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| Started by | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| First post | 2018-08-10 09:35 -0400 |
| Last post | 2018-08-19 21:31 -0400 |
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Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2018-08-10 09:35 -0400
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-10 10:19 -0400
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2018-08-10 18:05 -0500
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-10 19:19 -0400
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2018-08-19 15:23 -0400
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 15:38 -0400
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2018-08-19 20:44 -0400
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 20:54 -0400
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2018-08-19 20:21 -0500
Re: Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 21:31 -0400
| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 09:35 -0400 |
| Subject | Can Samsung SM-910C work with Tello? |
| Message-ID | <ht4rmdp4lt71sfv0dsp8m2hqodfslarhhk@4ax.com> |
When I try a lookup on Tello's phone validation with the IMEI of my Note 4, it says "No-Go". But elsewhere in the Tello pages, it suggests that just about any phone except for a few outliers like Blackberry will work. Seems like something around CDMA vs GSM, but I have no clue whether that is a phone-specific property, a SIM-specific property, and/or some phones can do both. Couple hundred bucks and Tello will supply me with a decent-sounding refurb, but I would much prefer to stick with my Note 4 and it's stylus. Can anybody shed some light? -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 10:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <100820181019178030%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54711 |
In article <ht4rmdp4lt71sfv0dsp8m2hqodfslarhhk@4ax.com>, (PeteCresswell) <x@y.Invalid> wrote: > When I try a lookup on Tello's phone validation with the IMEI of my Note 4, > it says "No-Go". ... > Can anybody shed some light? tello is a sprint mvno and phones must either be a sprint model or unlocked and whitelisted with sprint. either choose a new phone or choose a new carrier (one which isn't a sprint mvno).
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 18:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <dxa8r8t7r91y.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #54711 |
PeteCresswell wrote: > When I try a lookup on Tello's phone validation with the IMEI of my Note 4, > it says "No-Go". > > But elsewhere in the Tello pages, it suggests that just about any phone > except for a few outliers like Blackberry will work. > > Seems like something around CDMA vs GSM, but I have no clue whether that is a > phone-specific property, a SIM-specific property, and/or some phones can do > both. > > Couple hundred bucks and Tello will supply me with a decent-sounding refurb, > but I would much prefer to stick with my Note 4 and it's stylus. > > Can anybody shed some light? Tello is an MVNO (mobile virtual network operator): they resell services from other providers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator Tello uses Sprint's 4G LTE network (GSM). Yet I see Tello offers CDMA service by paying $10 for their Sprint CDMA SIM card (https://tello.com/bring_your_own_phone). AT&T already dropped CDMA, Verizon shuts if off in 2019. Haven't check when Sprint kills CDMA. https://apn.gishan.net/en/apn/tello/samsung-galaxy-note-4 Is your Note 4 and unlocked phone that can be used with any carrier, or is it a locked phone which means you can only use it with one carrier? If you buy one of their phones, they work with their service. If you have an unlocked phone, you can use their Bring-Your-Own-Phone setup (but you might have to buy the SIM card from them). If you have a phone that is locked to a particular carrier, that's the only one with whom you can use that phone.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 19:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <100820181919203326%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54714 |
In article <dxa8r8t7r91y.dlg@v.nguard.lh>, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: > > Tello uses Sprint's 4G LTE network (GSM). Yet I see Tello offers CDMA > service by paying $10 for their Sprint CDMA SIM card > (https://tello.com/bring_your_own_phone). they offer both, as does sprint, the service they're reselling. verizon, the other legacy cdma carrier, also offers both cdma and lte. > AT&T already dropped CDMA, at&t never offered cdma, so they could not have dropped it. what they did was drop 2g. > Verizon shuts if off in 2019. that part is true. > Haven't check when Sprint kills CDMA. you haven't checked much of anything.
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| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 15:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lqgjnd1thok9stp4mpkbltbrrau5podel2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #54714 |
Per VanguardLH: >Is your Note 4 and unlocked phone that can be used with any carrier, or >is it a locked phone which means you can only use it with one carrier? Unlocked from Day 1 - I bought it that way from B&H Photo. The more I read about Tello, the more I think their service is CDMA (whatever that means...) and I am now about 99 44/100ths percent sure that my Note 4 cannot do CDMA. Note 8, yes.... can go both ways... but not the Note 4. -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 15:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190820181538196552%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54893 |
In article <lqgjnd1thok9stp4mpkbltbrrau5podel2@4ax.com>, (PeteCresswell) <x@y.Invalid> wrote: > >Is your Note 4 and unlocked phone that can be used with any carrier, or > >is it a locked phone which means you can only use it with one carrier? > > Unlocked from Day 1 - I bought it that way from B&H Photo. > > The more I read about Tello, the more I think their service is CDMA (whatever > that means...) tello is a sprint mvno and uses lte with cdma fallback. > and I am now about 99 44/100ths percent sure that my Note 4 > cannot do CDMA. which note 4? exact model#. for it to work on tello, it needs to be either a sprint phone (lock status does not matter) or an non-sprint phone that has been both unlocked *and* whitelisted by sprint. the latter is most likely your situation. > Note 8, yes.... can go both ways... but not the Note 4. then use that.
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| From | "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 20:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fh3kndl68qk5aub3d9ud0qamme7pbik805@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #54894 |
Per nospam: >In article <lqgjnd1thok9stp4mpkbltbrrau5podel2@4ax.com>, >(PeteCresswell) <x@y.Invalid> wrote: > >> >Is your Note 4 and unlocked phone that can be used with any carrier, or >> >is it a locked phone which means you can only use it with one carrier? >> >> Unlocked from Day 1 - I bought it that way from B&H Photo. >> >> The more I read about Tello, the more I think their service is CDMA (whatever >> that means...) > >tello is a sprint mvno and uses lte with cdma fallback. > >> and I am now about 99 44/100ths percent sure that my Note 4 >> cannot do CDMA. > >which note 4? exact model#. SM-N910C - not a USA-specifuc model > >for it to work on tello, it needs to be either a sprint phone (lock >status does not matter) or an non-sprint phone that has been both >unlocked *and* whitelisted by sprint. the latter is most likely your >situation. > >> Note 8, yes.... can go both ways... but not the Note 4. > >then use that. Yeah, I will probably buy one - but $900....Ouch! -- Pete Cresswell
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 20:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190820182054536222%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54905 |
In article <fh3kndl68qk5aub3d9ud0qamme7pbik805@4ax.com>, (PeteCresswell) <x@y.Invalid> wrote: > >> and I am now about 99 44/100ths percent sure that my Note 4 > >> cannot do CDMA. > > > >which note 4? exact model#. > SM-N910C - not a USA-specifuc model yep, no cdma and its lte bands don't support what sprint uses. it does support lte bands used by the other three, particularly at&t.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 20:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <xhjv8y1te8z6.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #54893 |
(PeteCresswell) wrote: > Per VanguardLH: > >> Is your Note 4 and unlocked phone that can be used with any carrier, >> or is it a locked phone which means you can only use it with one >> carrier? > > Unlocked from Day 1 - I bought it that way from B&H Photo. > > The more I read about Tello, the more I think their service is CDMA (whatever > that means...) https://tello.com/help_center#q_572 Q: What GSM phones can I enroll into Tello? A: Since Tello runs on a CDMA network, you can enroll into Tello only those GSM phones that have CDMA capabilities. CDMA and 2G (GSM) networks are getting or have been decommissioned. Wonder how long Tello can survive. The reason Tello mentions Sprint-locked phones as typically acceptable is because Sprint is one of the last holdouts using CDMA. > and I am now about 99 44/100ths percent sure that my Note 4 > cannot do CDMA. https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4-6434.php Network: GSM/HSPA/LTE CDMA is not listed.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 21:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190820182131277869%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54907 |
In article <xhjv8y1te8z6.dlg@v.nguard.lh>, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: > CDMA and 2G (GSM) networks are getting or have been decommissioned. > Wonder how long Tello can survive. since they support lte, they can survive as long as lte does. > The reason Tello mentions > Sprint-locked phones as typically acceptable is because Sprint is one of > the last holdouts using CDMA. nope. it's because they're a sprint mvno.
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