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Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details

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First post2025-09-25 18:05 +0000
Last post2025-09-29 14:19 -0700
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  Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Linux-Mint-User <"LM..."@Mint.Users.com> - 2025-09-25 18:05 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-09-25 22:07 +0200
    [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details anonymous <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-09-26 00:04 +0100
      Re: [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-09-26 11:59 +1200
        Re: [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Gabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu> - 2025-09-25 22:23 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-27 17:32 +0200
        Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-29 09:24 +0200
      Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-09-26 14:40 -0700
      Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details James Bond <"007..."@dirge.harmsk.com> - 2025-09-26 20:50 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-29 09:23 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-09-26 12:51 -0700
      [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-09-27 11:10 +0100
    Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-09-28 09:49 +1300
      Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-09-29 11:52 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-29 09:21 +0200
      Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-09-29 07:44 -0700
      Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-09-29 14:19 -0700

#150726 — Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details

FromLinux-Mint-User <"LM..."@Mint.Users.com>
Date2025-09-25 18:05 +0000
SubjectMicrosoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details
Message-ID<20250925180534.6C9703E720@mail.tcpreset.net>
Why the heck would you use windows spyware???

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas

Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/

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#150728

FromNomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
Date2025-09-25 22:07 +0200
Message-ID<9846600d1a59083a867656803814e735@dizum.com>
In reply to#150726
In article <20250925180534.6C9703E720@mail.tcpreset.net>
Linux-Mint-User <"LM..."@Mint.Users.com> wrote:
>
> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
>
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>
> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/

I have it in a VM.

<https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=microsoft+disable+windows+recall>

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#150729 — [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details

Fromanonymous <noreply@mixmin.net>
Date2025-09-26 00:04 +0100
Subject[Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details
Message-ID<20250926.000418.85d0a3df@mixmin.net>
In reply to#150726
Linux-Mint-User wrote:
>
> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???

Are you fucking totally stupid?  That only happens on certain boxes 
and you have to opt in.  Of course, most Linux users are pretty 
stupid.

> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>
> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/

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#150730 — Re: [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2025-09-26 11:59 +1200
SubjectRe: [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details
Message-ID<10b4l1f$lj05$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150729
On 2025-09-25 23:04:18 +0000, anonymous said:
> Linux-Mint-User wrote:
>> 
>> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
> 
> Are you fucking totally stupid?  That only happens on certain boxes
> and you have to opt in.  Of course, most Linux users are pretty
> stupid.

Linux users have more than enough brains to realise that Windoze is 
God-awful crap ... but not enough to use the real operating system: 
MacOS.  :-)



>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>> 
>> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/

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#150731 — Re: [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details

FromGabriel Coan <rockettaco37@rt37.nu>
Date2025-09-25 22:23 -0400
SubjectRe: [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details
Message-ID<10b4tf2$n7rf$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150730
On 9/25/25 7:59 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2025-09-25 23:04:18 +0000, anonymous said:
>> Linux-Mint-User wrote:
>>>
>>> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
>>
>> Are you fucking totally stupid?  That only happens on certain boxes
>> and you have to opt in.  Of course, most Linux users are pretty
>> stupid.
> 
> Linux users have more than enough brains to realise that Windoze is God- 
> awful crap ... but not enough to use the real operating system: MacOS.  :-)
> 
> 
> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>>>
>>> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/
> 
> 

Sending this from my Mac. :D

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#150741

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-09-27 17:32 +0200
Message-ID<10b902a$5ipt$1@solani.org>
In reply to#150729
Am 26.09.25 um 23:40 schrieb sms:
> Ironically, out-of-the-box, OS-X and Windows are significantly more
> secure than most Linux distros. You can take steps to make Linux more
> secure,

Brain dead idiot!
Still in the loony bin?


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#150793

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-29 09:24 +0200
Message-ID<mjuqheFr3n7U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150741
Jörg Lorenz, 2025-09-27 17:32:

> Am 26.09.25 um 23:40 schrieb sms:
>> Ironically, out-of-the-box, OS-X and Windows are significantly more
>> secure than most Linux distros. You can take steps to make Linux more
>> secure,
> 
> Brain dead idiot!
> Still in the loony bin?

JFTR: many Linux distros still include "sudo" by default.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150752

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2025-09-26 14:40 -0700
Message-ID<10b7191$1alnj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150729
On 9/26/2025 1:50 PM, James Bond wrote:

<snip>

> The video is spot on, David is a cybersecurity professional!

Unlikely.

Or he's just clueless about Microsoft Recall, but decided to make a 
video about it anyway.

Recall is an optional feature that you have to opt into if you want to 
use it. I don't even recall it popping up as an option during setup, you 
have to go to Settings > Privacy & Security > Recall & snapshots to turn 
it on, and it requires biometric authorization to use it (facial 
recognition or fingerprint), not just a password or PIN.

Ironically, out-of-the-box, OS-X and Windows are significantly more 
secure than most Linux distros. You can take steps to make Linux more 
secure, often called "hardened Linux," by starting with one of the more 
secure secure distros, see 
<https://linuxsecurity.com/features/explore-the-top-secure-linux-distros-for-privacy-security-in-2025>.

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#150757

FromJames Bond <"007..."@dirge.harmsk.com>
Date2025-09-26 20:50 +0000
Message-ID<20250926205014.52D463E71F@mail.tcpreset.net>
In reply to#150729
>Are you fucking totally stupid?  That only happens on certain boxes 
>and you have to opt in.  Of course, most Linux users are pretty 
>stupid.
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>>
>> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/

The video is spot on, David is a cybersecurity professional! I would
take his advice any day before yours.

Apart from that there is a lot of other stuff going on in windows
software that you don't even know about buddy!

Microsoft and Google are the same: "SPYWARE"

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#150792

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-29 09:23 +0200
Message-ID<mjuqerFr3n7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150757
James Bond, 2025-09-26 22:50:

>> Are you fucking totally stupid?  That only happens on certain boxes 
>> and you have to opt in.  Of course, most Linux users are pretty 
>> stupid.
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>>>
>>> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/
> 
> The video is spot on, David is a cybersecurity professional! I would
> take his advice any day before yours.

His advice is not to avoid Windows, just not to by ARM based PCs but use
Intel or AMD instead with a recommendation for AMD.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150737

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2025-09-26 12:51 -0700
Message-ID<10b6qru$18rcb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150726
On 9/25/2025 11:05 AM, Linux-Mint-User wrote:
> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas

Microsoft Recall snapshots is off, by default, when you set up a new 
Windows PC with Copilot. You have to explicitly turn it on, in settings, 
if you want to use it.

The author of the video you referenced is clueless.

BTW, if you want a secure Linux machine, you can learn about how to 
increase security, and which distros are most secure, at 
<https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/guides/linux-hardening.html> . 
Mint isn't a distro to use if you're genuinely concerned about security.

-- 

“Linux is only free if your time has no value.” ─ Jamie Zawinski

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#150760 — [Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details

FromNomen Nescio <noreply@mixmin.net>
Date2025-09-27 11:10 +0100
Subject[Spam] Re: Microsoft Recall With Copilot Can See Your Credit Card Details
Message-ID<20250927.111047.39bcdd6d@mixmin.net>
In reply to#150737
sms said in 10b6qru$18rcb$1@dont-email.me:
>
> On 9/25/2025 11:05 AM, Linux-Mint-User wrote:
>> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>
> Microsoft Recall snapshots is off, by default, when you set up a new
> Windows PC with Copilot. You have to explicitly turn it on, in settings,
> if you want to use it.
>
> The author of the video you referenced is clueless.
>
> BTW, if you want a secure Linux machine, you can learn about how to
> increase security, and which distros are most secure, at
> <https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/guides/linux-hardening.html> .
> Mint isn't a distro to use if you're genuinely concerned about security.

SUSE isn't either.

> --
>
> “Linux is only free if your time has no value.” ─ Jamie Zawinski
>

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#150746

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2025-09-28 09:49 +1300
Message-ID<10b9iki$1uocv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150726
On 2025-09-27 20:40:16 +0000, James Bond said:
>> 
>> What's the percentage of Linux desktop users?
> 
> Last I heard it was only about 7%

According to many places, as of August 2025, the desktop operating 
system market shares are somewhere around:

    69.75%  Windoze
    11.48%  unknown
     8.69%  OS X
     4.79%  macOS
     3.93%  Linux
     1.36%  Chrome OS

<https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/>




> and the reason for that being is the other 93% have pea sized brains 
> and are brain dead and also trust "BIG BROTHER" to look after them.
> 
> Honestly, if you're a windows user then Linux Mint is for you. Simple 
> like windows with only an hour or two learning curve!
> 
> Get Linux now! https://linuxmint.com/

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#150799

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-09-29 11:52 +0200
Message-ID<10bdks6$8d5i$2@solani.org>
In reply to#150746
On 27.09.25 22:49, Your Name wrote:
> On 2025-09-27 20:40:16 +0000, James Bond said:
>>>
>>> What's the percentage of Linux desktop users?
>>
>> Last I heard it was only about 7%
> 
> According to many places, as of August 2025, the desktop operating 
> system market shares are somewhere around:
> 
>     69.75%  Windoze
>     11.48%  unknown
>      8.69%  OS X
>      4.79%  macOS
>      3.93%  Linux
>      1.36%  Chrome OS

Sweet!
Your "unknown" is also Mac.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita."

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#150791

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-29 09:21 +0200
Message-ID<mjuqbqFr3n7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150726
Linux-Mint-User, 2025-09-25 20:05:

> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
> 
> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/

Or just don't install Microsoft Recall and CoPilot or remove it, if it
was installed.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150803

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2025-09-29 07:44 -0700
Message-ID<10be60h$32cfk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150791
On 9/29/2025 12:21 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Linux-Mint-User, 2025-09-25 20:05:
> 
>> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>>
>> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/
> 
> Or just don't install Microsoft Recall and CoPilot or remove it, if it
> was installed.
Since you have to explicitly enable Recall, just don't opt in.

Also, if you do install Linux, because you want a more secure system, do 
not use the Mint distro.

"Linux Mint provides fewer updates, offering a solid foundation and a 
careful approach, which may appeal to users seeking a stable 
environment. However, this approach may not always include the latest 
security updates."

Also see "Navigating Secure Linux Distros for Enhanced Privacy in 2025" 
<https://linuxsecurity.com/features/must-read-articles/7-best-linux-distros-for-security-and-privacy-in-2020>.

You can certainly build a very secure Linux system, but you can't do it 
with Mint.

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#150807

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2025-09-29 14:19 -0700
Message-ID<10bet4m$39664$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150791
On 9/29/2025 12:21 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Linux-Mint-User, 2025-09-25 20:05:
> 
>> Why the heck would you use windows spyware???
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPvIiaLkCas
>>
>> Install Linux Mint now: https://linuxmint.com/
> 
> Or just don't install Microsoft Recall and CoPilot or remove it, if it
> was installed.
Whoever made that video is pretty clueless about Microsoft Windows, 
CoPilot, and Recall. He's obviously not a cybersecurity expert.

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