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Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting

Started byPoutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
First post2015-07-20 14:10 +0200
Last post2015-08-06 17:24 +0200
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  Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 14:10 +0200
    Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-07-20 13:08 +0000
    Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-20 09:58 -0700
    Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-03 19:48 -0400
      Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 01:58 +0200
        Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-08-04 10:46 +0100
          Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:06 +0200
            Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-08-05 15:59 +0100
              Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 17:45 +0200
                Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-08-06 14:58 +0100
                  Re: Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 17:24 +0200

#21077 — Order of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting

FromPoutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-20 14:10 +0200
SubjectOrder of microUSB charger connecting/disconnecting
Message-ID<moioc6$r54$1@dont-email.me>
I read time by time contradictory advices for the order of microUSB
(referred as uUSB ) charger connecting/disconnecting.

I mean it in context of durability of Android devices
and their uUSB versatile connectors, wrt to transient effects.

Some advices say to connect/disconnect the charger from the grid first,
other advices say to connect/disconnect the uUSB first,
other ones say to connect the microUSB first,
but disconnect charger first.

Connecting charger first / disconnecting uUSB first
may speak for avoiding eventual voltage shocks
due transient states of charger (dis)connecting.

Disconnecting charger first / connecting uUSB first
may speak for avoiding microUSB connector wearing out
due eventual micro sparks, especially at disconnecting.
Some users says uUSB pins can get even burnt by these effects.

As I am not an expert on wearing out factors in electronics,
I would like to hear opinions in context of uUSB charged devices,
eventually in general context of related electronics.


-- 
Poutnik

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#21079

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2015-07-20 13:08 +0000
Message-ID<moirst$6u9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21077
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:07 +0200, Poutnik wrote:

> I read time by time contradictory advices for the order of microUSB
> (referred as uUSB ) charger connecting/disconnecting.
> 
> I mean it in context of durability of Android devices and their uUSB
> versatile connectors, wrt to transient effects.

My experience is to plug and unplug the same device (S3) from the microUSB
port multiple times a day for 2+ years without issue. I rarely unplug
or turn off the wall wart (or computer connection depending on which
charger I'm using).

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#21083

FromJ0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com>
Date2015-07-20 09:58 -0700
Message-ID<em9qqa9g4f54a2hk69hvo1948k4k1dkdo2@4ax.com>
In reply to#21077
Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> wrote:

>As I am not an expert on wearing out factors in electronics,
>I would like to hear opinions in context of uUSB charged devices,
>eventually in general context of related electronics.

I certainly am no expert. But in my case I've never worried about all
that. Most of my chargers stay plugged in for convenience. Never had a
problem. Even had a cheap Target charger fail once and the phone
screen was blinking off and on when I found it. Still no device
damage. IMO it's a big PITA worry about that kind of thing but YMMV.

BTW I've never had a device fail (knocks on wood). It has always
become obsolete first, or I just wanted a new one. Usually within 2
years or so.

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#21635

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2015-08-03 19:48 -0400
Message-ID<km18po6axn4n$.1dl6nipqzbbtf$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#21077
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:07 +0200, Poutnik wrote:

> ... time by time ...

Kindly allow me to suggest "from time to time" :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#21636

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 01:58 +0200
Message-ID<mpov3k$8mp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21635
Dne 04/08/2015 v 01:48 tlvp napsal(a):
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:07 +0200, Poutnik wrote:
> 
>> ... time by time ...
> 
> Kindly allow me to suggest "from time to time" :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
> 
Or occasionally, not to be in doubt... :-)

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#21654

FromDaniel James <daniel@me.invalid>
Date2015-08-04 10:46 +0100
Message-ID<VA.00000ab3.08edab5f@me.invalid>
In reply to#21636
In article <mpov3k$8mp$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 04/08/2015 v 01:48 tlvp napsal(a):
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:07 +0200, Poutnik wrote:
>> 
>>> ... time by time ...
>> 
>> Kindly allow me to suggest "from time to time" :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
> 
> Or occasionally, not to be in doubt... :-)

Or just "sometimes", which sounds more natural to my ears.

-- 
Cheers,
 Daniel.
 

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#21657

FromPoutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 13:06 +0200
Message-ID<mpq683$kcn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21654
On 08/04/2015 11:46 AM, Daniel James wrote:
> In article <mpov3k$8mp$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
>> Dne 04/08/2015 v 01:48 tlvp napsal(a):
>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:07 +0200, Poutnik wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... time by time ...
>>>
>>> Kindly allow me to suggest "from time to time" :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
>>
>> Or occasionally, not to be in doubt... :-)
> 
> Or just "sometimes", which sounds more natural to my ears.
> 

Does not put sometimes less stress on re-occurrence ?

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#21691

FromDaniel James <daniel@me.invalid>
Date2015-08-05 15:59 +0100
Message-ID<VA.00000ab4.0f3231a1@me.invalid>
In reply to#21657
In article <mpq683$kcn$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
> On 08/04/2015 11:46 AM, Daniel James wrote:
>> In article <mpov3k$8mp$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
>>> Dne 04/08/2015 v 01:48 tlvp napsal(a):
>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:07 +0200, Poutnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... time by time ...
>>>>
>>>> Kindly allow me to suggest "from time to time" :-) . Cheers, -- 
tlvp
>>>
>>> Or occasionally, not to be in doubt... :-)
>> 
>> Or just "sometimes", which sounds more natural to my ears.
> 
> Does not put sometimes less stress on re-occurrence ?

No, not at all.

I certainly wouldn't use "sometimes" to describe something that only 
happened once.

-- 
Cheers,
 Daniel.
 


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#21692

FromPoutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 17:45 +0200
Message-ID<mptavb$v3s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21691
On 08/05/2015 04:59 PM, Daniel James wrote:
> In article <mpq683$kcn$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
>> On 08/04/2015 11:46 AM, Daniel James wrote:
>>> In article <mpov3k$8mp$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
>>>> Dne 04/08/2015 v 01:48 tlvp napsal(a):
>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:10:07 +0200, Poutnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... time by time ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindly allow me to suggest "from time to time" :-) . Cheers, -- 
> tlvp
>>>>
>>>> Or occasionally, not to be in doubt... :-)
>>>
>>> Or just "sometimes", which sounds more natural to my ears.
>>
>> Does not put sometimes less stress on re-occurrence ?
> 
> No, not at all.
> 
> I certainly wouldn't use "sometimes" to describe something that only 
> happened once.
> 

Less stress does not mean exclusion.


-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#21741

FromDaniel James <daniel@me.invalid>
Date2015-08-06 14:58 +0100
Message-ID<VA.00000ab5.1420e6b9@me.invalid>
In reply to#21692
In article <mptavb$v3s$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
>> I certainly wouldn't use "sometimes" to describe something that only 
>> happened once.
> 
> 
> Less stress does not mean exclusion.

No, it doesn't.

Perhaps you are misunderstanding the meaning of "certainly" in my reply?

-- 
Cheers,
 Daniel.
 

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#21750

FromPoutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-06 17:24 +0200
Message-ID<mpvu44$2is$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21741
On 08/06/2015 03:58 PM, Daniel James wrote:
> In article <mptavb$v3s$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik wrote:
>>> I certainly wouldn't use "sometimes" to describe something that only 
>>> happened once.
>>
>>
>> Less stress does not mean exclusion.
> 
> No, it doesn't.
> 
> Perhaps you are misunderstanding the meaning of "certainly" in my reply?
> 

I do not suppose so, but I may have been confused
by turning to one time events.

As I would use sometimes to describe something that happens only once,
if it was not intention to happen justy once.

there may be opportuunity to happen once, twice, or more times.

but all taht may be fine tuning the meaning and word play,
and I may not get all that correcly as not native.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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