 +1000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:32 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 05:38 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:45 -0400

#21116 — Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?

FromChris Blunt <mail@nospam.com>
Date2015-07-22 13:48 +0800
SubjectRe: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?
Message-ID<aiauqa925sj4aqo165uaupn16lojhv7crp@4ax.com>
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Is my experience normal in that, in Europe, both the Hotels and Phone
>> companies required my passport
>
>Not if you don’t say that you are a foreigner
>or get a local to get the SIM for you.
>
>> (never in the USA have I been required to have a passport).
>
>Some jurisdictions do require some ID but it
>isn't that hard to circumvent that requirement. 

That's true, but you better be sure you trust the person you are
allowing to register a SIM card in your name. If it's later found to
have been used to carry out some illegal activity the authorities are
going to come knocking on your door.

Chris

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#21177

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-23 08:29 +1000
Message-ID<d1ajqnFtbnvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21116
Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> wrote 
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Is my experience normal in that, in Europe, both the 
>>> Hotels and Phone companies required my passport

>> Not if you don't say that you are a foreigner
>> or get a local to get the SIM for you.

>>> (never in the USA have I been required to have a passport).

>> Some jurisdictions do require some ID but it
>> isn't that hard to circumvent that requirement. 
 
> That's true, but you better be sure you trust the person 
> you are allowing to register a SIM card in your name. 

I wasn't talking about getting someone else to register
the SIM in your name. 

> If it's later found to have been used to carry out some illegal activity 
> the authorities are going to come knocking on your door.

They can't if you circumvent the ID requirement yourself
and there is no way to trace that SIM to you.  

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#21286

From"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2015-07-25 13:32 -0400
Message-ID<e7623$55b3c818$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#21177
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:29:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> They can't if you circumvent the ID requirement yourself and there is no
> way to trace that SIM to you.

Of course, when you buy the sim, you need to use cash, and you need to 
hide from the store cameras and you probably shouldn't turn the phone on 
at home, etc..

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#21293

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-26 05:38 +1000
Message-ID<d1i6tfFqd64U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21286

"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in message 
news:e7623$55b3c818$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com...
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:29:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> They can't if you circumvent the ID requirement yourself and there is no
>> way to trace that SIM to you.

> Of course, when you buy the sim, you need to use cash,

No, there are plenty of cards which have no association with your identity.

> and you need to hide from the store cameras and you
> probably shouldn't turn the phone on at home, etc..

No reason why you can't, it isn't necessarily your home. 

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#21338

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
Message-ID<250720152045013271%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#21286
In article
<e7623$55b3c818$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, M.L.
<me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> Of course, when you buy the sim, you need to use cash, and you need to 
> hide from the store cameras and you probably shouldn't turn the phone on 
> at home, etc..

stock up on tin foil

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