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  OT ?>  More about the case than the phone.   Won't stick to dash.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-27 13:50 +0300
    Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 12:12 +0100
    Re: OT ?>  More about the case than the phone.   Won't stick to dash. Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> - 2026-09-27 15:21 +0100
      Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-27 09:07 -0700
        Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:07 +0100
          Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-29 11:20 +0300
      Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 20:00 +0200
        Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:14 +0000
          Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 02:11 +0200
            Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-29 11:21 +0300
              Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:54 +0200
        Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-27 13:22 -0700
          Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 02:12 +0200
            Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-27 19:14 -0700
              Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:13 +0200
                Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-28 12:42 -0700
                  Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 02:15 +0200

#156176 — OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

My old phone burst so I have a new phone and I decided to join the
with-in generation by getting a case that has a cover for the camera
lens.  

Is it worth having a camera cover if the phone won't stay on the
magnetic bracket, or is it possible to have both?

I don't want a bracket that squeezes he phone because i often take it
off to do something while at a red light.  The magnet was great when it
worked. 

I keep my phone in my front pocket, try to keep keys in the other pocked
and have never scratched the lens, but I thought I should not tempt
fate. 

But it's thicker elsewhere too and depite having a one-inch metal button
that is supposed to work with the magnetic cellphone holder, it keeps
falling off the dashboard.   I've put the big metal plate inside the
case but that didn't help, I think, because the case is so much thicker
than the 2- or 3-mm aoft case the prior phone had. 

This one also has a fold-out "leg" that lets it sit at an angle when
sitting sidewasys.  That's nice but it makes the non-lens area thicker.

Am I going to be able to find a case with a lens cover that won't do
this???  Or should I give up on the lens cover and look for a simple
case?   

Have any of you ever scratched your camera's lens?  Did it ruin the
pictures? 

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#156177 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

micky wrote:

> a one-inch metal button that is supposed to work with the magnetic
> cellphone holder

With those, if the magnet is strong enough to hold the phone, it 
interferes with the compass sand when stationary the satnav is confused 
which direction it's pointing (when in motion the GPS allows it to work 
out direction).

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In article <e1qhbl123v7t4adhiaanctbsfpv1feaed0@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...
> 
> My old phone burst so I have a new phone and I decided to join the
> with-in generation by getting a case that has a cover for the camera
> lens.  
> 
> Is it worth having a camera cover if the phone won't stay on the
> magnetic bracket, or is it possible to have both?
> 
> I don't want a bracket that squeezes he phone because i often take it
> off to do something while at a red light.  The magnet was great when it
> worked. 
> 
> I keep my phone in my front pocket, try to keep keys in the other pocked
> and have never scratched the lens, but I thought I should not tempt
> fate. 
> 
> But it's thicker elsewhere too and depite having a one-inch metal button
> that is supposed to work with the magnetic cellphone holder, it keeps
> falling off the dashboard.   I've put the big metal plate inside the
> case but that didn't help, I think, because the case is so much thicker
> than the 2- or 3-mm aoft case the prior phone had. 
> 
> This one also has a fold-out "leg" that lets it sit at an angle when
> sitting sidewasys.  That's nice but it makes the non-lens area thicker.
> 
> Am I going to be able to find a case with a lens cover that won't do
> this???  Or should I give up on the lens cover and look for a simple
> case?   
> 
> Have any of you ever scratched your camera's lens?  Did it ruin the
> pictures? 

In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand, while in the 
driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked in a safe place with 
the engine off.
At a red light would earn you lots of penalty points/fine/ban.

-- 
Jim the Geordie

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#156180 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

Jim the Geordie wrote:
> micky wrote:

>> I don't want a bracket that squeezes the phone because i often
>> take it off to do something while at a red light.

> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand, while in
> the driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked in a safe place
> with the engine off. At a red light would earn you lots of penalty
> points/fine/ban.

Same in my state (AZ-US)...

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#156181 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 2026-09-27, AJL wrote:

> Jim the Geordie wrote:
>> micky wrote:
>
>>> I don't want a bracket that squeezes the phone because i often
>>> take it off to do something while at a red light.
>
>> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand, while in
>> the driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked in a safe place
>> with the engine off. At a red light would earn you lots of penalty
>> points/fine/ban.
>
> Same in my state (AZ-US)...

Are you sure? I'd think it'd be an *offense* there.



(Sorry, I'm apparently in the mood for silly jokes...)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#156197 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 27 Sep 2026 18:07:22 +0100, Nuno Silva
<nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 2026-09-27, AJL wrote:
>
>> Jim the Geordie wrote:
>>> micky wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't want a bracket that squeezes the phone because i often
>>>> take it off to do something while at a red light.
>>
>>> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand, while in
>>> the driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked in a safe place
>>> with the engine off. At a red light would earn you lots of penalty
>>> points/fine/ban.
>>
>> Same in my state (AZ-US)...
>
>Are you sure? I'd think it'd be an *offense* there.

I thought about that too.  Is it really the "same"?
>
>
>(Sorry, I'm apparently in the mood for silly jokes...)

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#156182 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 2026-09-27 16:21, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> In article <e1qhbl123v7t4adhiaanctbsfpv1feaed0@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
> @fmguy.com says...
>>
>> My old phone burst so I have a new phone and I decided to join the
>> with-in generation by getting a case that has a cover for the camera
>> lens.
>>
>> Is it worth having a camera cover if the phone won't stay on the
>> magnetic bracket, or is it possible to have both?
>>
>> I don't want a bracket that squeezes he phone because i often take it
>> off to do something while at a red light.  The magnet was great when it
>> worked.
>>
>> I keep my phone in my front pocket, try to keep keys in the other pocked
>> and have never scratched the lens, but I thought I should not tempt
>> fate.
>>
>> But it's thicker elsewhere too and depite having a one-inch metal button
>> that is supposed to work with the magnetic cellphone holder, it keeps
>> falling off the dashboard.   I've put the big metal plate inside the
>> case but that didn't help, I think, because the case is so much thicker
>> than the 2- or 3-mm aoft case the prior phone had.
>>
>> This one also has a fold-out "leg" that lets it sit at an angle when
>> sitting sidewasys.  That's nice but it makes the non-lens area thicker.
>>
>> Am I going to be able to find a case with a lens cover that won't do
>> this???  Or should I give up on the lens cover and look for a simple
>> case?
>>
>> Have any of you ever scratched your camera's lens?  Did it ruin the
>> pictures?
> 
> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand, while in the
> driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked in a safe place with
> the engine off.
> At a red light would earn you lots of penalty points/fine/ban.

Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#156184 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.

  Well, the red lights thing, is a *totally* different discussion!

  Spoiler: I'm from NL.

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#156186 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 2026-09-27 21:14, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.
> 
>    Well, the red lights thing, is a *totally* different discussion!
> 
>    Spoiler: I'm from NL.

(groan)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#156198 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 02:11:11 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2026-09-27 21:14, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.
>> 
>>    Well, the red lights thing, is a *totally* different discussion!
>> 
>>    Spoiler: I'm from NL.
>
>(groan)

I didn't get what Frank said until I saw  you groan. 

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#156199 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 2026-09-29 10:21, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 28 Sep 2026 02:11:11 +0200, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-09-27 21:14, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.
>>>
>>>     Well, the red lights thing, is a *totally* different discussion!
>>>
>>>     Spoiler: I'm from NL.
>>
>> (groan)
> 
> I didn't get what Frank said until I saw  you groan.

LOL :-D

Took me a bit of thinking, too. :-)


Decades ago here, we would see those sites on the roads announced with a 
coloured light bulb. Some were so shabby that they used a kitchen 
plastic bottle with shiny colours with a bulb inside put over the door.

Others used colour fluorescent stripes, expensive looking site from the 
outside. Still do. Which is funny because they are officially 
prohibited: if I know where they are and what they are, so does the 
police...


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#156185 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Jim the Geordie wrote:

>> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand, while
>> in the driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked in a safe
>> place with the engine off. At a red light would earn you lots of
>> penalty points/fine/ban.

> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.

I can always tell when someone is using their phone at a red light.
Cause when the light turns green they just sit there with their head
down working their phone. In heavy traffic the delay causes some at the
end of the line to miss the light. A good ticket IMO but never a cop
when you need one. Course you could always honk but that could be
dangerous cause in my area it might get you shot. We call it Road Rage...

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#156187 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 2026-09-27 22:22, AJL wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Jim the Geordie wrote:
> 
>>> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand, while
>>> in the driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked in a safe
>>> place with the engine off. At a red light would earn you lots of
>>> penalty points/fine/ban.
> 
>> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.
> 
> I can always tell when someone is using their phone at a red light.
> Cause when the light turns green they just sit there with their head
> down working their phone. In heavy traffic the delay causes some at the
> end of the line to miss the light. A good ticket IMO but never a cop
> when you need one. Course you could always honk but that could be
> dangerous cause in my area it might get you shot. We call it Road Rage...

Here you just wave (meaning "sorry!") and drive on.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#156188 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> AJL wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Jim the Geordie wrote:

>>>> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand,
>>>> while in the driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked
>>>> in a safe place with the engine off. At a red light would earn
>>>> you lots of penalty points/fine/ban.

>>> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.

>> I can always tell when someone is using their phone at a red light.
>> Cause when the light turns green they just sit there with their
>> head down working their phone. In heavy traffic the delay causes
>> some at the end of the line to miss the light. A good ticket IMO
>> but never a cop when you need one. Course you could always honk but
>> that could be dangerous cause in my area it might get you shot. We
>> call it Road Rage...


> Here you just wave (meaning "sorry!") and drive on.

Copilot seems to disagree:

Road Rage in Spain:

Recent research shows that 74% of Spanish drivers admit to engaging in
road rage behaviors, with aggressive overtaking, insults, and other
uncivil driving practices being common.

Over 7 million drivers overtake aggressively to intimidate others.

29% use their horn repeatedly as a complaint.

3.7 million have challenged other motorists to get out of their cars.

Majorca Daily BulletinMajorca Daily Bulletin.

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#156189 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 2026-09-28 04:14, AJL wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> AJL wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> Jim the Geordie wrote:
> 
>>>>> In the UK it is an offence to have your phone in your hand,
>>>>> while in the driving seat of a vehicle, unless you are parked
>>>>> in a safe place with the engine off. At a red light would earn
>>>>> you lots of penalty points/fine/ban.
> 
>>>> Same here, but I wonder what is the problem with red lights.
> 
>>> I can always tell when someone is using their phone at a red light.
>>> Cause when the light turns green they just sit there with their
>>> head down working their phone. In heavy traffic the delay causes
>>> some at the end of the line to miss the light. A good ticket IMO
>>> but never a cop when you need one. Course you could always honk but
>>> that could be dangerous cause in my area it might get you shot. We
>>> call it Road Rage...
> 
> 
>> Here you just wave (meaning "sorry!") and drive on.
> 
> Copilot seems to disagree:
> 
> Road Rage in Spain:
> 
> Recent research shows that 74% of Spanish drivers admit to engaging in
> road rage behaviors, with aggressive overtaking, insults, and other
> uncivil driving practices being common.
> 
> Over 7 million drivers overtake aggressively to intimidate others.
> 
> 29% use their horn repeatedly as a complaint.
> 
> 3.7 million have challenged other motorists to get out of their cars.
> 
> Majorca Daily BulletinMajorca Daily Bulletin.

I drive almost daily here and have not noticed. There is some, but not 
much. Maybe in some cities it is worse.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#156194 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 9/28/2026 12:13 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-09-28 04:14, AJL wrote:

>> Road Rage in Spain: Recent research shows that 74% of Spanish
>> drivers admit to engaging in road rage behaviors, with aggressive
>> overtaking, insults, and other uncivil driving practices being
>> common.

> I drive almost daily here and have not noticed. There is some, but
> not much.

I've not had any personal problems here either (knocks on wood).

> Maybe in some cities it is worse.

I live in a large metro area (pop 5m) and The info I get on our road
rage problem is from the news...

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#156195 — Re: OT ?> More about the case than the phone. Won't stick to dash.

On 2026-09-28 21:42, AJL wrote:
> On 9/28/2026 12:13 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-09-28 04:14, AJL wrote:
> 
>>> Road Rage in Spain: Recent research shows that 74% of Spanish
>>> drivers admit to engaging in road rage behaviors, with aggressive
>>> overtaking, insults, and other uncivil driving practices being
>>> common.
> 
>> I drive almost daily here and have not noticed. There is some, but
>> not much.
> 
> I've not had any personal problems here either (knocks on wood).
> 
>> Maybe in some cities it is worse.
> 
> I live in a large metro area (pop 5m) and The info I get on our road
> rage problem is from the news...

Today of all days a driver was killed by another driver in a motorway. 
Road rage, apparently. It is in the news because it is rare.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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