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  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-17 23:14 +0000
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-18 00:12 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 00:58 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 19:29 -0600
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 14:29 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 20:55 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 16:02 -0500
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 01:14 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 00:32 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:41 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 20:49 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:38 -0600
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 15:50 -0600
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:59 -0600
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 22:06 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:09 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:07 +0000
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 18:27 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 19:16 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:50 +0000
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:34 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:54 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:49 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 13:39 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-24 06:10 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-01-25 09:14 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 17:42 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:02 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 15:54 -0600
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 16:41 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:21 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:48 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:51 -0600
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:14 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-25 16:34 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-25 11:49 -0500
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:02 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 22:41 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 17:14 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:08 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:11 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:17 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:16 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-25 20:41 +0100
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 02:02 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-02-15 19:15 -0600
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:46 -0800
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-18 04:18 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 15:01 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:17 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000

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#59249

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 00:07:47 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> > ...but then:
>> > "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
>> > 	David Hume  
>> 
>> Who ever said you were wise? :-p
>> 
> I thought it to be obvious that I am /NOT/ proportioning my belief to
> the evidence and so assuredly am not wise if I am still thinking him to
> be salvageable.

Good news, by adnitting your own human fallibility, you've passed the
Turing Test.

And have also proven you're not a lizardman.


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#59263

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 02:00:42 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:

> And have also proven you're not a lizardman.

Hi Dan Purgert,

 Moving on to the third reputed iOS SMB client in the list, 
o iFiles 2
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ifiles-2-file-manager-cloud/id1104795347?mt=8>

It's a $7 app so it doesn't fit the problem set.

Moving on to the fourth reputed iOS SMB client in the list, 
o  File Hub by imoreapps
<https://itunes.apple.com/app/file-hub-powerful-intuitive-file-manager/id730843281>

1. I open the File Hub (by imoreapps) first
2. At top left is a button called "Cloud Files" which I click
3. A "Cloud Files" section opens with a "+" button, which I click
4. An "Add Server" selection opens with "Windows SMB" which I click
5. A "Go Premium" form pops up asking for $5 
Below that is a dead button for "Accessing Samba/NAS Server".

So that's two more SMBv2/v3 failures on iOS.
o iFiles 2 = FAIL
o  File Hub by imoreapps = FAIL

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#59265

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 07:50:52 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> So that's two more SMBv2/v3 failures on iOS.
> o iFiles 2 = FAIL
> o  File Hub by imoreapps = FAIL

Oops. Cancel that.

All of Dan Purgert's posts are the same, so I posted this to the wrong
thread (he _never_ says _anything_ of any on-topic technical value).

Mea culpa.

I'm done posting to this thread - so I apologize for responding to Dan.

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#59267

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 07:56:47 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> I'm done posting to this thread -

Please, let that be the case for all threads.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
We lie loudest when we lie to ourselves.
	Eric Hoffer

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#59271

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 07:56:47 -0000 (UTC)
> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm done posting to this thread -
>
> Please, let that be the case for all threads.

And channels, in general.


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#59268

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 07:56:47 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> Mea culpa.

See how easy that is?  It would be just as easy for you to admit that
you've lied all along about writing TEN THOUSAND tutorials in
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>.

Go on; you can do it.  Man up and admit you lied.

The instant that you show a viable list of TEN THOUSAND tutorials that
YOU have written I will shut up about it, I guarantee and promise. 

Be a man and 'fess up to being a liar otherwise.

Failing to do either, you are just and only a liar.  ...and not much of
a man, either.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying
that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders
	<Alanna>

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#59273

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 07:56:47 -0000 (UTC)
> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>
>> Mea culpa.
>
> See how easy that is?  It would be just as easy for you to admit that

Except immediately before, he lied again.  

I think that this propane (gaseous) I have is considerably thicker than
the veracity of arlen's statement.


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#59256

On 2019-01-23, Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2019 22:06:01 GMT
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2019-01-23, Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:50:30 -0600
>> > Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:  
>> >> On 01/23/2019 3:38 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:  
>> >>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:41:28 -0000 (UTC)
>> >>> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>> >>>     
>> >>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> >>>>    
>> >>>>> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;    
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cybe R Wizard,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R
>> >>>> Wizard.*
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cybe R Wizard, 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_
>> >>>> value to any thread.    
>> >>> 
>> >>> There;s always value is showing liars to be liars.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Therefore, here is one of your lies, claiming to have personally
>> >>> written TEN THOUSAND tutorials: Message-ID:
>> >>> <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
>> >>>     
>> >>>> 2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.    
>> >>> 
>> >>> Negative toward you, I will readily admit.  Shut me up.  Go ahead;
>> >>> you know how.  I've explicitly told you haw.  Just do it.
>> >>>     
>> >>>> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post
>> >>>> value.    
>> >>> 
>> >>> You fail once again, then.  You haven't alienated me, Ardline, if
>> >>> fact, just the opposite.  I am closer and closer to you daily,
>> >>> living right there inside your head each time you admit to
>> >>> yourself that I am right about you being a liar.  You /KNOW/ that
>> >>> it's true.    
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cybe R Wizard, You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of
>> >>>> value in every post.    
>> >>> 
>> >>> The great value of showing liars to be liars is ongoing and at
>> >>> least an honest endeavor.   That it is incomprehensible TO /YOU/
>> >>> is pretty telling, too.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Cybe R. Wizard
>> >>>     
>> >> 
>> >> Hey Cybe, Whilst your there inside his head maybe you can rattle up
>> >> his one and a half brain cells, might help, but again maybe not,
>> >> but thanks for trying.  :-)
>> >> 
>> >> Rene  
>> >
>> > I appreciate your support.  I /AM/ trying to get him to grow up and
>> > be a man about his lying, but is seeming pretty hopeless.  He
>> > really is far gone.
>> >
>> > Cybe R. Wizard  
>> 
>> You're wasting your time with him. He's a lost cause.
>> 
> Hope springs eternal.  I am an optimist most times.
> I /almost/ believe in him.

Don't. 

From what he's written here I have the follwing understanding.

"The funnel" is his strategy to stop detractors from
"spoiling" his main thread with the truth, he does this by trolling in
the undesirable (to him) offshoots.

"The mirror" is his childish "tit-for-tat" response to any perceived 
slight with insults and silly demands.  "the mirror" is not subject
to review or appeal. There are no appologies to those falsely accused.
Even a child can be expected to appologise, this behaviour is
infantile.

The guy's a troll plain and simple.



I'm sure fun could be has by messing with the "References:" headers

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#59297

I've discovered I can get through long lists quickly by only opening posts
by known rational people.....


-- 
biblioholic medievalist via iPad

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#59303

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:14:17 -0600, Erilar wrote:

> I've discovered I can get through long lists quickly by only opening posts
> by known rational people.....

Hi Erilar,
You haven't posted in a while (at least not as Erilar you haven't, or, at
least on the iOS-related newsgroups, as I recall).

Hope you're doing well.

I wonder which of the Applers below you would consider "rational" people?
o Alan Baker
o Alan Browne
o BK at OnRamp
o Chris
o Hemidactylus
o joe
o Jolly Roger
o Lloyd
o nospam
o Tim Streater
o Wade Garrett
o Your Name
o et al.

It would be interesting to learn what you think makes them "rational".

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#59238

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> On 01/23/2019 3:38 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:41:28 -0000 (UTC)
>> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;
>>>
>>> Cybe R Wizard,
>>>
>>> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R
>>> Wizard.*
>>>
>>> Cybe R Wizard,
>>> 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_ value to any thread.
>> 
>> There;s always value is showing liars to be liars.
>> 
>> Therefore, here is one of your lies, claiming to have personally written
>> TEN THOUSAND tutorials:
>> Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
>> 
>>> 2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.
>> 
>> Negative toward you, I will readily admit.  Shut me up.  Go ahead; you
>> know how.  I've explicitly told you haw.  Just do it.
>> 
>>> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post value.
>> 
>> You fail once again, then.
>> You haven't alienated me, Ardline, if fact, just the opposite.  I am
>> closer and closer to you daily, living right there inside your head
>> each time you admit to yourself that I am right about you being a
>> liar.  You /KNOW/ that it's true.
>>>
>>> Cybe R Wizard,
>>> You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of value in every post.
>> 
>> The great value of showing liars to be liars is ongoing and at least an
>> honest endeavor.   That it is incomprehensible TO /YOU/ is pretty
>> telling, too.
>> 
>> Cybe R. Wizard
>> 
>
> Hey Cybe, Whilst your there inside his head maybe you can rattle up his 
> one and a half brain cells, might help, but again maybe not, but thanks 
> for trying.  :-)
>
> Rene

Are you willing to risk up to 2/3 of his mental capacity? Could prove
disastrous, what with getting new threads concerning 

  *BRILLIANT method of communicating with people remotely 
    (aka a telephone)

  *ASTOUNDING method of sending text instantly to other people
    (aka email)
  
  *AMAZING method for allowing disparate devices to share data
    (802.3 and 802.11)


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#59281

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:38:20 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> Facts.

Are decidedly /NOT/ your forte.
> 
> As I claimed prior, there can only be three possibilities:

YOur claiming a thing does /NOT/ make that thing true.

> a. Either people really _are_ that incredibly stupid, or

Some people are.  Looking right at /YOU/.
, 
> b. They are simply pulling our leg for their own Usenet amusement, or

While that would be simplicity, itself, such is not necessarily the
case here.

> c. They really are left-side Dunning Kruger poster children...

The Dunning/Kruger effect is just that, a psychological EFFECT which is
not graphed or even graph-able.  To insist (as you continually do) on a
left side/right side differentiation shows your own cognitive bias of
your questionable competence.  The D/K effect concerns ignorance vs
learned-ness, not intelligence.
Read up a little.  I did so and learned something:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Cybe R. Wizard -still not so sure
-- 
"The Enemies of Truth. — Convictions are more dangerous enemies of
truth than lies."
	 Friedrich Nietzsche

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#59283

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:54:43 -0600
"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:

> The Dunning/Kruger effect is just that, a psychological EFFECT which
> is not graphed or even graph-able.

Such proves not to be the case:
https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2017/08/20/the-real-dunning-kruger-graph/

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
The idea that education will lead to a lessening of bigotry is just
factually incorrect. 
	Reza Aslan

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#59299

Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:54:43 -0600
> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> The Dunning/Kruger effect is just that, a psychological EFFECT which
>> is not graphed or even graph-able.
> 
> Such proves not to be the case:
> https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2017/08/20/the-real-dunning-kruger-graph/

Nice. Thanks for the link.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#59312

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:42:06 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> Hi Cybe(r) Wizard,
> 
> Notwithstanding the fact that _one_ tutorial, is far more than you've
> contributed, what's amazing is your complete & utter lack of
> comprehension.

I perceive and fully comprehend that it would be almost an impossibility
for one person to have written TEN THOUSAND tutorials as you have
claimed in:
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>

Help me comprehend otherwise by showing us that list.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Comprehension follows perception.
	Philip K. Dick

“Truth is only relative to those that ignore hard evidence.” 
	A.E. Samaan

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#59313

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:58:23 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> The reason you only see me treating you as a child, should be obvious.

Good grief.  LEARN SOME GRAMMAR!

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
My other computer is a HOLMES IV

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#59292

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:11:31 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> Whom am I talking about who _never_ adds on-topic technical value?
> o Snit, nospam, Jolly Roger, Dan Purgert, Cybe R Wizard, Char
> Jackson, o Wolf K., Alan Baker, Tim Streater, Alan Browne,
> Savageduck, Wade Garrett, o BK at OnRamp, Lloyd, Hemidactylus, Your
> Name, John Doe, Rene Lamantagne o Jasen Betts, Wolf K, Rudy Weiser,
> Good Guy, Diesel, et al.

Oh, look, it has an enemies list just as most evil lying semi-men do.

Cybe R. Wizard -happyily opposing evil wannabe-men
-- 
A good man would prefer to be defeated than to defeat injustice by evil
means. 
	Sallust

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#59296

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:14:36 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> Oh, look, it has an enemies list just as most evil lying semi-men do.

Yet again, Cybe(r) Wizard, you prove to miscomprehend adult concepts.

Let me ask the *adults* on this newsgroup *how* to respond to that?
1. Either Cybe is _incredibly_ stupid  (but nobody is _that_ stupid), or, 
2. Cybe is just playing silly childish semantic games (for what gain?), 
3. Or, Cybe lacks comprehension of even the simplest of things.

*How does an adult even _respond_ to people like Cybe?*
A. Nobody can be _that_ incredibly stupid as what he writes indicates he is.
B. Yet, what gain would he attain by purposefully acting _that_ stupid?
C. Is it simply that there is absolutely no response he can comprehend?

The question is important for the main reason that I ask Q&A questions.
o People like Cybe prove to be (see list below) infest those Q&A threads.
o Both ignoring & respondin gto them detracts from attaining an answer.
o Yet, only they communicate amongst themselves in ways _they_ comprehend.

Sure, my tactic of making it "less fun" for them is my main approach.
o Where, I ignore drivel in chit-chat threads that other people post
o But ignoring them in Q&A threads defeats the point of the Q&A

Hence, one needs to _respond_ to these type of people (somehow):
o Snit, nospam, Jolly Roger, Dan Purgert, Cybe R Wizard, Char Jackson, 
o Wolf K., Alan Baker, Tim Streater, Alan Browne, Savageduck, Wade Garrett, 
o BK at OnRamp, Lloyd, Hemidactylus, Your Name, John Doe, Rene Lamantagne
o Jasen Betts, Wolf K, Rudy Weiser, Good Guy, Diesel, "joe", et al.

But how?

The fact is:
A. They prove to be incredibly stupid - so facts can't ever work with them;
B. They prove to own the mind of a child - so admonishment won't work;
C. They prove to not even _comprehend_ that they don't understand anything.

How then, does one get these utterly worthless posters to "just go away"?

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#59301

On 2019-01-25, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
...
>
> How then, does one get these utterly worthless posters to "just go away"?

You know, in this thread we have all been wondering that. 

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#59302

On 2019-01-25 11:34, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2019-01-25, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> ...
>>
>> How then, does one get these utterly worthless posters to "just go away"?
> 
> You know, in this thread we have all been wondering that.
> 

Arlen doesn't get irony.

But as one of those worthless posters, I will abandon this thread. It's 
been fun while it lasted.

-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
People worry that computers will get too smart
and take over the world, but the real problem is
that they’re too stupid and they’ve already taken over
the world (Pedro Domingos)

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