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| Started by | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-07-25 22:43 -0700 |
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Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 22:43 -0700
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 14:33 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 22:50 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 09:21 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 10:23 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-28 08:01 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 10:28 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 12:27 -0700
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 21:17 +0100
SOLVED -- Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 14:08 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 10:42 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 17:09 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 10:21 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-08-02 19:51 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 21:32 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 11:13 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:34 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-04 19:26 +0200
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:15 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-08-03 15:06 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:37 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:59 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem John B. Slocomb <johnbslocomb@geemail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:51 +0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:03 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem John B. Slocomb <johnbslocomb@geemail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:59 +0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:15 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 20:50 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:33 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 10:39 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:56 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:18 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:39 -0400
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:58 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-08-06 14:58 +0100
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:16 -0700
Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:39 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 09:26 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 10:34 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 11:05 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 14:03 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 14:07 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 17:05 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 17:40 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 18:23 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 09:59 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 10:49 +0100
Re: Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 17:10 +0100
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-03 09:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mpo59e$upp$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21627 |
On 08/03/2015 07:06 AM, Daniel James wrote: > In article <mpmqqn$bs8$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote: >>> Seriously? You PAY to receive SMS messages? And you're not roaming? >> >> This is special. > > OK ... so you're saying that most subscribers on tariffs that aren't > similarly special don't pay to receive SMS (text) messages? > > In the UK, text messages were free (to send and to receive) for a long > time, then the mobile phone companies started to charge for sending > (but not receiving) them at typically around 5p or 10p a message, and > then they started to include some number of messages in any > contract/PAYG agreement. Typically, nowadays, any but the cheapest > contract includes "Unlimited" text messages, so the wheel has just > about turned full circle. > >>> What does^Wwould it cost you to send an SMS? >> >> I don't understand the question. > > Sorry. Please read that as: > > What does it cost you to send an SMS (or rather what would it cost you, > as I guess you don't use SMS much)? > > That ^W between "does" and "would" in my earlier post means "delete > previous word" ... it's a geeky way of writing "does or rather would". > > Apologies for the confusion. OK, but there will be consequences... 10 cents to send or receive. The only ones I ever needed were when I was babysitting for my grandspawn and they needed to ask me to pick them up. Since they're 18 and 22 now, I suspect I won't be needing that much any more :-( -- Cheers, Bev "As a mortician I always tie the shoelaces of the dead together. If there actually is a zombie apocalypse it will be hilarious."
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 09:59 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mppupq$qkd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21629 |
On 03/08/2015 17:37, The Real Bev wrote: > On 08/03/2015 07:06 AM, Daniel James wrote: >> In article <mpmqqn$bs8$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote: >>>> Seriously? You PAY to receive SMS messages? And you're not roaming? >>> >>> This is special. >> >> OK ... so you're saying that most subscribers on tariffs that aren't >> similarly special don't pay to receive SMS (text) messages? >> >> In the UK, text messages were free (to send and to receive) for a long >> time, then the mobile phone companies started to charge for sending >> (but not receiving) them at typically around 5p or 10p a message, and >> then they started to include some number of messages in any >> contract/PAYG agreement. Typically, nowadays, any but the cheapest >> contract includes "Unlimited" text messages, so the wheel has just >> about turned full circle. >> >>>> What does^Wwould it cost you to send an SMS? >>> >>> I don't understand the question. >> >> Sorry. Please read that as: >> >> What does it cost you to send an SMS (or rather what would it cost you, >> as I guess you don't use SMS much)? >> >> That ^W between "does" and "would" in my earlier post means "delete >> previous word" ... it's a geeky way of writing "does or rather would". >> >> Apologies for the confusion. > > OK, but there will be consequences... > > 10 cents to send or receive. That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. Ouch! I guess that's what light-touch regulation gets you. Across the EU (and most countries around the world, I think Thailand is another exception) receiving SMSs via a mobile operator (not special internet or 3rd party arrangements) is always free regardless of where you are.
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| From | John B. Slocomb <johnbslocomb@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 17:51 +0700 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <o161sal9fg7rmoejuqvrlq4r92d9oo10rv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #21653 |
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:59:24 +0100, chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >On 03/08/2015 17:37, The Real Bev wrote: >> On 08/03/2015 07:06 AM, Daniel James wrote: >>> In article <mpmqqn$bs8$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote: >>>>> Seriously? You PAY to receive SMS messages? And you're not roaming? >>>> >>>> This is special. >>> >>> OK ... so you're saying that most subscribers on tariffs that aren't >>> similarly special don't pay to receive SMS (text) messages? >>> >>> In the UK, text messages were free (to send and to receive) for a long >>> time, then the mobile phone companies started to charge for sending >>> (but not receiving) them at typically around 5p or 10p a message, and >>> then they started to include some number of messages in any >>> contract/PAYG agreement. Typically, nowadays, any but the cheapest >>> contract includes "Unlimited" text messages, so the wheel has just >>> about turned full circle. >>> >>>>> What does^Wwould it cost you to send an SMS? >>>> >>>> I don't understand the question. >>> >>> Sorry. Please read that as: >>> >>> What does it cost you to send an SMS (or rather what would it cost you, >>> as I guess you don't use SMS much)? >>> >>> That ^W between "does" and "would" in my earlier post means "delete >>> previous word" ... it's a geeky way of writing "does or rather would". >>> >>> Apologies for the confusion. >> >> OK, but there will be consequences... >> >> 10 cents to send or receive. > >That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid >both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. >Ouch! I guess that's what light-touch regulation gets you. > >Across the EU (and most countries around the world, I think Thailand is >another exception) receiving SMSs via a mobile operator (not special >internet or 3rd party arrangements) is always free regardless of where >you are. Nope, Thailand doesn't charge for incoming SMS. Singapore charges for both sides of a call and likely does the same for SMS. Malaysia, I believe charges only for outgoing although I've not used a phone there in years. -- cheers, John B.
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 12:03 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mpq62c$k29$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21655 |
On 04/08/2015 11:51, John B. Slocomb wrote: > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:59:24 +0100, chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 03/08/2015 17:37, The Real Bev wrote: >>> On 08/03/2015 07:06 AM, Daniel James wrote: >>>> In article <mpmqqn$bs8$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote: >>>>>> Seriously? You PAY to receive SMS messages? And you're not roaming? >>>>> >>>>> This is special. >>>> >>>> OK ... so you're saying that most subscribers on tariffs that aren't >>>> similarly special don't pay to receive SMS (text) messages? >>>> >>>> In the UK, text messages were free (to send and to receive) for a long >>>> time, then the mobile phone companies started to charge for sending >>>> (but not receiving) them at typically around 5p or 10p a message, and >>>> then they started to include some number of messages in any >>>> contract/PAYG agreement. Typically, nowadays, any but the cheapest >>>> contract includes "Unlimited" text messages, so the wheel has just >>>> about turned full circle. >>>> >>>>>> What does^Wwould it cost you to send an SMS? >>>>> >>>>> I don't understand the question. >>>> >>>> Sorry. Please read that as: >>>> >>>> What does it cost you to send an SMS (or rather what would it cost you, >>>> as I guess you don't use SMS much)? >>>> >>>> That ^W between "does" and "would" in my earlier post means "delete >>>> previous word" ... it's a geeky way of writing "does or rather would". >>>> >>>> Apologies for the confusion. >>> >>> OK, but there will be consequences... >>> >>> 10 cents to send or receive. >> >> That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid >> both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. >> Ouch! I guess that's what light-touch regulation gets you. >> >> Across the EU (and most countries around the world, I think Thailand is >> another exception) receiving SMSs via a mobile operator (not special >> internet or 3rd party arrangements) is always free regardless of where >> you are. > > Nope, Thailand doesn't charge for incoming SMS. Singapore charges for > both sides of a call and likely does the same for SMS. Malaysia, I > believe charges only for outgoing although I've not used a phone there > in years. Ah, thanks. I was in Singapore a couple of years ago and I'm pretty sure I wasn't charged for receiving SMSs whilst roaming (maybe local SIMs are different?). I was for calls, but that's std when roaming - I tended to skype rather than use the phone for calls.
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| From | John B. Slocomb <johnbslocomb@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 08:59 +0700 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <6ro2sa589sikebm58u1e7ft3vmsbiotdgo@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #21656 |
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:03:26 +0100, chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >On 04/08/2015 11:51, John B. Slocomb wrote: >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:59:24 +0100, chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 03/08/2015 17:37, The Real Bev wrote: >>>> On 08/03/2015 07:06 AM, Daniel James wrote: >>>>> In article <mpmqqn$bs8$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote: >>>>>>> Seriously? You PAY to receive SMS messages? And you're not roaming? >>>>>> >>>>>> This is special. >>>>> >>>>> OK ... so you're saying that most subscribers on tariffs that aren't >>>>> similarly special don't pay to receive SMS (text) messages? >>>>> >>>>> In the UK, text messages were free (to send and to receive) for a long >>>>> time, then the mobile phone companies started to charge for sending >>>>> (but not receiving) them at typically around 5p or 10p a message, and >>>>> then they started to include some number of messages in any >>>>> contract/PAYG agreement. Typically, nowadays, any but the cheapest >>>>> contract includes "Unlimited" text messages, so the wheel has just >>>>> about turned full circle. >>>>> >>>>>>> What does^Wwould it cost you to send an SMS? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't understand the question. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry. Please read that as: >>>>> >>>>> What does it cost you to send an SMS (or rather what would it cost you, >>>>> as I guess you don't use SMS much)? >>>>> >>>>> That ^W between "does" and "would" in my earlier post means "delete >>>>> previous word" ... it's a geeky way of writing "does or rather would". >>>>> >>>>> Apologies for the confusion. >>>> >>>> OK, but there will be consequences... >>>> >>>> 10 cents to send or receive. >>> >>> That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid >>> both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. >>> Ouch! I guess that's what light-touch regulation gets you. >>> >>> Across the EU (and most countries around the world, I think Thailand is >>> another exception) receiving SMSs via a mobile operator (not special >>> internet or 3rd party arrangements) is always free regardless of where >>> you are. >> >> Nope, Thailand doesn't charge for incoming SMS. Singapore charges for >> both sides of a call and likely does the same for SMS. Malaysia, I >> believe charges only for outgoing although I've not used a phone there >> in years. > >Ah, thanks. I was in Singapore a couple of years ago and I'm pretty sure >I wasn't charged for receiving SMSs whilst roaming (maybe local SIMs are >different?). I was for calls, but that's std when roaming - I tended to >skype rather than use the phone for calls. > Roaming may be different, I don't know as I don't use it since roaming using my Thailand pre-paid account is prohibitively expensive. In Singapore I just go down to 7-11 and buy a Singapore SIM and use that. S$10.00 usually lasts me through a week stay. -- cheers, John B.
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| From | J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 15:15 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <7cd2sa966tivsdblbasrsl0bc501fqc959@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #21653 |
chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >On 03/08/2015 17:37, The Real Bev wrote: >> 10 cents to send or receive. > >That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid >both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. >Ouch! I guess that's what light-touch regulation gets you. It's nice to have a diversity of plans to choose from. If you want a very inexpensive plan you can give up certain plan benefits such as free/unlimited texts. >Across the EU (and most countries around the world, I think Thailand is >another exception) receiving SMSs via a mobile operator (not special >internet or 3rd party arrangements) is always free regardless of where >you are. I'll bet you can't get service as cheap as the Bev does. My US plan gives unlimited talk/text/roaming (and not just around a tiny island). But it costs several times what the Bev pays. Again, choice is a good thing...
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 20:50 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mps12m$a78$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21683 |
On 08/04/2015 03:15 PM, J0HNS0N wrote: > chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On 03/08/2015 17:37, The Real Bev wrote: > >>> 10 cents to send or receive. >> >>That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid >>both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. >>Ouch! I guess that's what light-touch regulation gets you. > > It's nice to have a diversity of plans to choose from. If you want a > very inexpensive plan you can give up certain plan benefits such as > free/unlimited texts. > >>Across the EU (and most countries around the world, I think Thailand is >>another exception) receiving SMSs via a mobile operator (not special >>internet or 3rd party arrangements) is always free regardless of where >>you are. > > I'll bet you can't get service as cheap as the Bev does. > > My US plan gives unlimited talk/text/roaming (and not just around a > tiny island). But it costs several times what the Bev pays. For $30/year? Wow! > Again, choice is a good thing... My $10/year plan is no longer available, but previous users are grandfathered in... for a while, I assume. -- Cheers, Bev ======================================================== If I gave a shit, you'd be the first one I'd give it to.
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 09:33 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mpv61h$jp3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21683 |
On 04/08/2015 23:15, J0HNS0N wrote: > chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 03/08/2015 17:37, The Real Bev wrote: > >>> 10 cents to send or receive. >> >> That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid >> both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. >> Ouch! I guess that's what light-touch regulation gets you. > > It's nice to have a diversity of plans to choose from. If you want a > very inexpensive plan you can give up certain plan benefits such as > free/unlimited texts. Sure. > >> Across the EU (and most countries around the world, I think Thailand is >> another exception) receiving SMSs via a mobile operator (not special >> internet or 3rd party arrangements) is always free regardless of where >> you are. > > I'll bet you can't get service as cheap as the Bev does. I think I can. Three UK have a PAYG plan (i.e. no yearly fee) where SMSs, calls and data are charged at 3p, 2p, 1p/MB respectively. Seeing as Bev hardly uses her phone (<30 min/pa) you'd get decent amount of usage for the equivalent cost. Calls and SMSs received are free, of course. I get by on ~£5 pm and that's almost all data via 4G. If I could break my twitter habit, I'd probably get by on £20 pa > > My US plan gives unlimited talk/text/roaming (and not just around a > tiny island). But it costs several times what the Bev pays. > > Again, choice is a good thing... Agreed. The US is not unique.
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 10:39 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <d2go81Fgk3mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #21725 |
On 06/08/2015 09:33, chris wrote: > On 04/08/2015 23:15, J0HNS0N wrote: >> >> I'll bet you can't get service as cheap as the Bev does. > > I think I can. Three UK have a PAYG plan (i.e. no yearly fee) where > SMSs, calls and data are charged at 3p, 2p, 1p/MB respectively. Seeing > as Bev hardly uses her phone (<30 min/pa) you'd get decent amount of > usage for the equivalent cost. Calls and SMSs received are free, of course. > > I get by on ~£5 pm and that's almost all data via 4G. If I could break > my twitter habit, I'd probably get by on £20 pa > I also use '3' PAYG. I've still got over £2 credit left from the £10 top-up which I did about 2 years ago! But I hardly ever use it for data - only accessing the internet when WiFi is available. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 11:56 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mpveee$5l7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21730 |
On 06/08/2015 10:39, Roger Mills wrote: > On 06/08/2015 09:33, chris wrote: >> On 04/08/2015 23:15, J0HNS0N wrote: > >>> >>> I'll bet you can't get service as cheap as the Bev does. >> >> I think I can. Three UK have a PAYG plan (i.e. no yearly fee) where >> SMSs, calls and data are charged at 3p, 2p, 1p/MB respectively. Seeing >> as Bev hardly uses her phone (<30 min/pa) you'd get decent amount of >> usage for the equivalent cost. Calls and SMSs received are free, of >> course. >> >> I get by on ~£5 pm and that's almost all data via 4G. If I could break >> my twitter habit, I'd probably get by on £20 pa >> > > I also use '3' PAYG. I've still got over £2 credit left from the £10 > top-up which I did about 2 years ago! > > But I hardly ever use it for data - only accessing the internet when > WiFi is available. I'd use wifi if my bus company provided it. The 'other' company does, but the route is not as convenient for me. At home/work I only use wifi.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 12:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mq0br0$p2d$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21730 |
On 08/06/2015 02:39 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 06/08/2015 09:33, chris wrote:
>> On 04/08/2015 23:15, J0HNS0N wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll bet you can't get service as cheap as the Bev does.
>>
>> I think I can. Three UK have a PAYG plan (i.e. no yearly fee) where
>> SMSs, calls and data are charged at 3p, 2p, 1p/MB respectively. Seeing
>> as Bev hardly uses her phone (<30 min/pa) you'd get decent amount of
>> usage for the equivalent cost. Calls and SMSs received are free, of course.
>>
>> I get by on ~£5 pm and that's almost all data via 4G. If I could break
>> my twitter habit, I'd probably get by on £20 pa
>
> I also use '3' PAYG. I've still got over £2 credit left from the £10
> top-up which I did about 2 years ago!
>
> But I hardly ever use it for data - only accessing the internet when
> WiFi is available.
The only time I miss data connectivity is on the road -- Being able to
google whenever you want to is definitely valuable -- but not THAT
valuable :-( OSMand is useful ("Where is the closest Costco?") but limited.
--
Cheers, Bev
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The people who don't know what they're doing and the people who
don't realize it are generally the same people." -- DAbel
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 04:39 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <17m96x2je3up1$.bw9cgsgqxehe.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #21653 |
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:59:24 +0100, chris wrote of: >> 10 cents to send or receive. > > That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid > both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. Think of it: an SMS is at most 160 bytes, 1280 bits. At 10 cents each twice over (once as sent, the other as received) that's 20 cents for < 1281 bits, a data gross earnings rate in excess of 15 cents per 1000 bits, or roughly $150/Mb, $150,000 Gb. Pretty profitable, when data as mere data is metered at closer to $15/GB by many PaYGo data plans around the world :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 11:58 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <mpveh2$5l7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21726 |
On 06/08/2015 09:39, tlvp wrote: > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:59:24 +0100, chris wrote of: > >>> 10 cents to send or receive. >> >> That's a nice racket the US telcos are running over there. Being paid >> both to send & to receive SMSs - for every SMS sent two fees are paid. > > Think of it: an SMS is at most 160 bytes, 1280 bits. At 10 cents each twice > over (once as sent, the other as received) that's 20 cents for < 1281 bits, > a data gross earnings rate in excess of 15 cents per 1000 bits, or roughly > $150/Mb, $150,000 Gb. Pretty profitable, when data as mere data is metered > at closer to $15/GB by many PaYGo data plans around the world :-) . That's even worse! Great to have choice and screw yourself over for the benefit of telcos...
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| From | Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 14:58 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <VA.00000ab6.1420e7a0@me.invalid> |
| In reply to | #21726 |
In article <17m96x2je3up1$.bw9cgsgqxehe.dlg@40tude.net>, Tlvp wrote: > Think of it: an SMS is at most 160 bytes, 1280 bits. It's worse than that. SMS is actually at most 140 "octets". 140 8-bit bytes, which correspond to 160 characters if you use a 7-bit encoding. So it's actually 1120 bits per SMS. 20 cents for 1120 bits works out at around about $178,500 per GB. -- Cheers, Daniel.
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| From | J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 12:16 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <kkb7sad21sf78p9kvusk5vm64gu3hmo8uu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #21742 |
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:58:18 +0100, Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> wrote: >In article <17m96x2je3up1$.bw9cgsgqxehe.dlg@40tude.net>, Tlvp wrote: >> Think of it: an SMS is at most 160 bytes, 1280 bits. > >It's worse than that. SMS is actually at most 140 "octets". 140 8-bit >bytes, which correspond to 160 characters if you use a 7-bit encoding. > >So it's actually 1120 bits per SMS. > >20 cents for 1120 bits works out at around about $178,500 per GB. But that's being a little bit silly isn't it? Those who go for that type of plan likely don't use SMS all that much and a per text price may actually be cheaper for them than getting a more expensive plan. Years ago I lived on a 100 minute/month voice plan. If I went over it was around 50 cents a minute. Course I made sure never to go over and in the end actually saved money using that type of plan. But I suppose if I were being silly I could say that the phone company could make $178,500 off me if I talked a lot... ;)
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 07:39 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SOLVED -- Motorola Moto G 2nd Gen Phone-Answering Problem |
| Message-ID | <d2j243F3jphU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #21777 |
On 06/08/2015 20:16, J0HNS0N wrote: > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:58:18 +0100, Daniel James<daniel@me.invalid> > wrote: > >> In article<17m96x2je3up1$.bw9cgsgqxehe.dlg@40tude.net>, Tlvp wrote: >>> Think of it: an SMS is at most 160 bytes, 1280 bits. >> >> It's worse than that. SMS is actually at most 140 "octets". 140 8-bit >> bytes, which correspond to 160 characters if you use a 7-bit encoding. >> >> So it's actually 1120 bits per SMS. >> >> 20 cents for 1120 bits works out at around about $178,500 per GB. > > But that's being a little bit silly isn't it? Those who go for that > type of plan likely don't use SMS all that much and a per text price > may actually be cheaper for them than getting a more expensive plan. > I don't think anyone was suggesting that any individual would incur that sort of cost - but rather that telcos are making a killing out of customers collectively by charging for texts in that way (compared with charges for data in general). -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-28 09:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mp7e86$e9i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21428 |
On 27/07/2015 19:18, The Real Bev wrote: > On 07/27/2015 06:33 AM, chris wrote: >> On 26/07/2015 21:41, The Real Bev wrote: >>> On 07/26/2015 02:17 AM, Roger Mills wrote: >>>> On 26/07/2015 06:43, The Real Bev wrote: >>>> What version of Android are you running? Mine's on 5.0.2 >>> >>> Same. >> >> I have a Moto G 4G on 4.4.2 and mostly my experience is like Roger. > > Mine updated as soon as I started it the first time. I wish. I bought mine with a 'Guaranteed upgrade to Lollipop' in February. Still waiting for the teleco to push the upgrade... <sigh> :( There's a fundamental flaw in the Android upgrade model. Telcos should not be the gatekeepers for when and if you get upgrades. With the plethora of unpatched bugs in all versions of Android it's only a question of time before it all blows up and the market gets regulated. Apple have done it right with iOS. I just wish an iPhone wasn't so, so expensive.
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-28 10:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d1p0k0Fgt0aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #21489 |
On 28/07/2015 09:26, chris wrote: > > I bought mine with a 'Guaranteed upgrade to Lollipop' in February. Still > waiting for the teleco to push the upgrade... <sigh> :( > > There's a fundamental flaw in the Android upgrade model. Telcos should > not be the gatekeepers for when and if you get upgrades. With the > plethora of unpatched bugs in all versions of Android it's only a > question of time before it all blows up and the market gets regulated. > Surely the upgrade is triggered by the manufacturer (Motorola in this case) rather than the telco. Otherwise, how would things like my Nexus 10 tablet - which has no SIM card slot and therefore no associated telco - ever get upgraded? The invitation to upgrade seems a bit hit and miss. It came with my Nexus tablet much sooner than with my Moto G phone. And it came later still to my wife's older (first generation) Moto G - and she still hasn't upgraded. Maybe it varies with model and market area. I'm not sure where you are. I'm in the UK. And your phone is the 4G model whilst mine is the dual SIM 3G model. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-28 11:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mp7k35$3qs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21493 |
On 28/07/2015 10:34, Roger Mills wrote: > On 28/07/2015 09:26, chris wrote: > >> >> I bought mine with a 'Guaranteed upgrade to Lollipop' in February. Still >> waiting for the teleco to push the upgrade... <sigh> :( >> >> There's a fundamental flaw in the Android upgrade model. Telcos should >> not be the gatekeepers for when and if you get upgrades. With the >> plethora of unpatched bugs in all versions of Android it's only a >> question of time before it all blows up and the market gets regulated. >> > > Surely the upgrade is triggered by the manufacturer (Motorola in this > case) rather than the telco. Otherwise, how would things like my Nexus > 10 tablet - which has no SIM card slot and therefore no associated telco > - ever get upgraded? Nexus devices are unique in that they sold by, and get their updates directly from, Google. > The invitation to upgrade seems a bit hit and miss. It came with my > Nexus tablet much sooner than with my Moto G phone. And it came later > still to my wife's older (first generation) Moto G - and she still > hasn't upgraded. Did you get your phone from an operator (if so which one?) or from Motorola directly? > Maybe it varies with model and market area. I'm not sure where you are. > I'm in the UK. And your phone is the 4G model whilst mine is the dual > SIM 3G model. I'm UK also. I bought mine from Three on PAYG. According to the forums the hold up is due to Three's 'security procedures'. Yeah, I don't believe it either. I wonder at what point I can sue them for breach of contract? I specifically bought that phone and from Three because of the guaranteed upgrade.
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| From | chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-29 14:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mpaisf$et9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #21494 |
On 28/07/2015 18:35, Roger Mills wrote: > On 28/07/2015 14:54, chris wrote: >> On 28/07/2015 14:21, Roger Mills wrote: > >> >>> Silly question: I assume that you regularly check for upgrades rather >>> than waiting for a message to appear spontaneously? >> >> Yup. >> > > In case you haven't seen this on the Motorola site, it might provide a > clue as to what's happening - although it doesn't seem to show buying > the phone from '3' as an option! > > https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1994 Thanks. That's even more depressing. Presumably Three aren't on there due to not currently offering upgrades. All the other networks have got their arse in gear whereas Three hasn't... :(
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