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| Started by | Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> |
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| First post | 2015-07-22 10:06 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-07-23 08:39 +1000 |
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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 10:06 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:23 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:56 +1000
anonymous sims in EU (was: Who pays for a phone..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-07-23 20:21 +0200
Re: anonymous sims in EU tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-03 20:04 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 03:22 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:27 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 17:00 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:26 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:00 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:22 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-22 10:07 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:06 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2015-07-22 13:13 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:08 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2015-07-24 11:22 +0800
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 14:36 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:12 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:34 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 16:58 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 17:51 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 09:57 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-24 14:32 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Wolfgang Barth <barthwo@spamfence.net> - 2015-07-24 15:38 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-24 09:26 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:22 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-25 11:19 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:17 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-25 11:18 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:47 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 09:46 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 03:50 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 06:59 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-04 16:21 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 08:52 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:30 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-04 19:33 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-06 09:39 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:17 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:41 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-04 17:25 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:26 +1000
voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-05 20:08 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-05 14:58 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-05 15:16 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 12:41 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-05 16:03 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:24 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:34 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:51 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-21 19:45 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 09:17 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-24 17:49 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 13:40 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-24 19:03 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-25 09:52 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 22:28 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-25 08:17 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 10:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-10-25 18:50 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-25 18:00 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 10:16 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-26 07:24 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:13 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 07:09 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 20:03 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 18:33 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-26 08:07 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-10-25 14:58 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-25 17:10 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-10-26 10:08 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:09 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-26 07:27 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 07:11 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 20:09 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-26 21:24 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:18 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:22 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:41 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:53 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 15:35 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 23:26 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 16:35 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 14:40 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 06:02 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 01:09 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 14:04 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2015-08-09 00:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-09 12:42 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-10 00:18 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-09 17:50 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:19 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:10 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 08:43 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:40 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-11 00:21 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:57 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-11 09:57 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:20 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-12 11:21 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-12 19:50 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-12 16:21 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 12:08 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 09:58 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 17:04 +0200
security concept "rule of least priviledge" (was: voting booths in repu areas) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-17 16:42 -0400
Re: security concept "rule of least priviledge" (was: voting booths in repu areas) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 10:08 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:26 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 09:38 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 17:14 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 11:42 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 18:47 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 14:22 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 07:00 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-14 11:34 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 06:53 +0700
what's entrapment (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 14:13 +0000
Re: what's entrapment (was: voting booths in republican areas) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:20 +0700
Re: what's entrapment Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-18 22:06 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:43 +0700
prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 13:42 +0000
Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican areas) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:08 +0700
Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican areas) Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-16 17:14 +0200
Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-17 22:57 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-12 13:07 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-12 18:31 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-12 22:44 -0400
why disclose personal info (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 13:20 +0000
Re: why disclose personal info David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-15 15:12 +0100
Re: why disclose personal info Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-08-15 15:08 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:26 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:23 -0700
accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-15 09:50 -0400
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2015-08-15 16:36 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:55 -0700
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-15 14:44 -0500
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:34 -0700
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 09:54 +0700
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-18 11:02 +1000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-22 12:55 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-22 19:08 +0200
security vs. manners (was: accommodating unreasonable searches..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-24 00:48 +0200
Re: security vs. manners Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-24 14:18 -0400
Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:59 -0700
Re: security vs. manners Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-25 13:40 +0200
Re: security vs. manners Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2015-08-25 12:31 -0400
Re: security vs. manners lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2015-08-25 16:38 +0000
Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:29 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 10:19 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 11:45 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 13:53 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 14:39 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 16:56 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 16:08 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:33 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 17:32 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 19:51 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 18:59 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-27 08:42 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-27 09:24 -0500
Re: security vs. manners tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-26 22:52 -0400
Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:57 -0700
Re: security vs. manners Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:36 +0100
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-25 21:04 -0400
Re: security vs. manners tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-26 03:25 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:26 -0400
Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 12:18 -0700
Re: security vs. manners (was: accommodating unreasonable searches..) TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-25 08:36 -0400
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-16 23:19 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) "Stuart McCall" <smccall@myunrealbox.com> - 2015-08-17 18:08 +0100
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-17 17:22 -0400
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-17 23:15 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) "Stuart McCall" <smccall@myunrealbox.com> - 2015-08-18 17:11 +0100
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-18 23:03 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-19 13:53 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:49 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 17:25 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 19:51 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 19:31 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 21:56 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 20:51 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 21:48 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 19:29 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 15:40 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-07 00:08 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 21:08 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 01:04 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 13:58 +1000
do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican areas) Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-08 14:03 +0200
Re: do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican areas) Elias <elias@nowherenohow.com> - 2015-08-08 10:02 -0500
Re: do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican areas) Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 21:28 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 15:23 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas News <News@Group.Post> - 2015-08-06 07:00 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:59 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:33 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 15:34 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 18:50 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 16:55 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:12 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 08:40 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 07:26 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:16 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:24 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:16 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:22 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 07:35 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-06 14:36 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:18 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:31 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 14:04 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 14:27 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:44 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:58 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:12 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:36 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-10 20:05 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:18 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 15:27 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:38 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 15:25 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 15:19 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:07 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 08:38 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 07:25 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 11:11 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 07:31 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:02 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 11:14 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:38 -0700
leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-07 14:58 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-07 10:56 -0400
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 05:16 +1000
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-25 22:45 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:24 -0400
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-27 13:47 +0000
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-27 10:20 -0400
q) campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? a) education Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-09-03 08:44 +0000
comp.mobile.android "The Sorceress of Qar" <sorceress@qar.qanar.com> - 2015-08-27 09:23 -0500
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-27 13:01 -0400
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201509.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-09-06 00:12 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-08 16:21 -0700
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-22 23:11 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 20:54 -0700
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-08-22 23:40 -0500
Bev's reverse logic (was: leader's campaigns..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-09-03 09:22 +0200
Re: Bev's reverse logic David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-09-03 08:44 +0100
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-23 08:49 -0400
small campaign donations (was: leader's campaigns..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-31 16:06 -0400
leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-12 04:08 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-05 18:13 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 16:02 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2015-08-06 18:27 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-07 12:36 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-07 12:38 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-10 08:51 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-10 22:28 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-11 08:53 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-11 01:06 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-11 10:25 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-11 17:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-12 09:54 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 19:00 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-07 12:39 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-08-06 16:14 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 09:07 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 09:49 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 11:46 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 12:38 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 18:51 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 11:14 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 08:31 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 12:56 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 11:57 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 15:04 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 12:22 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 15:36 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 06:09 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 13:10 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:03 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 12:39 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-19 20:09 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 14:27 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 14:58 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 16:10 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 08:32 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:14 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-24 08:33 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-24 09:37 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 15:27 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:13 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-19 16:34 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 14:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 12:40 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-20 09:55 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-20 10:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 22:35 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:09 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:02 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-19 00:03 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 19:01 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-19 19:08 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 09:34 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-18 23:57 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 19:05 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 09:28 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-19 19:14 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-19 09:09 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 07:15 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 05:56 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 05:52 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:15 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas David Solimano <david@solimano.org> - 2015-08-06 22:52 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 21:59 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 20:26 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 14:03 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:11 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 05:34 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:04 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Dieghettino <d@casa.mia> - 2015-07-26 06:41 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 08:45 +1000
non-EU travellers must carry passports (was: Who pays..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-01 20:26 +0200
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-01 21:33 +0100
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-03 23:11 -0400
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-04 14:25 +0100
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-05 18:56 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 04:05 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 07:03 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 14:11 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-04 11:19 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:19 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 12:32 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 15:40 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 14:15 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:36 +1000
id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-05 20:05 +0000
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:19 -0700
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:46 -0400
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:10 -0400
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 14:51 -0400
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 14:58 -0400
id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-08 08:48 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-26 18:45 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:04 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 09:51 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 09:30 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:24 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:57 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 16:57 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:39 +1000
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| From | F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 11:02 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) |
| Message-ID | <55d28447$0$54679$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22058 |
John B. wrote: > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:50:40 -0400 (EDT), Jack Ryan > <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> wrote: > >>> So much of life now requires some sort of ID that the "I don' have >>> to show you no steenkin' badges" solution causes more trouble than >>> it's worth. >> >> Doing a needless disclosure becomes part of the problem, not the >> contrary. It's an enabler. Taking the cowards way out and disclosing >> is to support the attack on the liberties of other non-criminals who >> get harassed after you. >> >> Props to those who stand up for their rights, because they are doing >> the right thing by everyone. >> >> It's a true dichotomy. You can be part of the problem, or you can be >> part of the solution, there is no other option. > > Are you people real? You meet someone and he introduces himself and > you say "Nope, I can't reveal my name!". > > Why in the world is your identity a secret? > > If you wish to enter the U.S. you must not only identify yourself, but > you must prove of that identity. If you want to get a driver's license > you must provide some form of identification and (I believe) prove how > old you are. If you wish to enter school you must identify yourself. > If you want to get a job you need (usually) to identify yourself. If > you wish to do business with most people you will have to identify > yourself. > > But if a guy who's identity is evident for anyone to see asks for your > identity you say it is a secret. > -- > cheers, > > John B. > The instances you quote are legitimate but there are many instances where name and address should be sufficient not ssa ,dob,grandmothers maiden name etc.Sometimes with ulterior motive. Especially onerous are excessive permissions for apps which almost always have an ulterior motive
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| From | Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 12:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea |
| Message-ID | <30d8894f063998122bd392980240038f@remailer.paranoici.org> |
| In reply to | #22058 |
> Are you people real? You meet someone and he introduces himself and > you say "Nope, I can't reveal my name!". Of course. In walking along a sidewalk someone recently walked up to me out of the pure blue, and introduced himself. I said nothing. Just kept walking. Bad idea to dignify the approach with a response. What do I gain from stopping, and engaging with the beggar? At best, I'll hear a sob story that isn't interesting and wastes my time. At worst, he's a social engineer masquerading as a beggar. If you really expect to gain something from it, (you're probably not street wise, but anyway) you can still say "hi, how are you?" without doing a reckless disclosure. Find out what the situation is. Of course if it turns out that you *can* benefit from the disclosure, and you *need* to disclose in order to get the benefit, then the disclosure is no longer needless. > Why in the world is your identity a secret? It's very good for social engineers. Think obituaries. Naive elderly people write obituaries to include all the names of the family, and all their relationships. This is great information for a social engineer, who then calls up elderly folks, and says: "Hi Mary, I'm friends with your grandson Jerry.. he's in a lot of trouble. I called Mindy (his sister) who said you would be able to help out. We need $1000 to get Jerry out of trouble..." Thanks to having some identities from the obituary, all the names being tossed around convinces grandma that the swindler must be genuinely connected to the family. She pays him. > If you wish to enter the U.S. you must not only identify yourself, > but you must prove of that identity. That's not /needless/ disclosure, if you're at the border and need to cross it. Contrast that with being 15 miles inside the border, surrounded by US soil. In that case, you're already in the country. Disclosing your identity to the excessively intrusive border police far from the border is *needless*, as demonstrated by youtube video u4Ku17CqdZg.
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| From | Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 19:08 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea |
| Message-ID | <55D8AC7A.32B6519C@B.Maus.De> |
| In reply to | #22133 |
Anonymous wrote: > Naive elderly > people write obituaries to include all the names of the family, and > all their relationships. Honest elederly people, who still have manners. You are right, the scenario you describe is a very real one, but whom do i make the arbiter of how I am to behave? The criminal or all my honest neighbours, friends and acquaintences I interact with most of the time? My prefernce is clear. This preference or not for basic decency continues into newsgroups, compare my From: to yours. Axel
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 00:48 +0200 |
| Subject | security vs. manners (was: accommodating unreasonable searches..) |
| Message-ID | <e477e59ae4bb9821a17e822be9a64a43@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #22135 |
> Honest elederly people, who still have manners. You are right, the > scenario you describe is a very real one When security entails unconventional manners, allowing past standards of manner to trump todays security is foolish. When someone who is street-wise encounters a well-mannered act of security ignorance, it reflects worse than having bad manners, IMO. > but whom do i make the arbiter of how I am to behave? The criminal > or all my honest neighbours, friends and acquaintences I interact > with most of the time? Security is rarely pretty (at least from the standpoint of a security-naive observer). This is not a good reason to avoid practicing security. Security is driven by adversaries, but good friends shouldn't discourage it either. > My prefernce is clear. This preference or not for basic decency > continues into newsgroups, compare my From: to yours. My /From:/ field supports need-to-know / rule-of-least-privilege paradigms. I don't need a personal reply, so I'd be a fool to supply extraneous information that can easily be abused. It may not be as warm and welcoming as a personal address, but the problem is in the perception. Going forward, people will continue to adapt to put security before manners. The standards of good manners will adapt to security needs, not the other way around.
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| From | Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 14:18 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <79ccd706a7fd417b2d785a50eabdf59d@remailer.cpunk.us> |
| In reply to | #22142 |
> > but whom do i make the arbiter of how I am to behave? The > > criminal or all my honest neighbours, friends and acquaintences I > > interact with most of the time? > > Security is rarely pretty (at least from the standpoint of a > security-naive observer). This is not a good reason to avoid > practicing security. Some people screen all calls to defend from telemarketers. Friends are then rudely greeted by a robot. Must security be at odds? In this case, it's better to answer the phone personally, and then sue any telemarketers that call. That way you can be good mannered and still fend off telephonic intrusions on your home. But indeed sometimes you must choose between security and humanity.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 19:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <mrglih$pqh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22153 |
On 08/24/2015 11:18 AM, Jack Ryan wrote: >> > but whom do i make the arbiter of how I am to behave? The >> > criminal or all my honest neighbours, friends and acquaintences I >> > interact with most of the time? >> >> Security is rarely pretty (at least from the standpoint of a >> security-naive observer). This is not a good reason to avoid >> practicing security. > > Some people screen all calls to defend from telemarketers. Friends > are then rudely greeted by a robot. Must security be at odds? In > this case, it's better to answer the phone personally, and then sue > any telemarketers that call. That way you can be good mannered and > still fend off telephonic intrusions on your home. Our friends' names show up when they call. Strange numbers get picked up and put down immediately before the ringing becomes annoying. Exceptions are made when I'm expecting a phone call, at which time I say rude things to the telemarketers. > But indeed sometimes you must choose between security and humanity. Not unless money is involved. -- Cheers, Bev "Too many people in Washington are full of themselves, among other things that they are full of." --Thomas Sowell
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| From | Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 13:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <55DC5429.2FEB521A@B.Maus.De> |
| In reply to | #22157 |
The Real Bev wrote: > Strange numbers get picked > up and put down immediately before the ringing becomes annoying. So if your daughter or mother in law got into trouble while traveling, they coudn't call you from my house and neither could the police. Sounds quite irresponsible to me. Axel
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| From | Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 12:31 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <mri59i$q8g$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #22158 |
On 8/25/15 7:40 AM, Axel Berger wrote: > The Real Bev wrote: >> Strange numbers get picked >> up and put down immediately before the ringing becomes annoying. > > So if your daughter or mother in law got into trouble while traveling, > they coudn't call you from my house and neither could the police. Sounds > quite irresponsible to me. > > Axel > Well if my daughter needed help, I'd sure want to know about it, but as for my mother in law...... -- Calling illegal aliens undocumented immigrants is like calling heroin dealers undocumented pharmacists, thieves undocumented wealth-redistribution specialists, or trespassers uninvited house guests. - @RealJamesWoods
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| From | lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-25 16:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <mri5li$erm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22158 |
On 2015-08-25, Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> wrote: > The Real Bev wrote: >> Strange numbers get picked >> up and put down immediately before the ringing becomes annoying. > > So if your daughter or mother in law got into trouble while traveling, > they coudn't call you from my house and neither could the police. Sounds > quite irresponsible to me. > > Axel I've had phone calls from "member services"????? & no msg was left for me to call back. Then I've also had phone calls from "emergency services"????? without leaving a msg..... Or how about "customer service"??? no msg. Or even a weekly call from a collection agency for the previous tenant who haven't been here for over 10 years; this one I got my ISP to block the number; this one is a robo-call as it went on for years. I have the answering machine answer after 2 rings. Some telemarketers/scammers have started to be "smarter" & just not leave any msg; exception are the calls about crime in "my" neighborhood & want to install an alarm system "for free", in my apartment. Or the calls from "first alert" that claim that I was recommended for a free alert whatever.
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| From | "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 09:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <mrkess$sth$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22161 |
"lew" <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> wrote in message news:mri5li$erm$1@dont-email.me... > On 2015-08-25, Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> wrote: >> The Real Bev wrote: >>> Strange numbers get picked >>> up and put down immediately before the ringing becomes annoying. >> >> So if your daughter or mother in law got into trouble while >> traveling, >> they coudn't call you from my house and neither could the police. >> Sounds >> quite irresponsible to me. >> >> Axel > > I've had phone calls from "member services"????? & no msg was left for > me to call back. "Member Services" sounds like the credit card scam I receive calls from every day, sometimes multiple times a day. I get calls on both my home phone and mobile phone from them. The calls stopped for awhile, now they are back at it. IT seems that having your phoen numbers on the "do not call list" is a waste of time. About 80% of the calls I recieve on my home phone are from telemarketers. Lately, it's been "First Solar" who call multiple times a day and refuse to stop calling even though I've told them to. > Then I've also had phone calls from "emergency services"????? without > leaving a msg..... > Or how about "customer service"??? no msg. > Or even a weekly call from a collection agency for the previous > tenant who haven't been here for over 10 years; this one I got > my ISP to block the number; this one is a robo-call as it went on > for years. > > I have the answering machine answer after 2 rings. Some > telemarketers/scammers have started to be "smarter" & just not leave > any msg; exception are the calls about crime in "my" neighborhood > & want to install an alarm system "for free", in my apartment. Or > the calls from "first alert" that claim that I was recommended for a > free alert whatever.
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| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 10:19 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <7mirta5o8spt7vmmo3a9difhiubd8fvfpu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22178 |
Per PAS: > About 80% of the calls I recieve on >my home phone are from telemarketers. I'm glad to hear I am not the only one. And I am starting to get robocalls where the bogus calling number is on the same exchange as my cell phone. -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 11:45 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <mrkmrk$tqq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22179 |
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:7mirta5o8spt7vmmo3a9difhiubd8fvfpu@4ax.com... > Per PAS: >> About 80% of the calls I recieve on >>my home phone are from telemarketers. > > I'm glad to hear I am not the only one. I'm sad to hear we're in the same boat :) > And I am starting to get robocalls where the bogus calling number is > on > the same exchange as my cell phone. Yes, I see the same thing. Even though one's phone number is registered on the "Do Not Call List", the law permits that businesses you have patronized, political campaigns, not-for-profits, and charities can call you. My son has recently joined the NYPD and now I am receiving calls from bogus "police charities" where all of the money donated goes to fundraising and paying the salaries of those who "work" or the charity. I knew it was only a matter of time that I'd be getting these calls once my son joined the department.
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| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 13:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <53vrtalddbk6och14ulok9e768u34b155p@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22182 |
Per PAS: >Even though one's phone number is registered on the "Do Not Call List", >the law permits that businesses you have patronized, political >campaigns, not-for-profits, and charities can call you. It's not just that. The Do-Not-Call lists are now moot just on technological grounds - and I have a small folder full of lame letters from the Penna Att'y General's office to support that statement. The spiel is that they have largely moved offshore and/or resorted to multiple-relay VOIP (whatever that is....) calling and cannot be traced or prosecuted. Nobody has mentioned honey traps and prosecution when the money changes hands. I don't know enough to have a well-founded opinion, but from the outside it looks possible. -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 14:39 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <055sta5e4thse2jav1cjpfssb2imsqs5gs@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22184 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:53:50 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote: >Per PAS: >>Even though one's phone number is registered on the "Do Not Call List", >>the law permits that businesses you have patronized, political >>campaigns, not-for-profits, and charities can call you. > >It's not just that. The Do-Not-Call lists are now moot just on >technological grounds - and I have a small folder full of lame letters >from the Penna Att'y General's office to support that statement. > >The spiel is that they have largely moved offshore and/or resorted to >multiple-relay VOIP (whatever that is....) calling and cannot be traced >or prosecuted. I have VOIP through Verizon and use NOMOROBO.COM, which intercepts robot calls and hangs up on them. All I hear is one ring. If the land line rings twice then 99% sure that it's a regular call. It is a great program. You might check to see if you're connection is covered by them, you must have the possibility of simultaneous ring. BK
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| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 16:56 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <on9stah16e6o655npnf6deds1rm83ib8pv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22187 |
Per BobbyK: > >I have VOIP through Verizon and use NOMOROBO.COM, which intercepts >robot calls and hangs up on them. All I hear is one ring. If the land >line rings twice then 99% sure that it's a regular call. It is a >great program. You might check to see if you're connection is covered >by them, you must have the possibility of simultaneous ring. Cheap as I am (basic Verizon dial line for $8.00 per month), I am getting closer and closer to shelling out the big bucks for the Simultaneous Ring service required to support NoMoRobo. The alternative is moving my incoming calls (non-800 and non-911 outgoing are already there) to my existing VOIP service and front-ending incoming calls with a voice menu "Press 1 for Sue, Press 2 for Dave...." supplemented by a WhiteList so known callers don't hit the voice menu. -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 16:08 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <vkasta5h33qrtcursn7kjq0j8b7acuab9r@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22188 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:56:35 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote: >Per BobbyK: >> >>I have VOIP through Verizon and use NOMOROBO.COM, which intercepts >>robot calls and hangs up on them. All I hear is one ring. If the land >>line rings twice then 99% sure that it's a regular call. It is a >>great program. You might check to see if you're connection is covered >>by them, you must have the possibility of simultaneous ring. > >Cheap as I am (basic Verizon dial line for $8.00 per month), I am >getting closer and closer to shelling out the big bucks for the >Simultaneous Ring service required to support NoMoRobo. > >The alternative is moving my incoming calls (non-800 and non-911 >outgoing are already there) to my existing VOIP service and front-ending >incoming calls with a voice menu "Press 1 for Sue, Press 2 for Dave...." >supplemented by a WhiteList so known callers don't hit the voice menu. I guess either would work, but I can only attest to the efficacy of nomorobo. Incidentally, I'm able to go to "My Verizon" and it shows all calls, both incoming, outgoing and also sent to voicemail. Gives you the phone numbers used too...of course the robo calls are all spoofed numbers.
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| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 17:33 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <t3cstap3n169dbtkite9jrcv7s4hbeg1jv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22189 |
Per BobbyK: > >I guess either would work, but I can only attest to the efficacy of >nomorobo. That's what I lean towards - because I have more faith in POTS than VOIP when it comes to 911 calls. -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 17:32 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <ejfsta5cs5fk2fje3cn56ar4vkegisi1fn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22190 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:33:42 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote: >Per BobbyK: >> >>I guess either would work, but I can only attest to the efficacy of >>nomorobo. > >That's what I lean towards - because I have more faith in POTS than VOIP >when it comes to 911 calls. Then you won't have nomorobo.
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| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 19:51 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <l6kstap82rsj1ttai3t9bq747613kee009@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22191 |
Per BobbyK: >>That's what I lean towards - because I have more faith in POTS than VOIP >>when it comes to 911 calls. > >Then you won't have nomorobo. Why not? I thought all it needed was CallerID and simultaneous ring? -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-26 18:59 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: security vs. manners |
| Message-ID | <5lkstalps3ufkdpr6vc8l4luokeomitgn7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #22193 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:51:19 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote: >Per BobbyK: >>>That's what I lean towards - because I have more faith in POTS than VOIP >>>when it comes to 911 calls. >> >>Then you won't have nomorobo. > >Why not? > >I thought all it needed was CallerID and simultaneous ring? Not POTS though. VOIP. Unless I misunderstood you. 911 is no problem for VOIP either.
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