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  AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-15 20:43 +0000
    Re: AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-15 16:55 -0500
    Re: AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-15 16:55 -0700
      Re: AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 04:16 -0400
        Re: AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 12:13 -0700
          Re: AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 13:12 -0700
        Re: AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 07:22 +0000

#155942 — AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

BACKGROUND:
 Having long ago (a few years) published a dozen or so cross-platform
 tutorials on how to write Android apps on Windows using Android Studio, 
 and how to test them on Windows (using emulators) and how to install 
 them on Android to test on Android (using developer options)... 

 Times have changed... 

 Even people who have never written an Android app on Windows can now
 do so, as evidenced by this AI written Usenet newsreader named NeReO.
    Subject: New Android NewsReader Open-source - *NeReO* 1.3.7
    From: MCSM <despammed@mcsm.anonaddy.me>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.newsreaders,news.software.readers,comp.mobile.android
    Message-ID: <mn.7aa87ea991fcb2e6.0@mcsm.org>
    Organization: mcsm.org
    X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-it

    On SourceForge:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/nereo/files/1.3.7/

Emboldened by the fact that the missing functionali8ty of a decent
newsreader was unabashedly created using AI, and having written a dozen
tutorials on how to (conventionally) write an Android program (with that
source code having been already posted previously in earlier c.m.a threads)

What would be a generally useful yet simple-enough functionality to write.
It shouldn't already exist (otherwise it would be a wasted investment).

What app functionality do you wish exists on Android but which doesn't yet?
Best if it is a cross-platform functionality between Windows & Android.
-- 
On Usenet, the best ideas often come from someone else's software needs.

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#155945

Maria Sophia wrote on 9/15/2026 3:43 PM:
> AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
>   Having long ago (a few years) published a dozen or so cross-platform
>   tutorials on how to write Android apps on Windows using Android Studio,
>   and how to test them on Windows (using emulators) and how to install
>   them on Android to test on Android (using developer options)...
> 
>   Times have changed...
> 
>   Even people who have never written an Android app on Windows can now
>   do so, as evidenced by this AI written Usenet newsreader named NeReO.
>      Subject: New Android NewsReader Open-source - *NeReO* 1.3.7
>      From: MCSM <despammed@mcsm.anonaddy.me>
>      Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.newsreaders,news.software.readers,comp.mobile.android
>      Message-ID: <mn.7aa87ea991fcb2e6.0@mcsm.org>
>      Organization: mcsm.org
>      X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-it
> 
>      On SourceForge:
>      https://sourceforge.net/projects/nereo/files/1.3.7/
> 
> Emboldened by the fact that the missing functionali8ty of a decent
> newsreader was unabashedly created using AI, and having written a dozen
> tutorials on how to (conventionally) write an Android program (with that
> source code having been already posted previously in earlier c.m.a threads)
> 
> What would be a generally useful yet simple-enough functionality to write.
> It shouldn't already exist (otherwise it would be a wasted investment).
> 
> What app functionality do you wish exists on Android but which doesn't yet?
> Best if it is a cross-platform functionality between Windows & Android.
> 

I don't have an android, but it would be nice if you wrote something 
that would make apple ipads and iphones work better with windows.

If you could do that, and make it simple enough for commoners to use, I 
think it would provide great value and establish you as a real 
contributor.  A hero actually.  Apple, so far, functions as a walled 
garden.  They try not to work with ANYTHING they didn't sell.  I'll 
NEVER buy another apple gadget, but their iphone and ipad is what I 
currently have.

I really don't think you can do it, but thought I'd mention things of 
great utility in case you're up for a challenge instead of your usual 
bullshit PSAs and flaky tutorials, not to mention your many flame wars 
which take up lots of your time.

You wouldn't have the time,motivation,or gumption to complete anything 
truly useful.

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#155947

On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).  When I get stuck,
I typically will ask ChatGPT.  So far the advice
I get back and the explanations are wonderful.

Just write something you need.  Then when you get stuck,
ask ChatGTP.

He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.

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#155951

On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
> On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.
> 
> I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).  When I get stuck,
> I typically will ask ChatGPT.  So far the advice
> I get back and the explanations are wonderful.
> 
> Just write something you need.  Then when you get stuck,
> ask ChatGTP.
> 
> He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
> I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.
> 

Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ?  :-)

It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
(reinforcement) in the training set.

*******

For extra comedy, ask your LLM-AI to write you a

    Raku lint checker

and then you would have a standalone tool to check
your Raku source. You could have it write that
in some other language if you want, remembering
that it "likes to write Python programs". I thought that
was comedy gold, when I asked it what language it
"liked" to write computer programs in, and it
waxed on and on about Python. The answer looked
like an advert. I was expecting an "I can do anything"
kind of answer, and I was shocked when it somehow
decided Python was the One Language.

The machine likes to do anything which is within the
training set. For example, don't ask it to write APL
programs, because at the time, there seemed to be nothing
substantive in the training set.

It has poor measuring qualities, and it has no idea
what is in the training set. It can only figure
that out, indirectly, via High Reasoning mode.
It can detect it is guessing, while High Reasoning.

When writing programs, it seems to write a series of comments first.
Then it fleshes out each comment and writes code. If it doesn't
have the wherewithall to write a particular subroutine, it can
leave that as a comment, like it was a lazy student or something.

    subroutine sqrt(x)
    {
       // Put square root code here
    }

This is one reason, you must skim-read any programs it gives
you, as it is too sneaky to admit "I whiffed on parts of my assignment".
It just quietly leaves divots in the turf like that.

   Paul

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#155958

On 9/16/26 1:16 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
>> On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.
>>
>> I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).  When I get stuck,
>> I typically will ask ChatGPT.  So far the advice
>> I get back and the explanations are wonderful.
>>
>> Just write something you need.  Then when you get stuck,
>> ask ChatGTP.
>>
>> He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
>> I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.
>>
> 
> Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ?  :-)
> 
> It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
> There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
> (reinforcement) in the training set.
> 
> *******
> 
> For extra comedy, ask your LLM-AI to write you a
> 
>      Raku lint checker
> 
> and then you would have a standalone tool to check
> your Raku source. You could have it write that
> in some other language if you want, remembering
> that it "likes to write Python programs". I thought that
> was comedy gold, when I asked it what language it
> "liked" to write computer programs in, and it
> waxed on and on about Python. The answer looked
> like an advert. I was expecting an "I can do anything"
> kind of answer, and I was shocked when it somehow
> decided Python was the One Language.
> 
> The machine likes to do anything which is within the
> training set. For example, don't ask it to write APL
> programs, because at the time, there seemed to be nothing
> substantive in the training set.
> 
> It has poor measuring qualities, and it has no idea
> what is in the training set. It can only figure
> that out, indirectly, via High Reasoning mode.
> It can detect it is guessing, while High Reasoning.
> 
> When writing programs, it seems to write a series of comments first.
> Then it fleshes out each comment and writes code. If it doesn't
> have the wherewithall to write a particular subroutine, it can
> leave that as a comment, like it was a lazy student or something.
> 
>      subroutine sqrt(x)
>      {
>         // Put square root code here
>      }
> 
> This is one reason, you must skim-read any programs it gives
> you, as it is too sneaky to admit "I whiffed on parts of my assignment".
> It just quietly leaves divots in the turf like that.
> 
>     Paul
> 

My work around it to create the structure first
with all the brackets in place, then fill the inners
in.

Where I get in trouble is with
     if 0 { say "no" } elsif False { say "NO" } else { say "yes" };

when there are if statement inside the elsif's.

Raku has no "case" statement, like bash.

And the syntax checkers tell me here is something wrong
with the last line of the program instead of where I forgot
a closing "}".  Raku says they are working on it,

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#155961

On 9/16/26 12:13 PM, T wrote:
> On 9/16/26 1:16 AM, Paul wrote:
>> On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
>>> On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>> AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.
>>>
>>> I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).  When I get stuck,
>>> I typically will ask ChatGPT.  So far the advice
>>> I get back and the explanations are wonderful.
>>>
>>> Just write something you need.  Then when you get stuck,
>>> ask ChatGTP.
>>>
>>> He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
>>> I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.
>>>
>>
>> Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ?  :-)
>>
>> It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
>> There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
>> (reinforcement) in the training set.
>>
>> *******
>>
>> For extra comedy, ask your LLM-AI to write you a
>>
>>      Raku lint checker
>>
>> and then you would have a standalone tool to check
>> your Raku source. You could have it write that
>> in some other language if you want, remembering
>> that it "likes to write Python programs". I thought that
>> was comedy gold, when I asked it what language it
>> "liked" to write computer programs in, and it
>> waxed on and on about Python. The answer looked
>> like an advert. I was expecting an "I can do anything"
>> kind of answer, and I was shocked when it somehow
>> decided Python was the One Language.
>>
>> The machine likes to do anything which is within the
>> training set. For example, don't ask it to write APL
>> programs, because at the time, there seemed to be nothing
>> substantive in the training set.
>>
>> It has poor measuring qualities, and it has no idea
>> what is in the training set. It can only figure
>> that out, indirectly, via High Reasoning mode.
>> It can detect it is guessing, while High Reasoning.
>>
>> When writing programs, it seems to write a series of comments first.
>> Then it fleshes out each comment and writes code. If it doesn't
>> have the wherewithall to write a particular subroutine, it can
>> leave that as a comment, like it was a lazy student or something.
>>
>>      subroutine sqrt(x)
>>      {
>>         // Put square root code here
>>      }
>>
>> This is one reason, you must skim-read any programs it gives
>> you, as it is too sneaky to admit "I whiffed on parts of my assignment".
>> It just quietly leaves divots in the turf like that.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
> 
> My work around it to create the structure first
> with all the brackets in place, then fill the inners
> in.
> 
> Where I get in trouble is with
>      if 0 { say "no" } elsif False { say "NO" } else { say "yes" };
> 
> when there are if statement inside the elsif's.
> 
> Raku has no "case" statement, like bash.
> 
> And the syntax checkers tell me here is something wrong
> with the last line of the program instead of where I forgot
> a closing "}".  Raku says they are working on it,
It is also my clue it is time to start putting results
of if and elsif into separate subroutine where the sub
can "if" to death and I can not get lost.

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#155966

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
>> On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.
>> 
>> I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).  When I get stuck,
>> I typically will ask ChatGPT.  So far the advice
>> I get back and the explanations are wonderful.
>> 
>> Just write something you need.  Then when you get stuck,
>> ask ChatGTP.
>> 
>> He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
>> I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.
>> 
> 
> Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ?  :-)
> 
> It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
> There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
> (reinforcement) in the training set.

perl is not a closed language and in many circumstances brackets and
parentheses are optional. That's what made perl one-liners so powerful.
This was in perl 5 days and I know perl6 is a different beast so maybe
it'll work better. 

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