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  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-17 23:14 +0000
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-18 00:12 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 00:58 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 19:29 -0600
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 14:29 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 20:55 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 16:02 -0500
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 01:14 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 00:32 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:41 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 20:49 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:38 -0600
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 15:50 -0600
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:59 -0600
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 22:06 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:09 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:07 +0000
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 18:27 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 19:16 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:50 +0000
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:34 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:54 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:49 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 13:39 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-24 06:10 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-01-25 09:14 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 17:42 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:02 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 15:54 -0600
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 16:41 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:21 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:48 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:51 -0600
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:14 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-25 16:34 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-25 11:49 -0500
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:02 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 22:41 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 17:14 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:08 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:11 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:17 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:16 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-25 20:41 +0100
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 02:02 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-02-15 19:15 -0600
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:46 -0800
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-18 04:18 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 15:01 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:17 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000

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#59307

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:38:39 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:14:36 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> 
> > Oh, look, it has an enemies list just as most evil lying semi-men
> > do.  
> 
> Yet again, Cybe(r) Wizard, you prove to miscomprehend adult concepts.
> 
> Let me ask the *adults* on this newsgroup *how* to respond to that?
> 1. Either Cybe is _incredibly_ stupid  (but nobody is _that_ stupid),
> or, 2. Cybe is just playing silly childish semantic games (for what
> gain?), 3. Or, Cybe lacks comprehension of even the simplest of
> things.
> 
> *How does an adult even _respond_ to people like Cybe?*

You are a liar.  A /KNOWN/ liar.  Known by /ALL/ to be such.

First, a /REAL/ adult, one who is a true human with honorable intent,
would admit to having told the obvious lies that you've told such as
the one found in: 
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net> 
in which you make the pompous claim of having written TEN THOUSAND
tutorials.

Everyone already knows that to be both false and told with the intent
of bolstering your own questionable abilities with software.

IOW, you are a liar.  A /KNOWN/ liar.  Known by /ALL/ to be such.

Second, that adult would know better than to equate anyone to some very
dubious idea of yours that children are somehow either stupid or
incapable of learning.  

Neither is true, BTW, making your stating of it another lie.

IOW, you are a liar.  A /KNOWN/ liar.  Known by /ALL/ to be such.

The fact that you believe it shows either that you
intentionally mis-characterize both children and other adults who
disagree with you or that you neither have nor cherish children.

That by itself makes you sub-human in my book. 
 
Oh, and a liar. A /KNOWN/ liar.  Known by /ALL/ to be such.

Third, it is no semantic game to show you to be a liar using YOUR OWN
WORDS.  To question that is showing once again how much of a true and
constant and consistent liar you are.  

The semantic games which you say I play are either the showing of you to
be a liar  (as in Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>) or
possibly the 'game' wherein I show you your own extremely poor usage of
English-ized Latin or your quite questionable knowledge and use of
basic English grammar.

IOW, you are a liar.  A /KNOWN/ liar.  Known by /ALL/ to be such.

Having now shown conclusively that:
1. Cybe is /NOT/ _incredibly_ stupid and that:
2. Cybe is /NOT/ just playing silly childish semantic games, 
and additionally that:
3. Cybe /DOES NOT/ lack comprehension of even the simplest of
   things such as simnple liars like you (just as a for instance)
we await your usual sidestepping, obfuscation, or ignoring (is the act
of ignoring known as ignorance?) of obvious facts known (now) by almost
everybody.

IOW, you are a liar.  A /KNOWN/ liar.  Known by /ALL/ to be such.

Keep on digging; the hole is almost deep enough to bury yourself
forever as a known liar who most will have better sense that to trust.

IOW, you are a liar.  A /KNOWN/ liar.  Known by /ALL/ to be such.

You really are a pathetic little weasel of a pitifully inept man, aren't
you?

Cybe R. Wizard -thinks you to be a liar, too, but a poor one
-- 
“Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted
with important matters.” 
	Albert Einstein

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#59311

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:02:06 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> First, a /REAL/ adult, one who is a true human with honorable intent,
> would admit to having told the obvious lies that you've told such as
> the one found in:

Hi Cybe(r) Wizard,

Notwithstanding the fact that _one_ tutorial, is far more than you've
contributed, what's amazing is your complete & utter lack of comprehension.

No amount of fact will ever get through to your left-side DK brain.
o You actually _believe_ you know how the lemon-juice trick works.
o That is, you can't comprehend that you can't comprehend what I had said.

That you don't comprehend what I said, is stellar for Left Dunning-Kruger.
o Absolutely no amount of logic are you capable of comprehending.
o You claim the lemon-juice trick works - despite not comprehending it.

To wit, you don't even _comprehend_ what I claimed.
o Far worse ... sadly ... you can't comprehend that you can't comprehend.

You prove me correct in _every_ repetition of your lack of comprehension.

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#59314

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 22:41:46 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> Hi Cybe(r) Wizard,

I'm no longer wasting my time reading any new blatherings from you as
you are a worthless liar with no human-like compunctions.

Liar:
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
That's you saying how you've written TERN THOUSAND tutorials.

Show I'm wrong.  Show that list.

Otherwise, you area  worthless liar with no morals at all.  

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
I'd rather not have anything than be a liar.
	Alicia Keys

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#59308

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:38:39 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> People like Cybe prove to be (see list below) infest those Q&A
> threads.

What does that even mean?  You know, in English words.

You're starting to blather rather significantly.  It is showing that you
know my claims to be true, and it is telling that it is affecting you
and your poor writing quite a lot.

GREAT!   :-)    I'm glad of it.

Go ahead and have a big hissy fit.  It might be beneficial.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
To be trusted is a greater compliment than being loved. 
	George MacDonald

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#59309

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:38:39 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> Sure, my tactic of making it "less fun" for them is my main approach.

The sign of a good tactician is that he changes tactics when his
tactics prove to be failures as yours have and still are.

Guess what THAT means.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more
intelligently. 
	Henry Ford

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#59310

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:38:39 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> The fact is:
> A.
> B.
> C. 

Geeze, learn to count.  At the very least learn the difference between
singular and plural. Your blathering spittle is showing again.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
When we blather about trivial things, we ourselves become trivial, for
our attention gets taken up with trivialities. You become what you give
your attention to. 
	Epictetus

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#59298

Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:11:31 -0000 (UTC)
> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> 
>> Whom am I talking about who _never_ adds on-topic technical value?
>> o Snit, nospam, Jolly Roger, Dan Purgert, Cybe R Wizard, Char
>> Jackson, o Wolf K., Alan Baker, Tim Streater, Alan Browne,
>> Savageduck, Wade Garrett, o BK at OnRamp, Lloyd, Hemidactylus, Your
>> Name, John Doe, Rene Lamantagne o Jasen Betts, Wolf K, Rudy Weiser,
>> Good Guy, Diesel, et al.
> 
> Oh, look, it has an enemies list just as most evil lying semi-men do.
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard -happyily opposing evil wannabe-men

You’re in good company. Cheers. 😇

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#59304

(Too many newsgroups, had to snip a few)

>>> Name, John Doe, Rene Lamantagne o Jasen Betts, Wolf K, Rudy Weiser,

Lolz.  I must have hurt him quite a bit that, after a couple of months, he
still (sort of) remembers my name.


Arlen, I saw you where complaining about people playing (semantic) games.
If that is so, how come you have been playing *many* of them, for as long as
I know of you ?

Like asking for "some help" which always turns out *they* have to do all the
searching and testing, not you.

Like trying to get people to prove they actually know anything, by giving
you exactly what you need.  That *is* a bit transparent, don't you think ?

Like switching from "I'm superior" to "I'm a child", but exhibiting the
exact same line of thought that *you*, in either position, are
capable-of-and-allowed-to teach either the inferiors or the adults stuff,
but the other way ?   Not going to happen!

Like redefining the word "helpfull" to "tells me exactly what I need to do
and how I need to do it" - yeah, thats right: delivered on a silver platter
so you have got *nothing* to do anymore - and ofcourse only to be judged by
you.

Like chanting over-and-over again how each post of {fill in your target}
just *screams* how incompetent he is - without even even a sliver of
explanation of how even a particular message would do that - as if
repetition must make it become true.   You have claimed several times that
you only deal in facts.  Where *are* your facts here ?

Like ignoring what you do not want to hear - like "here is why that idea
won't work, at least not on the scale you now want it" facts - assuming it
will just "go away".   With ofcourse anyone laying out those *underbuild*
facts being told to be incompetent.

As for some of the people here showing you their track records - which seem
to *far* overpass yours - ?   You simply ignore that and go for them
personally.   As if you have the idea that you having a swing at them
somehow erases their track record and makes you superior again.  It doesn't.
Quite the opposite actually.

Playing games with, and lying to yourself much ?


Ofcourse, the biggest game you're playing is keeping your head lodged firmly
in the sand while repeating over-and-over again how "superior" you are to
*anyone*, particulary the people here - even if you belie that
time-and-again by asking everyone here to tell you *everyting* you want/need
to know so you can reach your (thanwhile) goal.

How do you keep that juxtaposition in your head, and not getting crazy ?
Oh, wait ... :-)


And ofcourse that 10.000 tutorials claim.   Which is pretty laughable.   Not
only because of the sheer ammount of it (even removing a zero from it would
be a *large* number), but also by looking at what you have posted here as
such.  There is *no way* you can have even written 10 of them that where
actually used by others and regarded as being helpfull and than currently
churn out the crap you do.   NO. WAY.

Like your current two steps in regard of checking of being "pwned" and
creating a LAN-local pastword storage.  The first step does *absolutily
nothing* for the second, and vise-verse.    As for any explanation to that
combining (you know, actually *tutoring* people) ?   Not there.

And remember the formatting of drives with FAT32 in Windows ?    Remember
that one someone actually did some testing on it and discovered that it
wasn't all that stable and could even cause content loss ?  Did you care
about such "trivialities" ?    No, you just changed the target of the
tutorial to people who already knew about the dangers of that program.
Yeah, exactly: to the people who do not need it.  For all others (novices)
who would stumble over it - and not be warned about the dangers of it - ?
Sucks to be them I guess.


Kiddo, you''ve been shat out in pretty-much every newsgroup (I frequent) you
have posted your "requests" in.  How much more do you need to be shat outof
before it dawns onto you that it might perhaps not be the world that is
against you, but instead its you against that world ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#59367

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:41:06 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:

> Lolz.  I must have hurt him quite a bit that, after a couple of months, he
> still (sort of) remembers my name.

Hi Rudy Wieser,

You're correct that I haven't had to deal with your stupidity for a while.

We go way back, you and me, mostly on the WinXP group.
I don't think you've _ever_ in your life, said something meaningful.

Have you?
Anyway, I appreciate that you posted as I'm building a killfile script.

Besides, I've never really needed to put anyone but Snit into a "killfile".
Even after decades of being on Usenet. 

Plus, I don't use a Usenet reader, per se, anyway.
It's just a bunch of scripts that Marek & others helped me write.

But it's nice that you provided me with your email address just now.
Thanks!

Below is a score of folks who prove, over the years, to be LSOMS DK:
o Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
o Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
o BK@Onramp.net
o Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
o Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
o "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
o Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
o Diesel <me@privacy.net> (aka Dustin Cook)
o *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
o Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz>
o joe <none@domain.invalid>
o John Doe <always.look@message.header>
o Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
o Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
o nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
o Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
o "R.Wieser" <address@not.available>
o Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
o Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
o Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net>
o Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
o Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
o et al.

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#59824

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:11:31 -0000 (UTC)
>> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Whom am I talking about who _never_ adds on-topic technical value?
>>> o Snit, nospam, Jolly Roger, Dan Purgert, Cybe R Wizard, Char
>>> Jackson, o Wolf K., Alan Baker, Tim Streater, Alan Browne,
>>> Savageduck, Wade Garrett, o BK at OnRamp, Lloyd, Hemidactylus, Your
>>> Name, John Doe, Rene Lamantagne o Jasen Betts, Wolf K, Rudy Weiser,
>>> Good Guy, Diesel, et al.
>> 
>> Oh, look, it has an enemies list just as most evil lying semi-men do.
>> 
>> Cybe R. Wizard -happyily opposing evil wannabe-men
> 
> You’re in good company. Cheers. 😇
> 

I save a LOT of time and irritation by not clicking on anomymous posts. Hi,
Jolly!

-- 
biblioholic medievalist via iPad

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#59406

On 1/25/19   PDT 8:29 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2019-01-25, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 22:09:30 +0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
>>
>>> You belittle and insult those (like myself) who could be of benefit
>>> to you, in so far as correctly answering technical questions and
>>> presenting useful problem solving skills. There's no advantage for
>>> you to use childish insults towards so many, Arlen.
>>
>> Hi Diesel,
>> I have to _explain_ something to you that you do not _comprehend_ yet.
>>
>> You add zero value to _any_ Usenet post. Zero. Nada. Zip. Nothing.
> 
> Dude, you are a leech sucking knowledge from people here and returning
> nothing but dreary diatribe.  even your insults are boring.
> 
>> o You _can't_ add any value Diesel.
> 
> He's made me smile a couple of times, that's value.
> 
>> What's the strangest thing, Diesel, is you _think_ alienating you is a
>> "bad" thing, but, it's actually a "good" thing.
> 
> You've got a unusual way of "alienating"
> 
>> Whom am I talking about who _never_ adds on-topic technical value?
>> o Snit, nospam, Jolly Roger, Dan Purgert, Cybe R Wizard, Char Jackson,
>> o Wolf K., Alan Baker, Tim Streater, Alan Browne, Savageduck, Wade Garrett,
>> o BK at OnRamp, Lloyd, Hemidactylus, Your Name, John Doe, Rene Lamantagne
>> o Jasen Betts, Wolf K, Rudy Weiser, Good Guy, Diesel, et al.
>>
>> All of you prove me right in every one of your posts!
> 
> Dude pull your head out of your ARse HOLe  and STOP LYING
> 
>> o The problem is that you _think_ you add value.
>> o And yet, you _prove_ you can't add value.
> 
>> Why?  I don't know why.
> 
> You come here lying and insulting people and then want them to respect
> you.  Maybe Donald Trump can teach you a few things, that seem to be
> his tactic, but even he never got more than 50%.
> 
>> More importantly, why are you trolls _always_ worthless?
>> Again, I don't know why.
> 
> To a thief the neighbourhood watch is of no value.
> 
>> o All I know is that you prove, in every post, to be worthless.
> 
>> You _claim_ knowledge you just do not have.
> 
> You claim to know things which are not true
> 

Seems a reasonable assertion.

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#59023

On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:14:44 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> I can't speak for others, but, I'm far from stupid, Arlen. 

Hi Diesel (et al.),

*The Dunning-Kruger effect affects everyone with skills.*
o You. Me. Everybody.

In essence:
o Those with the least skills, overestimate the most, while
o Those with the most skills, tend to underestimate theirs, 
o With those with average skills tending to estimate best.

I'm only going to respond to you, Diesel, and not to the drivel who may
follow in your wake (e.g., Cybe R. Wizard, Dan Purgert, Jolly Roger, Tim
Streater, Alan Browne, Alan Baker, nospam, haemactylus, Char Jackson, Rene
Lamontagne, et al.), simply because the response to any one of you is the
same as the response to all.

Having said that, your claim that you're "not stupid" is instructive
because all of you prove the point I was trying to make, which is:
o *I used to think people like you on Usenet were either incredibly stupid,*
o *Or, that you were simply pulling our legs by denying basic obvious fact*
...
o *But now, I realize it's actually worse than that - far worse - in fact.*
o You're incapable of _comprehending_ that you're incapable of comprehending.

That is...
o *You're all _convinced_ that the lemon juice _actually_ worked!*
o *No amount of fact will disabuse you of your imaginary belief system.*

This is not meant as an insult; it's meant to underscore why I will no
longer attempt to deal with the likes of you using cold hard facts.

You're not capable of _comprehending_ even the _simplest_ of facts.
o Simply because you actually _think_ you do comprehend them!

Do you understand the conundrum Diesel?

I often said that people like you were stellar at being "immune to facts";
but that's because I had thought the problem was simply that of your 
o Ignorance, or, 
o Amusement.

Given that, my approach to responding to the likes of you was tactical:
o If you were simply ignorant - I supplied facts to back up everything;
o When you pulled our leg - I make it "less fun" for you.

That is, I followed the strategy of "confronting the Usenet bullies",
by using the standard tactic of standing up to you cowardly bullies.
o Bearing in mind the old adage of dropping to your level...

I was hoping for one of two effects depending on the reason you were immune
to basic facts...
1. If you were simply ignorant, I supplied you with facts.
And then... when you remained unfathomably incomprehensive, 
2. I simply assumed you were toying with us.

My tactics are well known and quite obvious:
o When you were incomprehensive - I supplied you with copious facts.
o When you remained incomprehensive - I belittled you to make it "less fun"
for you to play your silly games.

But that was the wrong approach!
o Thats! My epiphany.

The problem, I only belatedly realized, is that neither approach will 
work for the likes of you, Diesel, Char Jackson, Rene Lamontagne, 
Wolf K., Alan Baker, Tim Streater, nospam, Jolly Roger, BKatOnRamp, 
(and so many others that I tire even naming your entire bunch).

In the case of presenting facts to you (plural), Diesel:
o You're all literally _incapable_  of comprehending facts
o Due to a cognitive bias where you actually _think_ you can!

*That you are the epitome of the left-side DK effect - is my epiphany!*
o Facts will never work with the likes of you.
o Never.

In the case of confronting your bullying tactics, Diesel,
o It likely still works, to a degree, to make it "less fun" for you,
o However, you folks still insist on your God Given Right to Troll.

Hence, as noted many times, I eventually give up as you win when you
succeed in dropping me down to your level.

As you do now ... where you never add even a single iota of 
on-topic value to the thread conversation.

> I elected  not to help you for a very specific reason; and I made 
> that perfectly clear to you. 

Hehhehheh... Diesel, 

You (the plural "you", which includes the aforementioned trolls)
literally delude yourself, just as the lemon-juice bank robber did.

More to the point, _all_ of you Usenet wastes delude yourselves.
o For example, remember this "Snit" video?
  <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> 
o To this day, Snit still _believes_ he showed WiFi signal strength on iOS
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0/qSXecrnZAQAJ> 

Even after _hundreds_ of posts - you _still_ can't comprehend basic fact.

You all are utterly incapable of ever comprehending even simple facts!
o But it's not (only) that you (all) prove to be incredibly stupid
o What I learned is that you are supremely incapable of comprehending facts

Each one of you, including you, _proves_ you don't even comprehend the
problem set, for Christs' sake, Diesel - let alone offer a solution.

In fact, in reference to what you're alluding to, I accidentally left out a
key step which I repeatedly _challenged_ you on when you said you could
perform the task - where absolutely _none_ of you drivel knew what I was
talking about.

Proof like that abounds that 
o You _think_ you're of at least average intelligence - but you're not
o Which is OK - it just means you're stupid - but it's worse than that.

*Your entire belief system is comprised of _imaginary_ content!*
o Your belief system is, therefore, entirely _immune_ to fact!
o Hence, I have been wasting my time providing well cited facts!

Very few people can answer my questions.. Very very few.
Paul. David Empson. Mike Easter, Marek (bless his soul) ... 
(the list of purposefully helpful intelligent people is rather short).

Certainly the likes of you, Diesel, will _never_ be able to.
o People like you never _intend_ to add to the tribal knowledge
o People like you _can't_ add to the tribal knowledge.

Sadly, you don't even realize why you shouldn't even try.
o It's not what I thought, which is that you're all immune to fact;
o Nor, is it that Usenet is your daily fact-free amusement.

No. Sadly. 
The problem is worse. Far worse.

You're all the epitome of the left-side of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
o You all literally actually _believe_ that the lemon juice trick works!

What that means is my epiphany - which is - there is ZERO response
to you that will _ever_ get the likes of you to comprehend fact.

The _reason_ you can't comprehend facts isn't so much that you're all
incredibly stupid (you are, but that's not the reason, since all these
facts are trivial even for people of low IQ as you all must be).

No. 

*The reason you can't comprehend facts, is that you _think_ you can.*
Thats! My epiphany.

> You were incapable of being a responsible adult and 
> issuing an apology. 

Hehhehheh... An apology Diesel?

First off, ask Cybe R. Wizard about apologies. 
Or even Mike Easter (who probably doesn't remember mine).

I have absolutely no problem apologizing when I make factual mistakes.
None.

A fact, to me, is merely a "thing". 
It's not "emotional" like it is to people like you on the DK left side.

To you (plural you in all cases here), a "fact" is something to "deny".
Just _look_ at how many times the likes of nospam outright denies fact.

Do you _really_ want me to include cite after cite after cite after cite?

I've been studying people like you for decades because, as you know, I
worked for decades in the Silicon Valley, with truly intelligent people,
after having gone to the best schools in this country, with trully
intelligent people, after having grown up in some of the most expensive
locations in the country, again, populated by truly intelligent people.

Compared to them, I'm of average intelligence, if even that.
I've never said otherwise.

But people like you, Diesel, are so far below those people I just mentioned
(who actually _are_ intelligent), that it still boggles my mind how
fantastically incomprehensive people like you are.

You're immune to facts.
o I used to _try_ to supply people like you with copious but simple facts;
o And then I would be shocked that you didn't comprehend simple facts.

But my epiphany is that you are the epitome of the left-side DK effect.
o You can't comprehend facts but you actually think you can.
o Hence, there is no human way to get through to you.

It's just impossible.

As just one example, _look_ at these posts yesterday from Alan Baker:
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/oulJsYSmDDM/16o7X-g7CAAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/oulJsYSmDDM/OZbhPbg8CAAJ>

Can you believe what Alan Baker wrote?
o He's the epitome of the left-side Dunning-Kruger cognitive bias effect!
o *He doesn't comprehend that he can't comprehend!*

Do you see that is my epiphany?
o The key is that _no amount of fact_ will ever help the likes of you comprehend.

People like you, Diesel, and people like you abound, are incapable of
comprehending even the _simplest_ of the simplest of the simplest of facts.

That means I've been wasting my time providing facst you.
o It's like me trying to tell you not only that the lemon-juice trick doens't work, 
o But I've been going to the trouble to explain the chemistry of why.

I was doomed to fail, Diesel.
Doomed.

*All of you, in essence, believe that the lemon-juice trick _still_ works!*

> Due to that, and only that, I opted not to 
> provide you any specific details concerning sharing your Android 
> device internal/external memory over your network via a drive letter 
> mount. 

Hehhehheh ... Hi Diesel,

First off, I will be blunt ... you _never_ knew _anything_ whatsoever.

I need to say that clearly - not for you - as you won't believe it.
But for the others to comprehend that you know absolutely nothing.

Having said that, you proved time and again that you couldn't even tell us
the single *critical* step I had missed in outlining the tutorial for how
to access the _entire_ device system contents. But don't feel badly.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/K0NZ0nb1pWw/c7QERMymCQAJ>

Every single one of the people on the affected newsgroup didn't know.
Not Paul. Not Mike Easter. Not you. Not Nospam. Not Rene. Not Char.
o Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed)
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/K0NZ0nb1pWw/OBpoi3i8CAAJ>

Nobody knew.
And that's OK.

HINT: To this very day, 99.9% of you _still_ don't know how to do it.
(Even though I explained it all in gory detail - including the key trick.)

NOTE: The problem is almost never Android or Windows or Linux; it's iOS:
o How to easily archive your iOS device and/or how to use your iOS device as a free USB stick (read & write)?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/5hE4byjF930/NLdxBd8NCwAJ>

But _you_, Diesel, you said it was trivial and that it was something you
knew for a long time - which is ok - that's fine - but you only _beleived_
you knew ... when you proved - beyond a shadow of a doubt that you didn't.

Don't feel too badly.
Nobody knew.

That's why it's a big deal that I found it out (on the net).
(I didn't come up with it either - I just put the pieces together.)

I didn't know either - until I found it out about a year or two ago.

The funny thing is that you "claimed" to know - but you didn't, and yet, 
I had _posted_ it *years* ago - which is how I had to find it to remember
it because I had _forgotten_ that critical step, which isn't needed if you
move files to VLC but it is needed to write to iOS protected storage.

> I've also noticed, you have so far, failed to be able do that 
> on your own. 

Hi Diesel,
Hehhehheh... I _love_ when you prove my point!

You don't even _realize_ that I _always_ could "mount" any Android file
system onto Windows as a "drive letter" (using a variety of WiFi and USB
methods).

Always.

I was mainly asking to _communicate_ that skill to others here.
And to seek _improvements_ to the process.

Often, people like Paul or Mike Easter will suggest valuable improvements.
In this case, I don't think they did - so I learned nothing - but you
_should_ have learned how to do what I've been doing for years.

In fact, I'm on record, as I recall, stating that _only_ Frank Slootweg (of
all people, actually), _understood_ even the _problem set_ for Christs'
sake.

How long was that thread, Diesel?
Maybe 100 posts? 200? I don't recall (there were a few threads).

And yet, out of, oh, say 25 distinct posters, only TWO (Frank & I)
understood the problem set (where Mike Easter & Paul understood the
Windows/Linux side also).

Do you see I'm swimming in a sea of fools, Diesel?
You, and the other fools _think_ you comprehend.

And yet, to this day, _only_ Frank Slootweg comprehended the problem set.

BTW, as an aside, I'm only explaining the truth - which is that few people
_cared_ to comprehend the problem set - or - they didn't have to deal with
both Android & iOS along with Windows & Linux (which is fine).

But my point is that Frank & I advanced our overall tribal knowledge.

The reason we can advance our combined tribal knowledge is that we
comprehend that we don't know everything.

You don't comprehend that yet, Diesel.
Neither do the likes of you in the peanut gallery.

> Evidently, you aren't anywhere near as smart as you 
> thought you were.

First off, many times I have been known to be on record for saying that I'm
only of average intelligence, if that. (I studied at the graduate level for
almost a decade and worked in the Silicon Valley for decades with truly
intelligent people - who are whom I compare myself with when I say they are
far more intelligent than I am - of that I have no doubt).

But you don't comprehend what I just said, Diesel.
You just don't.

What you think is me claiming I'm smart is me exasperatingly explaining
that you (and those like you) are frustrating to me, because (I thought),
your lack of ability to comprehend even the simplest of fact was due to
o Either you incessantly pull our leg (for your own Usenet amusement?), 
o Or, that you really are that unfathomably incredibly stupid.

It turns out that the actual reason is worse ... far worse (sadly).
o I've been approaching working with you the wrong way all along

No amount of facts about lemon-juice chemistry will sway you.
o You literally believe that the "lemon-juice" trick _still_ works!

*The epiphany is that you (pl) are the epitome of the left-side DK effect!*

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#59026

arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> news:q1rk2t$agb$1@news.mixmin.net
Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:18:38 GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote: 

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:14:44 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
> 
>> I can't speak for others, but, I'm far from stupid, Arlen. 
> 
> Hi Diesel (et al.),

Hello Arlen...
 
 
> I'm only going to respond to you, Diesel, and not to the drivel
> who may follow in your wake (e.g., Cybe R. Wizard, Dan Purgert,
> Jolly Roger, Tim Streater, Alan Browne, Alan Baker, nospam,
> haemactylus, Char Jackson, Rene Lamontagne, et al.), simply
> because the response to any one of you is the same as the response
> to all. 

I know some of the individuals you mentioned from prior 
conversations. At no time have I found any of the aforementioned 
people to be stupid, though. I don't even consider David Brooks or 
the Anoncoward stupid. misguided, certainly, but, stupid, heh, no. 
 
> Having said that, your claim that you're "not stupid" is
> instructive because all of you prove the point I was trying to
> make, which is: o *I used to think people like you on Usenet were
> either incredibly stupid,* o *Or, that you were simply pulling our
> legs by denying basic obvious fact* ...
> o *But now, I realize it's actually worse than that - far worse -
> in fact.* o You're incapable of _comprehending_ that you're
> incapable of comprehending. 

You aren't even making logical sense, Arlen...
 
> This is not meant as an insult; it's meant to underscore why I
> will no longer attempt to deal with the likes of you using cold
> hard facts. 

When you're actually able to present some cold hard facts, I'd be 
interested in reading them.
 
> You're not capable of _comprehending_ even the _simplest_ of
> facts. o Simply because you actually _think_ you do comprehend
> them! 
> 
> Do you understand the conundrum Diesel?

Arlen, you're writing gibberish. I don't process gibberish.
 
> Given that, my approach to responding to the likes of you was
> tactical: o If you were simply ignorant - I supplied facts to back
> up everything; o When you pulled our leg - I make it "less fun"
> for you. 

I'm not ignorant of any of the subjects you've asked about so far, 
Arlen. I have viable and working solutions to each problem you've 
presented thus far. I've intentionally withheld such information from 
you, for a very simple reason. That I've previously stated.

> I was hoping for one of two effects depending on the reason you
> were immune to basic facts...

I'm not immune to facts, basic or otherwise Arlen. I prefer dealing 
in facts, myself.

> My tactics are well known and quite obvious:

Yes, you're a rudimentary skill level troll. You actually think that 
grade school level insults, ad nausem, will convince one or more of 
us to hold your hand so that you can complete one of any number of 
projects you've opted to do. Life doesn't work that way, but, for 
some silly reason, you think it will online.

> In the case of confronting your bullying tactics, Diesel,

My refusal to just give you the answers along with an idiot proof set 
of instructions to map a drive letter to your Androids accessable 
internal/external memory doesn't make me a bully. It makes me an 
individual who believes I should teach you to fish so that you can 
feed yourself, not do the fishing for you. There's a difference, and, 
you don't comprehend that.

> As you do now ... where you never add even a single iota of 
> on-topic value to the thread conversation.

You asked about a way to move pictures from internal memory to 
external memory if the built in camera app wouldn't let you change 
the location. I provided what you incorrectly labeled as a 'file 
redirector'. It doesn't redirect a damn thing. It waits for the file 
to be saved where you selected and then it moves it where you wanted 
it. I provided you several options to choose from, and I took the 
time to test them on my own equipment. Works as advertised. 

After you incorrectly labeled them as file redirectors, I heard 
nothing else from you on the subject. You can't even use the proper 
terminology to describe what it is you do/don't want, Arlen.

> o For example, remember this "Snit" video?

I'm not Snit.

> In fact, in reference to what you're alluding to, I accidentally
> left out a key step which I repeatedly _challenged_ you on when
> you said you could perform the task - where absolutely _none_ of
> you drivel knew what I was talking about.

The key step was the 3rd party driver which isn't universal that was 
necessary. And, it didn't provide you full access to the device, 
either. It provided you what amounts to userland access and only 
that. I mentioned that sometime ago in a follow up post to your 
previous challenge. Either you didn't read it, or, you did and are 
lying about that now with your accusation that I didn't know what you 
were writing about. I went a step further and told you flat out that 
not all linux distros supported it out of the box, because they 
didn't include the software, too. 

The linux distro you've opted to use isn't the only one in existance 
and isn't the most popular, either. Just because you can do something  
you think is out of the box on your distro doesn't mean everyone else 
can with theirs. And, I told you that then, too.
 
> Very few people can answer my questions.. Very very few.
> Paul. David Empson. Mike Easter, Marek (bless his soul) ... 
> (the list of purposefully helpful intelligent people is rather
> short). 

Oh please, you don't think those people know you're trying to kiss 
their ass cheeks? You'd love it if they'd just give you complete step 
by step instructions for each problem you present. 

I mean no offense to anyone from your list, but, I don't even think 
they'd all agree with you concerning superior I.T knowledge over my 
own. I have a proven track record, that you still seem to know 
nothing about, despite supposedly being on usenet for decades. Just 
too funny.

> Certainly the likes of you, Diesel, will _never_ be able to.
> o People like you never _intend_ to add to the tribal knowledge
> o People like you _can't_ add to the tribal knowledge.

Tsk Tsk...Once again, you make those statements only because you have 
no idea who I am. You've made the grave mistake of dismissing me as 
some usenet troll who's out to fuck with you. I'm neither.
 
>> You were incapable of being a responsible adult and 
>> issuing an apology. 
> 
> Hehhehheh... An apology Diesel?

Yes. For smarting off. Where I come from, smarting off to people you 
don't know doesn't make those people do you any favors until you make 
things right with them. I realize you're in cali, so perhaps your 
line of thinking is a little different there. An absurd issue of 
entitlement perhaps? Too many trophies given to you just for 
participating, perhaps.
 
> I have absolutely no problem apologizing when I make factual
> mistakes. None.

Yes, you clearly do. You wrote some childish insults towards me in 
another thread, where you were asking how to mount an Androids 
internal/external memory as a drive letter so you can do more with 
the files present. I responded that I had several ways in which you 
could accomplish this, just like you wanted, but, I'd need an apology 
for your shitty comments before I'd fork over the information.

I made a very simple, easy, request of you. It wasn't something you 
were capable of doing, so, being true to my word, I didn't provide 
you specific information on how to do what you wanted to do.

And, as far as I'm aware, you've yet to find someone else to help you 
do it, because you sure as hell haven't gotten it figured out on your 
own. I haven't seen any posts from you crowing about it, or listing 
mind numbing boring toddler step by step details on any of the 
methods for doing it. That tells me, months later, you still don't 
know how.
 
> I've been studying people like you for decades because, as you
> know, I worked for decades in the Silicon Valley, with truly
> intelligent people, after having gone to the best schools in this
> country, with trully intelligent people, after having grown up in
> some of the most expensive locations in the country, again,
> populated by truly intelligent people. 

BAWAHAHAHAHA. Thanks Arlen, that bullshit was highly entertaining. I 
think I hit the nail on the head with my cali comment above. Tell me 
something, have you ever lived outside the state of cali? It's a big 
world and cali is only a small part of it. Personally, if cali broke 
off and sank into the ocean tomorrow, I'd be okay with that. I can't 
think of much good that comes from cali...I can think of alot of 
bullshit though. Don't even get me started on the scary guns laws you 
cali people like to pass...way too much pussification in that state.
 
> Compared to them, I'm of average intelligence, if even that.
> I've never said otherwise.

I think you give yourself a bit too much credit there, Arlen. 
Javascript isn't hard, mapping drive letters to various types of 
devices isn't that difficult either. It's childsplay. 

If you want me to take you as a serious programmer, show me something 
real; some nice asm, c++, something along those lines. I'd even 
accept a nice asic source to something that is cool. A fractal 
generator, a .wav player, something along those lines; because you 
can't call an API and ask windows to do it for you in that language. 
[g] Not some lame ass, idiot friendly scripting language intended to 
be used by those who have no real coding skills and have no interest 
in learning the software and hardware relationship.

> But people like you, Diesel, are so far below those people I just
> mentioned (who actually _are_ intelligent), that it still boggles
> my mind how fantastically incomprehensive people like you are.

h0h0h0. That's your problem, Arlen. You write shit all the time, and 
it's pure shit. I've done alot of work for silicon valley people from 
the comfort of my home, way the hell away from cali. They recruit me 
for these jobs, Arlen. I don't apply to them.

I may not have the most pleasant attitude on usenet towards some 
individuals, but, those companies aren't paying me for my attitude or 
lack of one. They pay me for the technical expertise I have. 
Technical expertise I earned by being in the trenches of the I.T 
world since I was still single digit age. many many years before it 
was 'cool' to know anything about computers. Many years before 
Windows, too.
 
> You're immune to facts.

My entire world deals with facts, for the most part. Electrical 
theory aside (it's mostly fact, with a few exceptions to the rule).

> People like you, Diesel, and people like you abound, are incapable
> of comprehending even the _simplest_ of the simplest of the
> simplest of facts. 

You're writing shit, again. Pure shit.
 
>> Due to that, and only that, I opted not to 
>> provide you any specific details concerning sharing your Android 
>> device internal/external memory over your network via a drive
>> letter mount. 
> 
> Hehhehheh ... Hi Diesel,
> 
> First off, I will be blunt ... you _never_ knew _anything_
> whatsoever. 

That's funny, because right now, I'm copying a document from my 
external android memory to one of my linux machines across the 
network. The linux machine actually sees it as a network drive share. 
[g] And, the Windows XP (XP no less Arlen) machine sees the Android 
device as two drive letters; one for internal one for external. And, 
the XP machine isn't playing host to the device, another linux box 
is. I could have set the Windows box up as the host though, very 
little configuration difference between the two.

How are you coming along with it, since you asked how to do it months 
ago? Got even one version of it working, yet?

Btw, yes, all of the computers on this network have full read/write 
access to the Android mapped shares. It would be pointless for them 
not to.
 
> I need to say that clearly - not for you - as you won't believe
> it. But for the others to comprehend that you know absolutely
> nothing. 

That's another problem you have, Arlen. Various people you've 
mentioned, including the likes of Mike Easter do infact know me, and 
they also know I'm not full of shit. Mike knows alot about me, 
actually. Even including some.. not so nice things I'm responsible 
for. I think you'll be very hard pressed to find him agreeing with 
you concerning my so called stupidity concerning I.T. Why don't you 
ask him? :)
 
> Having said that, you proved time and again that you couldn't even
> tell us the single *critical* step I had missed in outlining the
> tutorial for how to access the _entire_ device system contents.

You didn't access the entire device contents at any time. You were 
only able to access userland. No magical driver is going to be able 
to override that for you. It's not upto the driver, it's upto the 
device. Short of rooting an Android device, you are not going to have 
full access to it. And you damn sure aren't given free reign on Apple 
products either. Not by a long shot. And incidently, rooting an 
Android device doesn't give you god like powers over it entirely 
either. You still don't have full, unrestricted access to do whatever 
the hell you want. Some of the firmware contents still remains 
outside your reach.

> Every single one of the people on the affected newsgroup didn't
> know. Not Paul. Not Mike Easter. Not you. Not Nospam. Not Rene.
> Not Char. o Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files
> back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native
> devices (no proprietary software needed) 
>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/K0NZ0nb1pWw/OBp
>  oi3i8CAAJ> 

Actually, my first comment on that was why you thought you discovered 
something new. I also asked why you called it 'sliding'; when 
copy/paste or cut/paste is already well established and requires no 
additional explanation. I also went onto describe situations where 
your solution doesn't work as advertised on ALL windows and linux 
platforms, as you originally claimed. 

When you learned that XP won't mount newer Android devices on it's 
own without help, and various distros of Linux (Mint 17.3 for 
example) won't either, you attempted to move the goalposts and rule 
XP out (even though it IS a version of Windows and you previously 
claimed your method worked on ALL flavors as you wrote it) and you 
then opted to specify the particular distro of linux that you use, 
only because you learned from me (haha, I was the first to mention 
either of those two things) that various other linux distros may/may 
not support what you want to do depending on android device and 
version, without additional software that isn't included with the 
distro. 

I went a step further though, I even used one of my own android 
devices that runs an older copy of Android; you dismissed it as a 
result with another goalpost move. At the end of the day though, it 
became quite clear that your so called universal method of exchanging 
files via usb for windows, linux, Android isn't as universal as you 
once assumed; because you haven't got the hands on real world 
experience with various systems, including various Android devices 
that don't always play nicely with each other, even if you think they 
should.

> HINT: To this very day, 99.9% of you _still_ don't know how to do
> it. (Even though I explained it all in gory detail - including the
> key trick.) 

You didn't explain anything of the sort. Several of us commented 
about additional software your distro of linux has, that various 
other distros do not always come with.
 
> But _you_, Diesel, you said it was trivial and that it was
> something you knew for a long time - which is ok - that's fine -
> but you only _beleived_ you knew ... when you proved - beyond a
> shadow of a doubt that you didn't. 

I did say it was trivial (as did several others) and I have known how 
to do it for a very long time. So long infact, I forgot it was worth 
mentioning in a long post on usenet. I figured everybody knew how to 
use usb to copy/move files between various devices they owned...
 
> I didn't know either - until I found it out about a year or two
> ago. 

ROFL. I've been moving data back and forth between Windows, Linux, 
Android, and the god awful (I'm not an apple fan) macOS for years 
Arlen. It's not new to me, and not something I recently learned how 
to do. 
 
> The funny thing is that you "claimed" to know - but you didn't,

Indeed, I did. I also offered to provide you full details using 
several different methods on mapping a drive letter to your Android 
device. I requested one thing from you in return. An apology for some 
assinine comments you previously wrote. You weren't emotionally 
mature enough to issue an apology, so, I elected not to provide you 
with help on that project. A project you've still managed to fail to 
accomplish, I'll remind you.

> You don't even _realize_ that I _always_ could "mount" any Android
> file system onto Windows as a "drive letter" (using a variety of
> WiFi and USB methods).

Your previous posts don't support that conclusion. Infact, they show 
that you weren't able to do this and tried various means in order to 
accomplish it. The only thing you actually did (that I found funny as 
all hell) was teach pooh that net supported webdav and has for 
decades now. [g]

I don't know if you did that because pooh suggested utilities that 
wouldn't on a cold snowy day in hell give you a mounted drive letter, 
but you sure gave them a shot. :)

You have not been succesful mounting a drive letter to your android 
device for read/write access. Let's not split hairs, that's what you 
wanted to do, that's what you spent a considerable amount of time 
trying to do, that's what you've continued to FAIL AT DOING.

Where as I, and several others (Carlos being another) have succeeded 
in doing this, and are able to take advantage of the fruits of our 
labor. We have drive letter mounts to our Android device. You do not.
 
> Often, people like Paul or Mike Easter will suggest valuable
> improvements. In this case, I don't think they did - so I learned
> nothing - but you _should_ have learned how to do what I've been
> doing for years. 

I've been a certified (really) technician for nearly twenty (that's 
just one cert, I've got several actually) years now. What you've 
asked of the groups several times now is all childs play to me and 
many of my peers. It's old news to us, been done and done to death. 
We don't think anything of it. 
 
> And yet, out of, oh, say 25 distinct posters, only TWO (Frank & I)
> understood the problem set (where Mike Easter & Paul understood
> the Windows/Linux side also).

I realize you have a problem with giving credit where it's due if you 
have a personal issue with someone, but, it was ME, not them who 
first clued you in about Windows and linux not being as universal to 
your so called, method as you originally thought.
 
> Do you see I'm swimming in a sea of fools, Diesel?

You're swimming alone, actually. 

> BTW, as an aside, I'm only explaining the truth - which is that
> few people _cared_ to comprehend the problem set - or - they
> didn't have to deal with both Android & iOS along with Windows &
> Linux (which is fine). 

I have to deal with various operating systems on a daily basis, along 
with a slew of internet of thing devices that people just can't seem 
to not waste their damn money on. I have to make sure all those 
stupid things people buy will talk to devices that are already in 
service on various networks I'm responsible for.

You just screw off as a hobbyist, you aren't responsible for 
supporting much more than your own personal gear and perhaps that of 
a few neighbors who come to you for assistance. My workload on a good 
day isn't anywhere near as small.
 
> But my point is that Frank & I advanced our overall tribal
> knowledge. 

Frank gained nothing of value from the conversation. I was there too, 
Arlen. You and you alone gained information from the rest of us, but, 
did not credit all those who provided it.
 

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#59032

Diesel wrote:
> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> news:q1rk2t$agb$1@news.mixmin.net
>> I'm only going to respond to you, Diesel, and not to the drivel
>> who may follow in your wake (e.g., Cybe R. Wizard, Dan Purgert,
>> Jolly Roger, Tim Streater, Alan Browne, Alan Baker, nospam,
>> haemactylus, Char Jackson, Rene Lamontagne, et al.), simply
>> because the response to any one of you is the same as the response
>> to all. 
>
> I know some of the individuals you mentioned from prior 
> conversations. At no time have I found any of the aforementioned 
> people to be stupid, though. I don't even consider David Brooks or 
> the Anoncoward stupid. misguided, certainly, but, stupid, heh, no. 

I'm definitely stupid, the proof is in responding to arlen.

Or is that insane?  

> [...]
> Either you didn't read it, or, you did and are 
> lying about that now with your accusation that I didn't know what you 
> were writing about. 

It probably goes back to arlen holder not using the right words.  Cue a
new post about "increasing the tribal knowledge", wherein he describes,
oh I don't know, let's say  "Internet Time Synchronization" ("ITS").

>> Very few people can answer my questions.. Very very few.
>> Paul. David Empson. Mike Easter, Marek (bless his soul) ... 
>> (the list of purposefully helpful intelligent people is rather
>> short). 
>
> Oh please, you don't think those people know you're trying to kiss 
> their ass cheeks? You'd love it if they'd just give you complete step 
> by step instructions for each problem you present. 

Don't they do just that?  I mean, I know Marek was quite thourough when
he was explaining something, and Mike is as well.

>  
>> I've been studying people like you for decades because, as you
>> know, I worked for decades in the Silicon Valley [...]

Oh, California.  This explains so very much.A

Prop 65 warning - Usenet is known to the state of California to cause
cancer.

> [...]
> If you want me to take you as a serious programmer, show me something 
> real; some nice asm, c++, something along those lines. I'd even 
> accept a nice asic source to something that is cool. A fractal 
> generator, a .wav player, something along those lines; because you 
> can't call an API and ask windows to do it for you in that language. 
> [g] Not some lame ass, idiot friendly scripting language intended to 
> be used by those who have no real coding skills and have no interest 
> in learning the software and hardware relationship.

Just in case, I'd add "arduino doesn't count", personally. It has a
pretty hefty amount of "help".

>
> That's another problem you have, Arlen. Various people you've 
> mentioned, including the likes of Mike Easter do infact know me, and 
> they also know I'm not full of shit. Mike knows alot about me, 
> actually. Even including some.. not so nice things I'm responsible 
> for. 

Great Lord Cthulhu, you're not involved with systemd are you?


>
> I went a step further though, I even used one of my own android 
> devices that runs an older copy of Android; you dismissed it as a 
> result with another goalpost move. At the end of the day though, it 
> became quite clear that your so called universal method of exchanging 

s/exchanging/sliding/

 HTH. HAND. :)

> [...]
>> HINT: To this very day, 99.9% of you _still_ don't know how to do
>> it. (Even though I explained it all in gory detail - including the
>> key trick.) 
>
> You didn't explain anything of the sort. Several of us commented 
> about additional software your distro of linux has, that various 
> other distros do not always come with.

Some of us commented that "wait, physically plug it in!?" was also a
downside.  I'm Lazy (capital 'l' on purpose), and don't wanna be walking
upstairs to the laptop to plug in my phone to transfer media (or
whatever) to the laptop's harddrive nextcloud folder to then let the
laptop sync with said service.

>  
>> I didn't know either - until I found it out about a year or two
>> ago. 
>
> ROFL. I've been moving data back and forth between Windows, Linux, 
> Android, and the god awful (I'm not an apple fan) macOS for years 
> Arlen. It's not new to me, and not something I recently learned how 
> to do. 

I think I was maybe six when I learned one could click and drag a
document from "go away this is my stuff" to "A:/".

Maybe about ten when I learned "ctrl+A -> right click -> select 'print'"
would print all the things without opening them. (Major apologies in
advance for triggering a new "tutorial".)

>  [...]
>> Do you see I'm swimming in a sea of fools, Diesel?
>
> You're swimming alone, actually. 

With sharks (do do do do ... OHGOD MAKE IT STOP!)

> [...]
> and perhaps that of a few neighbors who come to you for assistance. 

Perish the thought.


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#59293

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:29:26 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> I don't know the answer.

Finally a truthful statement from the evil liar.  See the lie here:
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>

wherein it makes the claim of having written TEN THOUSAND tutorials.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil.
	Marcus Tullius Cicero

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#59295

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:17:43 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> Finally a truthful statement from the evil liar.

Cybe(r) Wizard,

The question is _why_ you consistently prove to own the mind of a child?

I don't need to prove it as _you_ prove it for me with _every_ statement.

*You consistently prove you revel in worthless childish amusements.*

Your list of childish cohorts prove to be the same in this very thread:
o Jasen Betts, 
o Dan Purgert, 
o Diesel,
o Rene Lamontagne, 
o Wolf K
o & Jolly Roger.

Why is that _this_ list of childish drivel _always_ prove my point?

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