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  Mobile USENET readers Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> - 2026-08-22 13:41 +0100
    Re: Mobile USENET readers Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-22 15:28 +0200
    Re: Mobile USENET readers Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 17:11 +0100
      Re: Mobile USENET readers Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-22 18:20 +0100
      Re: Mobile USENET readers Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-22 09:26 -0800
        Re: Mobile USENET readers Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:48 +0100
          Re: Mobile USENET readers Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-23 07:12 -0800
            Re: Mobile USENET readers Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 18:51 +0100
              Re: Mobile USENET readers Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-08-23 20:13 +0100
                Re: Mobile USENET readers Truth in Writing <OnlyTruthMatters@is.invalid> - 2026-08-23 21:14 +0000
                Re: Mobile USENET readers David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-08-23 23:46 +0100
      Re: Mobile USENET readers Ivan Zelenyi <iz264279@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 18:21 +0500
    Re: Mobile USENET readers Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-22 21:30 +0100
    Re: Mobile USENET readers Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> - 2026-08-23 12:58 +0300
      Re: Mobile USENET readers Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 19:12 +0100
      Re: Mobile USENET readers Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> - 2026-08-23 20:13 +0100

#155187 — Mobile USENET readers

Are there any good new readers for androids?

-- 
Jim the Geordie

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#155188

On 22.08.26 14:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> 
> Are there any good new readers for androids?

Good ones? No.

-- 
"Ave! Morituri te salutant!"

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#155192

On 22/08/2026 13:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> 
> Are there any good new readers for androids?

Piaohong is just about acceptable for /reading/. Posting is another 
matter. It doesn't appear to be available at the Playstore any more.

There are some Italian enthusiasts who have rewritten Piaohong to some 
extent. The latest one is still working on it. If you want to see how 
it's going, it's probably best to subscribe to it.tlc.cellulari.android 
and use DeepL or Google to translate the text.

These mods of Piaohong are only available as *.apk files to download and 
install.
See 
<https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE>

-- 
Jeff

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#155193

Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:

> On 22/08/2026 13:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>> 
>> Are there any good new readers for androids?
> 
> Piaohong is just about acceptable for /reading/. Posting is another 
> matter. It doesn't appear to be available at the Playstore any more.
> 
> There are some Italian enthusiasts who have rewritten Piaohong to some 
> extent. The latest one is still working on it. If you want to see how 
> it's going, it's probably best to subscribe to it.tlc.cellulari.android 
> and use DeepL or Google to translate the text.
> 
> These mods of Piaohong are only available as *.apk files to download and 
> install.
> See 
> <https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE

mod.PiaoHong, which I use, hasn't been updated since it was
 created in 2024. It was made by decompiling the APK and modifying
 it. Posting works OK.

I'll repost here part of a recent subthread in the 'SD card vs.
 Esim?' thread:

AJL <noemail@none.com> Wrote in message:

> On 8/21/26 11:44 PM, Dave Royal wrote:
>>On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 22:25:07 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:
>>> Dave Royal wrote:
>>>>AJL wrote:
>  
>>>>> My favorite Android newsreader was Groundhog. I still used it for
>>>>> reading Usenet until just a few days ago When Amazon updated my Fire
>>>>> tablet and completely broke it.
> 
>>>> Try Alfio's 2.02_M17_OC from here:
>>>> <https://mega.nz/folder/7yhzFSYA#dGGTmFcuO_ags9lZRrFoqA>
>>>> Filters are inadequate but it's quite usable.
> 
>>> Unfortunately none of my current Android gear will load the apks. It's
>>>  apparently a security issue...
> 
>>It's an old app, minimally modified a few years ago. I run it on Android 
>>13 and I know folk who run it on recent devices.
> 
>>it says it won't install; you tap 'More info' and 'install anyway'
>>before running it you have to give it permissions manually to access the 
>>filestore - files? photos?
> 
> Both my current Android tablets do the same. The popups first say install
>  anyway? Then a refusal. Then an override line is offered and tapping that
>  with your apk I got another popup that says not installed.  
> 
>>There's also a new app being tested in it.tlc.cellulari.android. I leave 
>>you to investigate that. 

So it's clearly difficult to install.

The newsreader currently being tested in the Italian newsgroup is
 completely new, and unfinished. I've tried it. 
-- 
Remove numerics from my email address.

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#155194

Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 22/08/2026 13:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>> 
>> Are there any good new readers for androids?
> 
> Piaohong is just about acceptable for /reading/. Posting is another 
> matter. It doesn't appear to be available at the Playstore any more.

If by "newsreaders" we mean the ability to read & post with an app, there's
a group for that which showed in the past more than one Android newsreader.
   news.software.readers

This discussion comes up every year, and there are multiple newsreaders,
where it boils down to which is the least worst of those newsreaders.

In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.

 <https://www.planetusenet.com/groups/comp.mobile.android>
 <https://tinyurl.com/pug-comp-mobile-android>
 <https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/comp.mobile.android>
 <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026
 <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/>
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.mobile.android
 <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
 <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>

But I haven't checked those in a while as most are likely deprecated.

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#155217

On 22/08/2026 18:26, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 22/08/2026 13:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any good new readers for androids?
>>
>> Piaohong is just about acceptable for /reading/. Posting is another
>> matter. It doesn't appear to be available at the Playstore any more.
> 
> If by "newsreaders" we mean the ability to read & post with an app, there's
> a group for that which showed in the past more than one Android newsreader.
>     news.software.readers
> 
> This discussion comes up every year, and there are multiple newsreaders,
> where it boils down to which is the least worst of those newsreaders.
> 
> In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.

>   <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026

It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
"Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

-- 
Jeff

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#155218

Jeff Layman wrote:
>> In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
>>   <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026
> 
> It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
> "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

Hi Jeff,

Oh, wow. Really? That sucks. 

What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF? 
They're idiots.

I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
 <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> 

I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere),
that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?

Dunno... 

Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?

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#155226

On 23/08/2026 16:12, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
>>>    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026
>>
>> It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
>> "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.
> 
> What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
> They're idiots.
> 
> I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
>   <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>
> 
> I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere),
> that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
> infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?
> 
> Dunno...
> 
> Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?

Have a look at the first couple of sections here:
<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/online-safety-act-explainer>

The problem is really the final paragraph of "Who the Act applies to". 
This is why Newsgrouper has cut off access by anyone in the UK 
(generally based on IP address).

And it could get even tougher. At 
<https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/news/217266/online-safety-act-inquiry-launched-by-committee/>, 
published on 27 July, it states "However, serious concerns have been 
raised that the regime is currently ineffective. Ofcom, the regulator 
charged with its implementation and enforcement, has faced criticism for 
not going far enough or fast enough in its efforts to hold online 
services and tech companies to account."

Mission creep, eh?...

-- 
Jeff

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#155231

On Sun 23/08/2026 18:51, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 23/08/2026 16:12, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>> In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
>>>>    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as 
>>>> of 6/2026
>>>
>>> It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
>>> "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.
>>
>> What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
>> They're idiots.
>>
>> I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
>>   <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>
>>
>> I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere),
>> that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
>> infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?
>>
>> Dunno...
>>
>> Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?
> 
> Have a look at the first couple of sections here:
> <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/ 
> online-safety-act-explainer>
> 
> The problem is really the final paragraph of "Who the Act applies to". 
> This is why Newsgrouper has cut off access by anyone in the UK 
> (generally based on IP address).
> 
> And it could get even tougher. At <https://committees.parliament.uk/ 
> committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/news/217266/online- 
> safety-act-inquiry-launched-by-committee/>, published on 27 July, it 
> states "However, serious concerns have been raised that the regime is 
> currently ineffective. Ofcom, the regulator charged with its 
> implementation and enforcement, has faced criticism for not going far 
> enough or fast enough in its efforts to hold online services and tech 
> companies to account."
> 
> Mission creep, eh?...
> 

Try using Eternal-September. I have not found any problems with it i 
nearly 20 years.

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#155234

As of Sun, 23 Aug 2026 20:13:25 +0100, Woody wrote:
> Try using Eternal-September. I have not found any problems with it i 
> nearly 20 years.

Where is the searchable ES webpage archive you speak of which allows anyone
(not just Ray Banana's subscribers) to search & reference Usenet articles?

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#155235

On 23/08/2026 20:13, Woody wrote:
> On Sun 23/08/2026 18:51, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 23/08/2026 16:12, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>>> In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
>>>>>    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as 
>>>>> of 6/2026
>>>>
>>>> It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
>>>> "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.
>>>
>>> What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
>>> They're idiots.
>>>
>>> I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
>>>   <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>
>>>
>>> I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere),
>>> that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
>>> infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?
>>>
>>> Dunno...
>>>
>>> Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?
>>
>> Have a look at the first couple of sections here:
>> <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/ online-safety-act-explainer>
>>
>> The problem is really the final paragraph of "Who the Act applies to". 
>> This is why Newsgrouper has cut off access by anyone in the UK 
>> (generally based on IP address).
>>
>> And it could get even tougher. At <https://committees.parliament.uk/ 
>> committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/news/217266/online- 
>> safety-act-inquiry-launched-by-committee/>, published on 27 July, it 
>> states "However, serious concerns have been raised that the regime is 
>> currently ineffective. Ofcom, the regulator charged with its 
>> implementation and enforcement, has faced criticism for not going far 
>> enough or fast enough in its efforts to hold online services and tech 
>> companies to account."
>>
>> Mission creep, eh?...
>>
> 
> Try using Eternal-September. I have not found any problems with it i 
> nearly 20 years.

Its fine, but the question was readers for mobile devices. "newsgrouper" 
has web pages that work on a mobile device, eternal september doesn't


Davr

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#155216

Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> Написал в сообщении:

> There are some Italian enthusiasts who have rewritten Piaohong to some 
> extent. The latest one is still working on it. If you want to see how 
> it's going, it's probably best to subscribe to it.tlc.cellulari.android 
> and use DeepL or Google to translate the text.

Thanks! I downloaded it yesterday and installed.  Great! )


-- 
With best regards,
Ivan Zelenyi

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#155202

Jim the Geordie wrote:

> Are there any good new readers for androids?

I've never found one that I consider worth using, but other people seem 
to disagree ...

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#155215

Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:

> Are there any good new readers for androids?

        One less mentioned  possibility, is that you
  can use Termux  on your Android, to  SSH into your
  server or workstation, and use  a CLI / TUI reader
  running on there.  This  keeps your muscle memory,
  your configurations, your  kill-files, and also of
  course your reading state, the same everywhere.  I
  also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
  on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
  Usenet reader;  GNUS.  If  you're into  Emacs, and
  don't find using it  on Android too annoying, then
  you might enjoy using GNUS  on there too.  None of
  those options are user-friendly of course, but can
  be perhaps useful to a power user.

Best Regards,
Lumin Etherlight

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#155227

Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> writes:

> Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Are there any good new readers for androids?
>
>         One less mentioned  possibility, is that you
>   can use Termux  on your Android, to  SSH into your
>   server or workstation, and use  a CLI / TUI reader
>   running on there.  This  keeps your muscle memory,
>   your configurations, your  kill-files, and also of
>   course your reading state, the same everywhere.  I
>   also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
>   on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
>   Usenet reader;  GNUS.  If  you're into  Emacs, and
>   don't find using it  on Android too annoying, then
>   you might enjoy using GNUS  on there too.  None of
>   those options are user-friendly of course, but can
>   be perhaps useful to a power user.
>
> Best Regards,
> Lumin Etherlight

It is at least somewhat usable, the biggest hurdle so far may be the
software keyboard I'm using (Hacker's Keyboard). Among other issues like
key placement, it refuses to emit Alt+key for some keys, which
really comes as a bit inconvenient within Emacsen (it has Esc as a
separate key and that one seems (so far) to always work).

Also, the post width, but maybe I can apply tweaks other than
rotating...

(No Termux here, though.)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#155230

In article <jm5oqjA23HyOZXdPxms0OS9tvM4NjMIs@etherlight.link>, 
lumin+usenet@etherlight.link says...
> 
> Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:
> 
> > Are there any good new readers for androids?
> 
>         One less mentioned  possibility, is that you
>   can use Termux  on your Android, to  SSH into your
>   server or workstation, and use  a CLI / TUI reader
>   running on there.  This  keeps your muscle memory,
>   your configurations, your  kill-files, and also of
>   course your reading state, the same everywhere.  I
>   also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
>   on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
>   Usenet reader;  GNUS.  If  you're into  Emacs, and
>   don't find using it  on Android too annoying, then
>   you might enjoy using GNUS  on there too.  None of
>   those options are user-friendly of course, but can
>   be perhaps useful to a power user.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Lumin Etherlight

Sorry I asked :)

-- 
Jim the Geordie

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