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  The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-24 20:53 +0200
    Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:54 +0200
      Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-08-25 10:46 +1200
        Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 01:57 +0200
          Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-08-25 12:46 +1200
            Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-25 03:21 +0200
              Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 09:23 -0700
                Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-25 22:19 +0530
                  Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 20:13 -0700
          Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-25 03:05 +0200
      Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2026-08-26 23:49 +0000
        Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +1200
    Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 12:35 +0800
    Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-27 06:21 +0200
    Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-27 06:22 +0200
    Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-27 06:25 +0200
    Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-27 06:27 +0200
      Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-26 23:12 -0700
      Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 08:54 +0200
        Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-27 12:26 +0200
          Re: The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 13:21 +0200

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#155262 — The cell phone is now considered a criminal tool by LE

The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE

I skim the news every day where today I saw that a billionaire owner of the
SF 49'ers is arrested for "engaging in prostitution", which seems odd.
 <https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/24/sport/san-francisco-49ers-owner-arrested>

Digging into it, I find out he was arrested for "soliciting" a prostitute.
That's not so odd. Actually, he solicited a sting LE agent with his phone.

He forfeited $160, presumably cash which was a present for the lady.
That's not so odd either (other than now we know how much it costs).

His lawyers apparently bargained LE down to "disorderly conduct".
 <https://www.footballscoop.com/2026/08/24/49ers-owner-jed-york-arrested-at-mobile-home-park-in-ohio>

However his no-contest plea included an odd "possession of criminal tools".
Huh?

Q: What criminal tool do you need to be convicted of "disorderly conduct"?
A: Turns out, the "criminal tool" is his cell phone.

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#155264

On 2026-08-24 20:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE

What is LE?

> 
> I skim the news every day where today I saw that a billionaire owner of the
> SF 49'ers is arrested for "engaging in prostitution", which seems odd.
>   <https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/24/sport/san-francisco-49ers-owner-arrested>
> 
> Digging into it, I find out he was arrested for "soliciting" a prostitute.
> That's not so odd. Actually, he solicited a sting LE agent with his phone.
> 
> He forfeited $160, presumably cash which was a present for the lady.
> That's not so odd either (other than now we know how much it costs).
> 
> His lawyers apparently bargained LE down to "disorderly conduct".
>   <https://www.footballscoop.com/2026/08/24/49ers-owner-jed-york-arrested-at-mobile-home-park-in-ohio>
> 
> However his no-contest plea included an odd "possession of criminal tools".
> Huh?
> 
> Q: What criminal tool do you need to be convicted of "disorderly conduct"?
> A: Turns out, the "criminal tool" is his cell phone.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155275

On 2026-08-24 19:54:42 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:
> On 2026-08-24 20:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE
> 
> What is LE?

Law Enforcement




>> I skim the news every day where today I saw that a billionaire owner of the
>> SF 49'ers is arrested for "engaging in prostitution", which seems odd.
>> <https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/24/sport/san-francisco-49ers-owner-arrested>
>> 
>> Digging into it, I find out he was arrested for "soliciting" a prostitute.
>> That's not so odd. Actually, he solicited a sting LE agent with his phone.
>> 
>> He forfeited $160, presumably cash which was a present for the lady.
>> That's not so odd either (other than now we know how much it costs).
>> 
>> His lawyers apparently bargained LE down to "disorderly conduct".
>> <https://www.footballscoop.com/2026/08/24/49ers-owner-jed-york-arrested-at-mobile-home-park-in-ohio> 
>> 
>> 
>> However his no-contest plea included an odd "possession of criminal tools".
>> Huh?
>> 
>> Q: What criminal tool do you need to be convicted of "disorderly conduct"?
>> A: Turns out, the "criminal tool" is his cell phone.

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#155282

On 2026-08-25 00:46, Your Name wrote:
> On 2026-08-24 19:54:42 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:
>> On 2026-08-24 20:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE
>>
>> What is LE?
> 
> Law Enforcement

Ahhh. And which country are we talking about this time? ;-)

We keep forgetting people here are from many countries.


>>> I skim the news every day where today I saw that a billionaire
>>> owner of the SF 49'ers is arrested for "engaging in
>>> prostitution", which seems odd. <https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/24/
>>> sport/san-francisco-49ers-owner- arrested>
>>> 
>>> Digging into it, I find out he was arrested for "soliciting" a 
>>> prostitute. That's not so odd. Actually, he solicited a sting LE
>>> agent with his phone.
>>>
>>> He forfeited $160, presumably cash which was a present for the lady.
>>> That's not so odd either (other than now we know how much it costs).
>>>
>>> His lawyers apparently bargained LE down to "disorderly conduct".
>>> <https://www.footballscoop.com/2026/08/24/49ers-owner-jed-york- 
>>> arrested-at-mobile-home-park-in-ohio>
>>>
>>> However his no-contest plea included an odd "possession of criminal 
>>> tools".
>>> Huh?
>>>
>>> Q: What criminal tool do you need to be convicted of "disorderly 
>>> conduct"?
>>> A: Turns out, the "criminal tool" is his cell phone.
> 
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155284

On 2026-08-24 23:57:11 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:
> On 2026-08-25 00:46, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2026-08-24 19:54:42 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:
>>> On 2026-08-24 20:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE
>>> 
>>> What is LE?
>> 
>> Law Enforcement
> 
> Ahhh. And which country are we talking about this time? ;-)
> 
> We keep forgetting people here are from many countries.

No idea, but if it doesn't say you can probably guess it is USA ... as 
we all know, there are no other countries on the planet.



>>>> I skim the news every day where today I saw that a billionaire
>>>> owner of the SF 49'ers is arrested for "engaging in
>>>> prostitution", which seems odd. <https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/24/
>>>> sport/san-francisco-49ers-owner- arrested>
>>>> 
>>>> Digging into it, I find out he was arrested for "soliciting" a 
>>>> prostitute. That's not so odd. Actually, he solicited a sting LE
>>>> agent with his phone.
>>>> 
>>>> He forfeited $160, presumably cash which was a present for the lady.
>>>> That's not so odd either (other than now we know how much it costs).
>>>> 
>>>> His lawyers apparently bargained LE down to "disorderly conduct".
>>>> <https://www.footballscoop.com/2026/08/24/49ers-owner-jed-york- 
>>>> arrested-at-mobile-home-park-in-ohio>
>>>> 
>>>> However his no-contest plea included an odd "possession of criminal tools".
>>>> Huh?
>>>> 
>>>> Q: What criminal tool do you need to be convicted of "disorderly conduct"?
>>>> A: Turns out, the "criminal tool" is his cell phone.

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#155287

Your Name wrote:
>> We keep forgetting people here are from many countries.
> 
> No idea, but if it doesn't say you can probably guess it is USA ... as 
> we all know, there are no other countries on the planet.

Well, to be fair to me, if someone clicks on the links, they'd know that.
 <https://www.reuters.com/sports/reports-49ers-owner-jed-york-arrested-ohio-over-weekend--flm-2026-08-24/>

But to always add value, bear in mind the oddity we're discussing here is
the cell phone is a "criminal tool" when used for "disorderly conduct"...

Apparently, the relevant provision is Ohio Revised Code S 2923.24,
"Possessing criminal tools", where the operative language is:
   "No person shall possess or have under the person's control 
    any substance, device, instrument, or article, with purpose 
    to use it criminally.

Apparently, in Ohio at least, a phone can become a 'criminal tool' when the
defendant possesses it with the purpose of using it to commit a crime.

While this billionaire was initially charged with "engaging in
prostitution", he got off lightly with "disorderly conduct", whereas this
guy fared worse, apparently doing the exact same thing... 

     In State v. Newberry, 2025-Ohio-586, the defendant arranged 
     a sexual encounter with an undercover officer and was charged
     with both engaging in prostitution and possessing criminal tools.

The defendant said it wasn't a criminal tool. He said it was a phone.
The case made it all the way to the Ohio Supreme Court, it seems.
 <https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/7/2025/2025-Ohio-586.pdf>

Before that, this guy said a phone can't be a criminal tool & he lost too.
 State v. Williams, 2018-Ohio-4612
 <https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/PDF/8/2018/2018-Ohio-4612.pdf>

And if we consider this guy was gonna give the lady a $160 gift, this guy
upped the ante by offering the LE lady a whopping $180 to buy that GFE.
   "In State v. Keirns, 2024-Ohio-3177, the defendant communicated
    with someone he believed to be offering prostitution services, 
    arranged a meeting in East Palestine, and agreed to pay $180."

    "He was charged with engaging in prostitution and possessing 
     criminal tools. The prostitution count was eventually dismissed,   
     but the criminal-tools charge went forward in connection with 
     other offenses."
     <https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/7/2024/2024-Ohio-3177.pdf>

That's the exact same town as where our billionaire SF 49'ers owner got it!
Tough town!

Just goes to show that you lose privacy whenever you pay for something.

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#155310

On 8/24/26 18:21, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>>> We keep forgetting people here are from many countries.
>> 
>> No idea, but if it doesn't say you can probably guess it is USA ... as 
>> we all know, there are no other countries on the planet.
> 
> Well, to be fair to me, if someone clicks on the links, they'd know that.
>   <https://www.reuters.com/sports/reports-49ers-owner-jed-york-arrested-ohio-over-weekend--flm-2026-08-24/>
> 
> But to always add value, bear in mind the oddity we're discussing here is
> the cell phone is a "criminal tool" when used for "disorderly conduct"...
> 
> Apparently, the relevant provision is Ohio Revised Code S 2923.24,
> "Possessing criminal tools", where the operative language is:
>     "No person shall possess or have under the person's control
>      any substance, device, instrument, or article, with purpose
>      to use it criminally.
> 
> Apparently, in Ohio at least, a phone can become a 'criminal tool' when the
> defendant possesses it with the purpose of using it to commit a crime.

Where did you read that the 'criminal tool' was a phone?  I wondered 
about that and looked at several sources for the story but found 
nothing.  I have heard the word 'tool' used for male genitalia, but I 
don't think it's ever used as a plural in this context.

Another story lacking in essential information:  How did those guys, one 
of whom died, get stuck in the mud in Death Valley in August?  Nobody 
mentioned flash floods, so that probably wasn't the problem.
> While this billionaire was initially charged with "engaging in
> prostitution", he got off lightly with "disorderly conduct", whereas this
> guy fared worse, apparently doing the exact same thing...
> 
>       In State v. Newberry, 2025-Ohio-586, the defendant arranged
>       a sexual encounter with an undercover officer and was charged
>       with both engaging in prostitution and possessing criminal tools.
> 
> The defendant said it wasn't a criminal tool. He said it was a phone.
> The case made it all the way to the Ohio Supreme Court, it seems.
>   <https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/7/2025/2025-Ohio-586.pdf>
> 
> Before that, this guy said a phone can't be a criminal tool & he lost too.
>   State v. Williams, 2018-Ohio-4612
>   <https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/PDF/8/2018/2018-Ohio-4612.pdf>
> 
> And if we consider this guy was gonna give the lady a $160 gift, this guy
> upped the ante by offering the LE lady a whopping $180 to buy that GFE.
>     "In State v. Keirns, 2024-Ohio-3177, the defendant communicated
>      with someone he believed to be offering prostitution services,
>      arranged a meeting in East Palestine, and agreed to pay $180."
> 
>      "He was charged with engaging in prostitution and possessing
>       criminal tools. The prostitution count was eventually dismissed,
>       but the criminal-tools charge went forward in connection with
>       other offenses."
>       <https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/7/2024/2024-Ohio-3177.pdf>
> 
> That's the exact same town as where our billionaire SF 49'ers owner got it!
> Tough town!
> 
> Just goes to show that you lose privacy whenever you pay for something.

I didn't know they were still arresting johns anywhere.  Or is it only 
politicians that LE dislikes?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "Incontinence hotline, can you hold?"

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#155311

The Real Bev wrote:
>> Apparently, in Ohio at least, a phone can become a 'criminal tool' when the
>> defendant possesses it with the purpose of using it to commit a crime.
> 
> Where did you read that the 'criminal tool' was a phone?  I wondered 
> about that and looked at several sources for the story but found 
> nothing.  I have heard the word 'tool' used for male genitalia, but I 
> don't think it's ever used as a plural in this context.

In another post in this thread, I discussed the court cases where there's
no doubt from the court cases that a phone is no longer 'just a phone'. :)

> Another story lacking in essential information:  How did those guys, one 
> of whom died, get stuck in the mud in Death Valley in August?  Nobody 
> mentioned flash floods, so that probably wasn't the problem.

I agree with you that the news leaves out what needs to be stated.
I was wondering about that mud also when I read it in the news today.
 <https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/news/2026-08-21.htm>

 Two French men and no cell service and no other vehicles
 Stuck in mud was due, apparently, to a low-lying salt-flat depression
 68-year-old Pierre Michel Formosa died after only 1.3 miles on foot
 Ambient temperatures that day reached 116°F (47°C)
 The partner reported it at 2pm 

 <https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-08-23/french-visitor-dies-vehicle-breaks-down-116-degrees-death-valley>

The park suggested they should have stayed with the vehicle.
Shade. Visibility. 
 
There's a picture of a similar incident here.
 <https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/news/off-road-7-4-23.htm>

>> Just goes to show that you lose privacy whenever you pay for something.
> 
> I didn't know they were still arresting johns anywhere.  Or is it only 
> politicians that LE dislikes?

In the USA, only in some counties in Nevada is the world's oldest
profession legal. Everywhere else, it's called making porn movies.

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#155326

On 8/25/26 09:49, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Bev wrote:
>> Another story lacking in essential information:  How did those guys, one 
>> of whom died, get stuck in the mud in Death Valley in August?  Nobody 
>> mentioned flash floods, so that probably wasn't the problem.
> 
> I agree with you that the news leaves out what needs to be stated.
> I was wondering about that mud also when I read it in the news today.
>   <https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/news/2026-08-21.htm>

News ain't what it used to be.  Curiously enough, the London Daily Mail 
frequently has much better coverage and photos of local US events.  I 
conclude that they pay independent journalists a lot more than anybody 
else. This wasn't that noteworthy an event, though.
>   Two French men and no cell service and no other vehicles
>   Stuck in mud was due, apparently, to a low-lying salt-flat depression
>   68-year-old Pierre Michel Formosa died after only 1.3 miles on foot
>   Ambient temperatures that day reached 116°F (47°C)
>   The partner reported it at 2pm
> 
>   <https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-08-23/french-visitor-dies-vehicle-breaks-down-116-degrees-death-valley>
> 
> The park suggested they should have stayed with the vehicle.
> Shade. Visibility.
No mention of water or food.  Unless DV does regular helicopter patrols 
I don't see how they could have been found except by pure luck.  They 
could have started a fire...

Even on the main road coming in from the west there's no cell service. 
Friends hit a [speed]bump that flattened both tires and had to wait for 
someone to come along and carry the message to Stovepipe Wells or 
equivalent.  I love Death Valley, but it's better on a dirtbike in the 
winter.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   Of course SoCal has four seasons:
   Earthquake, Mudslide, Brushfire, and Riot

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#155286

Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE
>>>
>>> What is LE?
>> 
>> Law Enforcement
> 
> Ahhh. And which country are we talking about this time? ;-)
> 
> We keep forgetting people here are from many countries.

I apologize. 

I hadn't even thought whether or not it's not a common term throughout the
world as I've seen it used many times, so I didn't think of that issue.

My bad. 
As I am wont to do, I belatedly looked up use of the LE abbreviation... 

Taking the cake for the most times used, Europol uses "Law Enforcement" 211
times in this 76 page document (an average of almost 3 times per page!) but
only defining "LE" in the list of abbreviations on page 6 of this document
(and only using it as an abbreviation the first time it's used, on page 7).
 <https://www.europol.europa.eu/iocta/2015/resources/iocta-2015.pdf>

While the interesting parts were the billionaire was original charged with
"engaging in prostitution" and then it was bargained down to "disorderly
conduct with use of criminal tools", the criminal tool being the phone... 

I apologize for using an acronym that isn't, apparently, commonly used
outside the USA perhaps, but here it's defined as used by the USA DHS
 <https://www.dhs.gov/terms>

The NIST computer security resource center defines LE for what it means
 <https://csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/law_enforcement>

Apparently the UK used the full words 27 times before defining the LE
abbreviation on pages 17 & 57 of this her majesties' custom's directorate.
 <https://assets-hmicfrs.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/uploads/hmrc-customised-for-control-20080617.pdf>

As does the Australian Parliament, apparently, for official abbreviations:
 <https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/woc/wocjanjun13/a02>

It's defined by the UN in this International Peacekeeping Policing policy.
 <https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL32321.html>

And it's used here in a medical paper out of the state of Oregon.
 <https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10842836/>

Looking it up for the world, while "Law Enforcement" is a bona fide noun... 
 <https://www.oed.com/dictionary/law-enforcement_n>
The "LE" part is often used as the precursor to other letters, e.g., LEO
 <https://escholarship.org/uc/item/31w2k9mh>
e.g., I thought it was a common abbreviation, but the FBI only has LEEP.
 <https://le.fbi.gov/cjis-division/cjis-security-policy-resource-center/appendicies>

The word "Law Enforcement" was used 17 times in this Canadian paper, so
Lord knows, they too could have used the abbreviation to save typing...
 <https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/lbrr/archives/cn21708-eng.pdf>

In summary, while I found use of LE as an abbreviation abounds, it seems
that most of the time, most of the references above, simply spelled it out.

Mea culpa.

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#155332

>> 
>> However his no-contest plea included an odd "possession of criminal tools".
>> Huh?

Maybe his penis????

-- 
A host is a host from coast to coast...............wb8foz@panix.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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#155334

On 2026-08-26 23:49:01 +0000, David Lesher said:
>>> 
>>> However his no-contest plea included an odd "possession of criminal tools".
>>> Huh?
> 
> Maybe his penis????

For most criminals, their "criminal tool" is their brain ... almost 
always the fact that they do not have one.  :-p

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#155290

On 8/25/2026 2:53 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE

I didn't read the text you quoted, but the problem
is NOT the cell-phone, nor the idea of a mobile
telephone. It's the hardware and software that
manages the signals transmitted and received
by the FM transmitters in the cell-phone. It's
just a plain, simple, old, classic, ancient
men-in-the-middle problem.

Two Generals' Problem - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Generals%27_Problem>

Man-in-the-middle attack - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack>

-- 

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   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
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#155335

On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 20:53:16 +0200, Maria Sophia
<mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

>The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE

Who is spam assassin and why doesn't it like my question?

-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#155336

On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 20:53:16 +0200, Maria Sophia
<mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

>The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE

Who or what is ell eee?


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#155337

On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 20:53:16 +0200, Maria Sophia
<mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

>The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE


Who or what is LE?


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#155338

On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 20:53:16 +0200, Maria Sophia
<mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

>The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE

Who or what is spam assassin and why won't it let me ask a question
about an incomprehensible abbreviation?


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#155340

On 8/26/26 21:27, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 20:53:16 +0200, Maria Sophia
> <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> 
>>The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE
> 
> Who or what is spam assassin and why won't it let me ask a question
> about an incomprehensible abbreviation?

Impatient, aren't you?  Law Enforcement.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   Organized people will never know the sheer joyous ecstasy of finding
   something that was believed to have been irretrievably lost.
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#155342

On 2026-08-27 06:27, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 20:53:16 +0200, Maria Sophia
> <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> 
>> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE
> 
> Who or what is spam assassin and why won't it let me ask a question
> about an incomprehensible abbreviation?

Ask your Usenet provider.

I asked what is that abbreviation three days ago, and the answer is 
there, too.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155348

On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 08:54:41 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2026-08-27 06:27, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 20:53:16 +0200, Maria Sophia
>> <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The cell phone is apparently now considered a criminal tool by LE
>> 
>> Who or what is spam assassin and why won't it let me ask a question
>> about an incomprehensible abbreviation?
>
>Ask your Usenet provider.
>
>I asked what is that abbreviation three days ago, and the answer is 
>there, too.

I see now. You asked "What?" and " asked "Who?" and was told that Spam
Assassin had rejected it. 

It seemed to find "Who or what" acceptable. 


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