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  I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-22 22:47 +0200
    Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-23 05:28 +0200
      Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-23 10:59 +0200
      Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:49 +0200
    Re: I got my first advert message via RCS VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-08-23 05:07 -0500
      Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:51 +0200
        Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-23 18:18 +0200
    Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-23 19:12 +0200
      Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 22:20 +0200
        Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-24 07:51 +0200
          Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 09:56 +0200
          Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 12:17 +0100
            Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-24 16:57 +0200
              Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:38 +0200
              Re: I got my first advert message via RCS David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2026-08-24 20:37 +0100
                Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:30 +0200
                  Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-08-24 20:46 +0000
                    Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:57 +0200
                      Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-08-24 21:14 +0000
        Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:13 +0200
          Re: I got my first advert message via RCS VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-08-24 12:54 -0500
            Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:50 +0200
              Re: I got my first advert message via RCS VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-08-24 17:54 -0500
          Re: I got my first advert message via RCS Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:11 +0100
            Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-24 20:39 +0200
              Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:51 +0200
              Re: I got my first advert message via RCS VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-08-24 18:01 -0500
                Re: I got my first advert message via RCS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 01:53 +0200

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#155204 — I got my first advert message via RCS

My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".

Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155209

On 22.08.26 22:47, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
> 
> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.

Surprise, surprise! Typical for Google "solutions". They forced that
RCS-crap into the market.

Threaten to sue your ISP for unsolicited advertising.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#155211

On 23.08.26 05:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 22.08.26 22:47, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>
>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
> 
> Surprise, surprise! Typical for Google "solutions". They forced that
> RCS-crap into the market.
> 
> Threaten to sue your ISP for unsolicited advertising.

The Swiss operators still do not offer RCS and as you prove there are
good reasons not to do so.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita."

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#155213

On 2026-08-23 05:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 22.08.26 22:47, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>
>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
> 
> Surprise, surprise! Typical for Google "solutions". They forced that
> RCS-crap into the market.
> 
> Threaten to sue your ISP for unsolicited advertising.
> 

Good luck with that.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155212

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
> 
> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.

https://rcsforbusiness.google/

Looks oriented to advertising, not to include customer support.

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#155214

On 2026-08-23 12:07, VanguardLH wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>
>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
> 
> https://rcsforbusiness.google/
> 
> Looks oriented to advertising, not to include customer support.

Yes, looks like that one.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155221

On 23.08.26 14:51, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-23 12:07, VanguardLH wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>>
>>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
>>
>> https://rcsforbusiness.google/
>>
>> Looks oriented to advertising, not to include customer support.
> 
> Yes, looks like that one.

Typical anglo-saxon advertising bullshit. Indigestible.
Google is evil.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita."

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#155225

On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 22:47:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
> 
> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.

I would expect there is some way to unsubscribe?

-- 
s|b

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#155233

On 2026-08-23 19:12, s|b wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 22:47:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>
>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
> 
> I would expect there is some way to unsubscribe?
> 

First, I do not want to.

I possibly accepted or even signed a paper accepting them, and finding 
the address to unsubscribe is not easy. You can register in the Robinson 
List, which might work, or may not, if they understand that you signed 
for them.

There are other SMS streams that are a nuisance. I just mark them as 
Spam and way they go.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155236

On 23.08.26 22:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-23 19:12, s|b wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 22:47:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>>
>>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
>>
>> I would expect there is some way to unsubscribe?
>>
> 
> First, I do not want to.

Then why are you making so much noise about this?


-- 
"Ave! Morituri te salutant!"

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#155237

On 2026-08-24 07:51, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 23.08.26 22:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-23 19:12, s|b wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 22:47:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
>>>
>>> I would expect there is some way to unsubscribe?
>>>
>>
>> First, I do not want to.
> 
> Then why are you making so much noise about this?

You misunderstand.

I'm not complaining. I am happy.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155241

On 2026-08-24, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> On 23.08.26 22:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-23 19:12, s|b wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 22:47:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> My ISP originated it. They used something called "RCS for business".
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, answering is not blocked, but I will not try.
>>>
>>> I would expect there is some way to unsubscribe?
>>>
>>
>> First, I do not want to.
>
> Then why are you making so much noise about this?

Other people could also benefit from knowing this crap is happening...

(I think I have RCS disabled?)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#155243

Nuno Silva wrote:
> (I think I have RCS disabled?)

I get it that RCS allows "good things" when dealing with charges for MMS,
but for those of us who use WhatsApp for MMS (particularly for videos), 
what is the perceived advantage of RCS, given it's a Google monopoly?

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#155263

On 2026-08-24 16:57, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> (I think I have RCS disabled?)
> 
> I get it that RCS allows "good things" when dealing with charges for MMS,
> but for those of us who use WhatsApp for MMS (particularly for videos),
> what is the perceived advantage of RCS, given it's a Google monopoly?

Universal.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155267

In message <116hm58$2k4d$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
          Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
> > (I think I have RCS disabled?)
> 
> I get it that RCS allows "good things" when dealing with charges for MMS,
> but for those of us who use WhatsApp for MMS (particularly for videos), 
> what is the perceived advantage of RCS, given it's a Google monopoly?

I'm tempted to ignore any possible advantages, since they appear to be
unlikely to accrue to me.  My view is that I don't care, since it's
compatible with SMS in that a message sent to a recipient who can't
receive RCS is always going to get the message anyway.  Or, at least,
that's my understanding.

David

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#155268

On 2026-08-24 21:37, David Higton wrote:
> In message <116hm58$2k4d$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
>            Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> 
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> (I think I have RCS disabled?)
>>
>> I get it that RCS allows "good things" when dealing with charges for MMS,
>> but for those of us who use WhatsApp for MMS (particularly for videos),
>> what is the perceived advantage of RCS, given it's a Google monopoly?
> 
> I'm tempted to ignore any possible advantages, since they appear to be
> unlikely to accrue to me.  My view is that I don't care, since it's
> compatible with SMS in that a message sent to a recipient who can't
> receive RCS is always going to get the message anyway.  Or, at least,
> that's my understanding.
> 
> David

The most important advantage is that they are gratis, contrary to the 
equivalent that is MMS (not SMS).

That's a consideration in Europe, not in North America.

I see no reason to disable them.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155269

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-24 21:37, David Higton wrote:
> > In message <116hm58$2k4d$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
> >            Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Nuno Silva wrote:
> > > > (I think I have RCS disabled?)
> > > 
> > > I get it that RCS allows "good things" when dealing with charges for MMS,
> > > but for those of us who use WhatsApp for MMS (particularly for videos),
> > > what is the perceived advantage of RCS, given it's a Google monopoly?
> > 
> > I'm tempted to ignore any possible advantages, since they appear to be
> > unlikely to accrue to me.  My view is that I don't care, since it's
> > compatible with SMS in that a message sent to a recipient who can't
> > receive RCS is always going to get the message anyway.  Or, at least,
> > that's my understanding.
> > 
> > David
> 
> The most important advantage is that they are gratis, contrary to the
> equivalent that is MMS (not SMS).
> 
> That's a consideration in Europe, not in North America.
> 
> I see no reason to disable them.

And you can easily encrypt the messages, If you like to do so,
with your communication partners.

-- 
https://oc2mx.net

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#155270

On 2026-08-24 22:46, Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-24 21:37, David Higton wrote:
>>> In message <116hm58$2k4d$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
>>>             Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>> (I think I have RCS disabled?)
>>>>
>>>> I get it that RCS allows "good things" when dealing with charges for MMS,
>>>> but for those of us who use WhatsApp for MMS (particularly for videos),
>>>> what is the perceived advantage of RCS, given it's a Google monopoly?
>>>
>>> I'm tempted to ignore any possible advantages, since they appear to be
>>> unlikely to accrue to me.  My view is that I don't care, since it's
>>> compatible with SMS in that a message sent to a recipient who can't
>>> receive RCS is always going to get the message anyway.  Or, at least,
>>> that's my understanding.
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> The most important advantage is that they are gratis, contrary to the
>> equivalent that is MMS (not SMS).
>>
>> That's a consideration in Europe, not in North America.
>>
>> I see no reason to disable them.
> 
> And you can easily encrypt the messages, If you like to do so,
> with your communication partners.
> 

Ah, yes. Even if some suspect the quality of the encryption, it stops 
many attackers from succeeding to read your messages.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155273

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-24 22:46, Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
> > Carlos E.R. wrote:
> > > On 2026-08-24 21:37, David Higton wrote:
> > > > In message <116hm58$2k4d$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
> > > >             Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Nuno Silva wrote:
> > > > > > (I think I have RCS disabled?)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I get it that RCS allows "good things" when dealing with charges for MMS,
> > > > > but for those of us who use WhatsApp for MMS (particularly for videos),
> > > > > what is the perceived advantage of RCS, given it's a Google monopoly?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm tempted to ignore any possible advantages, since they appear to be
> > > > unlikely to accrue to me.  My view is that I don't care, since it's
> > > > compatible with SMS in that a message sent to a recipient who can't
> > > > receive RCS is always going to get the message anyway.  Or, at least,
> > > > that's my understanding.
> > > > 
> > > > David
> > > 
> > > The most important advantage is that they are gratis, contrary to the
> > > equivalent that is MMS (not SMS).
> > > 
> > > That's a consideration in Europe, not in North America.
> > > 
> > > I see no reason to disable them.
> > 
> > And you can easily encrypt the messages, If you like to do so,
> > with your communication partners.
> > 
> 
> Ah, yes. Even if some suspect the quality of the encryption, it stops
> many attackers from succeeding to read your messages.
> 

Well, ChaCha20 from DJB should do the trick. ;-)

https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/redphone

I am working on a new Version and will test it on Android (PlugMate)
as well, but this can take a little while.

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https://oc2mx.net

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#155253

On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 22:20:05 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2026-08-23 19:12, s|b wrote:
>
> > I would expect there is some way to unsubscribe?

> First, I do not want to.

You like spam? (-:
 
> I possibly accepted or even signed a paper accepting them, and finding 
> the address to unsubscribe is not easy. You can register in the Robinson 
> List, which might work, or may not, if they understand that you signed 
> for them.

I think it is EU law that a link to unsubscribe must be provided and
unsubscribing must be made easy. 

-- 
s|b

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