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| Started by | Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> |
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| First post | 2015-07-22 10:06 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-07-23 08:39 +1000 |
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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 10:06 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:23 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:56 +1000
anonymous sims in EU (was: Who pays for a phone..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-07-23 20:21 +0200
Re: anonymous sims in EU tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-03 20:04 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 03:22 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:27 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-22 17:00 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 13:26 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:00 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:22 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-22 10:07 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:06 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2015-07-22 13:13 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:08 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2015-07-24 11:22 +0800
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 14:36 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:12 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:34 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 16:58 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 17:51 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 09:57 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-24 14:32 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Wolfgang Barth <barthwo@spamfence.net> - 2015-07-24 15:38 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-24 09:26 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:22 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-25 11:19 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:17 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-07-25 11:18 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:47 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 09:46 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 03:50 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 06:59 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-04 16:21 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 08:52 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:30 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-04 19:33 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-06 09:39 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:17 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:41 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-04 17:25 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:26 +1000
voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-05 20:08 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-05 14:58 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-05 15:16 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 12:41 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-05 16:03 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:24 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:34 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:51 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-21 19:45 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 09:17 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-24 17:49 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 13:40 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-24 19:03 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-25 09:52 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 22:28 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-25 08:17 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 10:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-10-25 18:50 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-25 18:00 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 10:16 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-26 07:24 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:13 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 07:09 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 20:03 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 18:33 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-26 08:07 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-10-25 14:58 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-10-25 17:10 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-10-26 10:08 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:09 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-26 07:27 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 10:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <slocombjbEDIT@gmail.xyz> - 2015-10-27 07:11 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 20:09 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-26 21:24 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:18 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:22 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:41 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:53 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 15:35 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 23:26 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 16:35 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 14:40 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 06:02 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 01:09 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 14:04 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2015-08-09 00:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-09 12:42 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-10 00:18 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-09 17:50 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:19 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:10 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 08:43 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:40 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-11 00:21 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:57 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-11 09:57 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:20 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-12 11:21 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-12 19:50 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-12 16:21 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 12:08 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 09:58 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 17:04 +0200
security concept "rule of least priviledge" (was: voting booths in repu areas) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-17 16:42 -0400
Re: security concept "rule of least priviledge" (was: voting booths in repu areas) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 10:08 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:26 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 09:38 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 17:14 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 11:42 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-13 18:47 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-13 14:22 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 07:00 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-14 11:34 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 06:53 +0700
what's entrapment (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 14:13 +0000
Re: what's entrapment (was: voting booths in republican areas) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:20 +0700
Re: what's entrapment Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-18 22:06 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:43 +0700
prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 13:42 +0000
Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican areas) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:08 +0700
Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt (was: voting booths in republican areas) Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-16 17:14 +0200
Re: prosecutors do not care about guilt Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-17 22:57 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-12 13:07 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-12 18:31 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-12 22:44 -0400
why disclose personal info (was: voting booths in republican areas) Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-15 13:20 +0000
Re: why disclose personal info David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-15 15:12 +0100
Re: why disclose personal info Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-08-15 15:08 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:26 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:23 -0700
accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-15 09:50 -0400
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2015-08-15 16:36 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 10:55 -0700
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-15 14:44 -0500
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:34 -0700
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 09:54 +0700
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-18 11:02 +1000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-22 12:55 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-22 19:08 +0200
security vs. manners (was: accommodating unreasonable searches..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-24 00:48 +0200
Re: security vs. manners Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-24 14:18 -0400
Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:59 -0700
Re: security vs. manners Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-25 13:40 +0200
Re: security vs. manners Travis Bickle <3S96@taxi.net> - 2015-08-25 12:31 -0400
Re: security vs. manners lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2015-08-25 16:38 +0000
Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:29 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 10:19 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 11:45 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 13:53 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 14:39 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 16:56 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 16:08 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:33 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 17:32 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-26 19:51 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-26 18:59 -0500
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-27 08:42 -0400
Re: security vs. manners BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-27 09:24 -0500
Re: security vs. manners tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-26 22:52 -0400
Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:57 -0700
Re: security vs. manners Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:36 +0100
Re: security vs. manners "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2015-08-25 21:04 -0400
Re: security vs. manners tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-26 03:25 -0400
Re: security vs. manners "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:26 -0400
Re: security vs. manners The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 12:18 -0700
Re: security vs. manners (was: accommodating unreasonable searches..) TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-25 08:36 -0400
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-16 23:19 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) "Stuart McCall" <smccall@myunrealbox.com> - 2015-08-17 18:08 +0100
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-17 17:22 -0400
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-17 23:15 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) "Stuart McCall" <smccall@myunrealbox.com> - 2015-08-18 17:11 +0100
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-08-18 23:03 +0000
Re: accommodating unreasonable searches - bad idea (was: voting booths..) Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-19 13:53 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:49 +0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 17:25 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 19:51 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 19:31 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 21:56 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 20:51 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-06 21:48 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 19:29 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 15:40 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-07 00:08 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-07 21:08 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 01:04 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 13:58 +1000
do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican areas) Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-08 14:03 +0200
Re: do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican areas) Elias <elias@nowherenohow.com> - 2015-08-08 10:02 -0500
Re: do absentee voters need photo id? (was: voting booths in republican areas) Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-08 21:28 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 15:23 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas News <News@Group.Post> - 2015-08-06 07:00 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:59 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:33 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 15:34 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 18:50 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 16:55 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:12 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 08:40 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 07:26 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:16 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:24 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:16 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:22 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 07:35 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-06 14:36 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:18 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:31 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 14:04 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 14:27 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:44 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 13:58 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:12 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:36 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-10 20:05 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 06:18 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 15:27 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:38 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 15:25 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 15:19 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:07 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 08:38 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-06 07:25 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 11:11 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-06 07:31 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 12:02 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 11:14 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:38 -0700
leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-07 14:58 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-07 10:56 -0400
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 05:16 +1000
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-25 22:45 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-26 09:24 -0400
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-27 13:47 +0000
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-27 10:20 -0400
q) campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? a) education Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-09-03 08:44 +0000
comp.mobile.android "The Sorceress of Qar" <sorceress@qar.qanar.com> - 2015-08-27 09:23 -0500
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-27 13:01 -0400
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201509.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-09-06 00:12 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-08 16:21 -0700
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-22 23:11 +0200
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 20:54 -0700
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-08-22 23:40 -0500
Bev's reverse logic (was: leader's campaigns..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-09-03 09:22 +0200
Re: Bev's reverse logic David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-09-03 08:44 +0100
Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-23 08:49 -0400
small campaign donations (was: leader's campaigns..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-31 16:06 -0400
leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-08-12 04:08 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-05 18:13 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 16:02 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2015-08-06 18:27 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-07 12:36 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-07 12:38 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-10 08:51 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-10 22:28 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-11 08:53 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-11 01:06 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-11 10:25 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-11 17:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-08-12 09:54 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-05 19:00 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-07 12:39 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-08-06 16:14 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 09:07 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 09:49 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 11:46 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-18 12:38 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 18:51 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 11:14 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 08:31 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 12:56 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 11:57 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 15:04 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 12:22 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-19 15:36 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 06:09 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 13:10 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:03 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 12:39 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-19 20:09 +0000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 14:27 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 14:58 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 16:10 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 08:32 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:14 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-24 08:33 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-24 09:37 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 15:27 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:13 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-19 16:34 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-19 14:46 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 12:40 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-20 09:55 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-20 10:14 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-20 22:35 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:09 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-24 11:02 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-19 00:03 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 19:01 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-19 19:08 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 09:34 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-18 23:57 +0200
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-18 19:05 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 09:28 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-08-19 19:14 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-08-19 09:09 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-19 07:15 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 05:56 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 05:52 +1000
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:15 -0700
Re: voting booths in republican areas David Solimano <david@solimano.org> - 2015-08-06 22:52 -0400
Re: voting booths in republican areas BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-06 21:59 -0500
Re: voting booths in republican areas The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 20:26 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 14:03 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 13:11 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 05:34 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:04 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Dieghettino <d@casa.mia> - 2015-07-26 06:41 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 08:45 +1000
non-EU travellers must carry passports (was: Who pays..) Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-01 20:26 +0200
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-01 21:33 +0100
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-03 23:11 -0400
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-04 14:25 +0100
Re: non-EU travellers must carry passports Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-08-05 18:56 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 04:05 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 07:03 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-04 14:11 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-04 11:19 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:19 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 12:32 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 15:40 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-04 14:15 -0700
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 05:36 +1000
id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-05 20:05 +0000
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-05 13:19 -0700
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 04:46 -0400
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 09:10 -0400
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 14:51 -0400
Re: id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2015-08-06 14:58 -0400
id required at New Mexico's illegal checkpoints? *no* Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-08-08 08:48 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-26 18:45 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:04 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-27 09:51 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 09:30 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:24 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-25 19:57 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-25 16:57 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:39 +1000
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| From | Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-09-03 08:44 +0000 |
| Subject | q) campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? a) education |
| Message-ID | <33c14ccffe22db226c7deaf820efb446@remailer.paranoici.org> |
| In reply to | #22200 |
> Flatly stating that ALL banks oppose the interests of the people is
> wrong,
I didn't say "all banks". I spoke exclusively about the particular
banks that fed political war chests.
Your reply is general, but you've failed to counter my detailed claim.
Since you've failed to counter this, I will say it again: the
contributing banks are buying influence to mitigate banking regulation
that would protect consumers.
Now try again. You get one more chance.
Or if that's a struggle, I'll give you another point that you can try
attacking. These banks/FIs support the (anti-consumer-rights) CISPA
policy:
AEGON
Allianz Life Insurance Co.
Allstate
American Express
Bank of America
Barclays PLC
Capital One
Charles Shwab
CIGNA
Citigroup, Inc.
Discover Financial Services
E*Trade
Fidelity Investments
Fifth Third Bankcorp
The Hartford
HSBC
Ing
JPMorgan Chase
Liberty Mutual
M&T Bank
MasterCard
MetLife, Inc.
Nationwide
The PNC Financial Services Group, Inc.
Prudential Financial Inc.
RBS Americas
State Farm Insurance
SunTrust Banks, Inc.
TD Bank
Wells Fargo & Company
Visa
Obviously I'm not generalizing all banks, just particular banks. Note
that the banks that fed Romney's war chest also appear on that list
above.
Let me know if I should go further, and match banks on the above list
with those getting the poorest consumer ratings and highest numbers of
complaints.
> as is stating that ALL education interests align with the people.
Again, you're the one generalizing. If you want to prove me wrong,
prove that these particular schools work against the interest of the
people:
University of California
Harvard University
Stanford University
Columbia University
Good luck!
> In fact, flatly stating that "the people" can in any way be ALL
> "aligned" when it comes to politics is even farther from the truth.
Find me some people that benefit from an uneducated public - then try
grouping them with "we the people". This should be interesting.
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| From | "The Sorceress of Qar" <sorceress@qar.qanar.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 09:23 -0500 |
| Subject | comp.mobile.android |
| Message-ID | <mrn6g1$ikq$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #22199 |
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| From | "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 13:01 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? |
| Message-ID | <mrnfla$93e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22199 |
"Anonymous" <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote in message news:80e2faf736e31a682b1128d681f46009@remailer.paranoici.org... >> > The difference is in what the industries lobby for. Educational >> > institutions lobby for more spending on education (e.g. grants and >> > scholarships), which is relatively *aligned* with the needs of the >> > people. The civilized world prefers their young to be well >> > educated. >> >> "Education" is just another business. They lobby for more spending >> because it fills their coffers. They are self-serving just as any >> other business is. > > Of course education is a self-serving business. This only supports my > point. > > A self-serving bank lobbies *against* consumer protection regulation > (therefore opposing the interest of the people). OTOH, a self-serving > educational facility *serves* the people (education interests are > aligned with the people). Self-serving education serves those in control, not those being educated. Most have not a care about those receiving the education. They care about how much $$$ they can get for themselves. > When a bible-driven Bush blocked funding for stem-cell research, > education suffered, not to mention the general detriment to education > whenever you have republican governance. Not to mention the business > impact of giving China an advantage in future medicine (where > stem-cell research is embraced). This is a tired old line. Please cite how "Republican governance" has been a detriment to education, it's pure BS. In case you are not aware, the federal government has little effect on education compared to the states and local governments. >> > No, Obama is much less "bought and paid for" than Romney, despite >> > his larger warchest, since individuals who contribute have >> > absolutely no influence on policy. The companies who contributed >> > are in few numbers and also not directly opposing forces to the >> > will of the people anyway (unlike big banks). >> >> Obama received donations from big banks. > > You shoot yourself in the foot to bring up 2012, where it was Obama's > 2nd term vs. Mccains 1st term. Donations for a 2nd term war chest > obviously have insignficant leverage compared to donations for a 1st > term candidate (McCain would need reelection in 2016, not Obama). So > McCain was much more owned regardless of where the money is sourced. > > But if you look at where the money was sourced anyway, McCains banking > support still shadowed Obama's in 2012: > > https://viviangrant.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/top-campaign-contributors-mccain-and-obama/ > > Your 1st-term candidate also had more of the top donors: > > http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/01/top-donors-2012-election-romney-obama-gingrich > >> Do you really think dumping money into donor's pockets under the >> guise of "investments in green energy" (which were dismal failures) >> was really "the will of the people"? > > It's clear you're getting your news from Fox. > > If we can pretend hypothetically there's a bit of truth to that story > without laughing for a moment, certainly some of the green energy > funding went to donors, and of those some of them went bust. When an > R&D-heavy company goes bust, the research isn't lost. It's very naive > (and neocon-ish) to think that the company has more value to society > than the research it contributes. > > Moreover, green energy and democratic principles are aligned. That > alignment is further strengthened by republicans reluctance to give up > their selfish oil-hogs (SUVs, minivans, etc). You can expect green > energy companies to support opponents of republicans in general, and > you can expect democrats to embrace green energy even in the absence > of green energy donors. So you've made a poor example of money buying > influence. You are deluded. I regret trying to get into a conversation with you. Done. >> >> he's just beholden to different people. >> > >> > "Just?" This is what makes all the difference here. >> >> Some difference it made. Record unemployment numbers, > > Actually the record unemployment (a staggering 10.0) peaked shortly > after Bush handed over the keys to the whitehouse (2009, when Bush's > policy was still impacting). Since then Obama has steadily shrunk > unemployment back down to 5.3. > >> record deficits... > > Ah, so you've not accepted the idea that austerity should be applied > when times are *good* - as opposed to when the economy is struggling. > > The deficit *should* grow in the years 2008-2016. What was stupidly > reckless was growing the deficit in the years 2000-2008, prior to the > disaster. >
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| From | Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201509.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 00:12 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? |
| Message-ID | <6bdfa14e2ece5460c09b68fb0f48fc70@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> |
| In reply to | #22203 |
> Self-serving education serves those in control, Rightly so. To get elected, you *should* have a pro-education agenda. The contrary would be a bad idea. > not those being educated. That's a false dichotomy. Serving students does not require an opposing force on "those in control". In fact it's a mutually inclusive service. > Most have not a care about those receiving the education. They care > about how much $$$ they can get for themselves. 1) This is another false dichotomy. You a full of these. Personal income in these positions is not at odds with education spending. It's not even the same pot of money. 2) Only a lunatic nutter on the frill believes a president becomes president for the money. Anyone remotely capable of acquiring the white house can make far more money strictly in the private sector. > This is a tired old line. That's a conventional wisdom fallacy. The age of the argument doesn't reduce its merit. BTW, Bush's policy is well established. Proof: http://usgovinfo.about.com/blwhrelease16.htm > Please cite how "Republican governance" has been a detriment to > education, it's pure BS. Pure BS to the contrary. It's right there in the republican party platform. This is no secret. Here’s what the 2012 Republican Party platform calls for regarding education (and I quote*): "Parents are responsible for the education of their children." It's not just a particular individual republican nutter - elitism is built into the republican party platform. The propaganda spin they use is "choice" of education. The paradigm is to misappropriate essential financing from public schools to line the pockets of *profit-driven* private schools. They try for this on such a large scale in every state that it's hard to miss. You have this bizarre idea that self-serving education is necessarily detrimental, yet at the same time you're endorsing the party that takes self-serving education to the highest perversion; to the extreme of creating an academic workplace that will attract the extrinsicly motivated (those most interested in the money). You obviously haven't thought this through. (*) http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/what-gop-platform-says-on-education/2012/08/28/4b993bce-f15a-11e1-892d-bc92fee603a7_blog.html > In case you are not aware, the federal government has little effect > on education compared to the states and local governments. Right, so federal grants had little to do with supporting education. And Bush research bans are insignificant. Bullshit. Furthermore, even the republican party states: "Since 1965 the federal government has spent $2 trillion on elementary and secondary education" (ref: Washington Post link above) > You are deluded. I regret trying to get into a conversation with > you. Done. This is probably the strongest, most compelling argument you've made so far, unfortunately.
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| From | Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 16:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) |
| Message-ID | <080820151621048556%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
| In reply to | #21808 |
In article <e084ee3e9c87e996b15a26bae2dff994@dizum.com>, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > > > What is important, though, and what Republicans won't acknowledge, > > > is elected officials being "bought" by big-money donors. > > > > ALL the bastards are bought -- both parties. I apologize to any posters above. Nomen neglected to include your posting headers. > There is a difference. Obama turned down public money, and received > copious small donations from individuals. Obama's war chest shadowed > Romney's because /natural/ people contributed in large numbers to his > grass-roots effort. While Obama had the people, his competitor relied > much more on big-money donations from /legal/ persons > (i.e. corporations). Where do you people come from? Here's a link. <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?cycle=ALL>. Select from the "Election cycle" dropdown for specific information. Large donors change by cycle. The President didn't benefit from big money because he told you so, and you believed that? Wow! leo
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| From | Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201508.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 23:11 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? |
| Message-ID | <9401390aa570b6fc0b35fd95c999029e@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> |
| In reply to | #21853 |
> > Obama turned down public money, and received copious small > > donations from individuals. Obama's war chest shadowed Romney's > > because /natural/ people contributed in large numbers to his > > grass-roots effort. > > Where do you people come from? > Here's a link. <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?cycle=ALL>. That article doesn't show Obama campeign financing specifically. You've made the same error as the guy before you - assuming all candidates are the same. You cannot prove they're all the same by showing figures for /the whole party/, aggregating all candidates in that party. Look at the stats for small contributions to Obama and his opponent. 57% of Obama's war chest came from small individual donations (less than $1k each). Mitt was nowhere near that. No republican would ever be able to achieve that figure, they are far too dependant on big money donors. Republicans are also outnumbered by democrats. > The President didn't benefit from big money because he told you so, > and you believed that? Wow! You're lying about what he said. The presidents exact words were: "First of all, I got a lot of money from a lot of people. And the vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country." It happens to be a true statement, but no one had to take his word for it. Campaign financing is transparent enough that the statement is verified.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 20:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? |
| Message-ID | <mrbg1m$o9h$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22136 |
On 08/22/2015 02:11 PM, Fritz Wuehler wrote: > "First of all, I got a lot of money from a lot of people. And the > vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the > country." > > It happens to be a true statement, but no one had to take his word for > it. Campaign financing is transparent enough that the statement is > verified. The fact that a lot of stupid people gave him money doesn't make him good at his job. -- Cheers, Bev ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| If you're ever about to be mugged by a couple of clowns, don't hesitate - go for the juggler.
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| From | Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 23:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? |
| Message-ID | <mrbikb$vmg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22137 |
The Real Bev wrote: > On 08/22/2015 02:11 PM, Fritz Wuehler wrote: > >> "First of all, I got a lot of money from a lot of people. And the >> vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the >> country." >> >> It happens to be a true statement, but no one had to take his word for >> it. Campaign financing is transparent enough that the statement is >> verified. > > The fact that a lot of stupid people gave him money doesn't make him > good at his job. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AYUB3tQs80 -- Les Cargill
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 09:22 +0200 |
| Subject | Bev's reverse logic (was: leader's campaigns..) |
| Message-ID | <465e1c6345a48ab905f0eb7fc0d423f4@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #22137 |
> The fact that a lot of stupid people gave him money doesn't make him > good at his job. 1) My premise does not depend on post-election performance. 2) That's a red herring. 3) It's a democracy. 4) Your so-called "fact" includes "a lot of", "stupid people". So it's an opinion. Being owned is detrimental to a politicians performance (the extent of which depends on who the owner is and the magnitude of ownership), but it's wrong to reverse that. That is, not being owned does not enhance performance. So while Romney, for example, was owned to a great extent by the worst kind of owners that natural people could hope for (banks resistent to regulation that protects consumers), the ownership posed a more substantial hinderance compared to an opponent owned more so by natural people, and whose corporate owners are more aligned with humanity anyway (education and technology).
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| From | David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-03 08:44 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Bev's reverse logic |
| Message-ID | <ms8tmb$ul9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22237 |
On 03/09/2015 08:22, Nomen Nescio wrote: [] How about taking this to a group where it's more relevant? -- Thanks, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
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| From | TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 08:49 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? |
| Message-ID | <mrcfcr$d8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #22136 |
On 08/22/2015 05:11 PM, Fritz Wuehler wrote: >>> Obama turned down public money, and received copious small >>> donations from individuals. Obama's war chest shadowed Romney's >>> because /natural/ people contributed in large numbers to his >>> grass-roots effort. >> >> Where do you people come from? >> Here's a link. <https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?cycle=ALL>. > > That article doesn't show Obama campeign financing specifically. > You've made the same error as the guy before you - assuming all > candidates are the same. You cannot prove they're all the same by > showing figures for /the whole party/, aggregating all candidates in > that party. > > Look at the stats for small contributions to Obama and his opponent. > > 57% of Obama's war chest came from small individual donations (less > than $1k each). Mitt was nowhere near that. No republican would ever > be able to achieve that figure, they are far too dependant on big > money donors. Republicans are also outnumbered by democrats. > Fascinating. First you complain that branding Democrat candidates as all being the same is invalid, then you do the same thing with Republicans. TJ
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| From | Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> |
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| Date | 2015-08-31 16:06 -0400 |
| Subject | small campaign donations (was: leader's campaigns..) |
| Message-ID | <a67d1714ba07ce1bd348e240a0cac54f@remailer.cpunk.us> |
| In reply to | #22141 |
> Fascinating. First you complain that branding Democrat candidates as > all being the same is invalid, then you do the same thing with > Republicans. That's a false-cause fallacy. I stated particulars for two individual candidates (Obama and Romney), in fact drawn from opensecrets.org data. No induction or deduction was used to construct my general comments about the republican party. The straw-man you've created includes a bogus cause-effect. Leonard Blaisdell attempted to use deduction to take a general statistic and derive from that an incorrect figure to superimpose on the Obama campaign figures. He got burnt because he tried to use a deductive fallacy, and the bullshit was called out. Nice try though!
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| From | Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 04:08 -0400 |
| Subject | leader's campaigns should be financed by banks, or education? (was: vot booths..) |
| Message-ID | <933ae593453a9bf5e9256e82805ea1f7@remailer.cpunk.us> |
| In reply to | #21765 |
> > What is important, though, and what Republicans won't acknowledge, > > is elected officials being "bought" by big-money donors. > > ALL the bastards are bought -- both parties. There is a difference. Obama turned down public money, and received copious small donations from individuals. Obama's war chest shadowed Romney's because /natural/ people contributed in large numbers to his grass-roots effort. While Obama had the people, his competitor relied much more on big-money donations from /legal/ persons (i.e. corporations). Even when you look at the top five contributors of each, it's obvious which candidate is owned by interests less-aligned with that of the people: Obama’s top 5 contributors: * University of California * Microsoft * Google * DLA Piper * Harvard University Romney’s top 5 contributors: * Goldman Sachs * JP Morgan * Morgan Stanley * Bank of America * Credit Suisse Is it better for the people to have their leader owned by big money banking, or education and technology?
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| From | Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 18:13 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: voting booths in republican areas |
| Message-ID | <mpu1qs$ol$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #21695 |
On 8/5/15 2:58 PM, PAS wrote: > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message > news:448fcd2fbde463f54a667ea9a3b0f02b@dizum.com... >>> Am 04.08.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Savageduck: >>> >>> > ...and which State do you live in that photo ID is required at a >>> > polling place? >>> >>> In the US you're not required to prove that you're the one your >>> claiming to be at a polling place? Sounds strange to me... >> >> It varies from one region to the next. Republican voters are die-hard >> voters. So if a voting booth is in a republican stronghold, the >> standard of identity proof is much higher. Republicans are largely >> disciplined on this while democrats are not. So increasing >> restrictions and voting difficulty always reduces number of democratic >> votes. Democrats have less wealth as a whole, and naturally a >> disproportionate higher number of democrats don't have passports or >> driver licenses. >> >> It's a republican political strategy, similar to large billboards >> during campaign times saying "voting fraud is a crime.. will be >> strictly enforced!" Of course everyone knows that, but the strategy >> is actually to frighten legit voters into not taking any risk (like >> those who may not have a driver license or passport, or those who >> recently moved into the area, who might be uncertain whether they were >> automatically deregistered from the previous area, etc). > > Can you cite anything that proves your claim that Democrats have less > wealth than Republicans? Two of the largest blue states are California > and New York. There is far more democratic wealth in those states than > Republican. > > Where do you get your information that polling places in Republican > strongholds require a higher standard of proof of identity? The > standard of identity is the same across an entire state, it does not > differ from one area of a state to another. In New York, we walk into > or polling place, say who we are, then the poll worker looks up our name > on the list and we sign our name. If I know the name and address of > someone else, I can easily claim to be that person and vote fraudulently. > > Democrats don't support voter ID for one simple reason - they have no > interest in prohibiting voter fraud because they benefit from it. How > does requiring voter ID scare off voters? How difficult is it to obtain > an ID? You don't need a driver's license, you can get a state issued ID > card. This notion that requiring voter ID is a political strategy and > that the purpose is to scare off voters is pure bunk. Hey, he's on a roll-- let him go. Libbies just make shit up that sounds good. For them, a straight line is often defined by just one point rather than the two it takes the rest of us... -- 99% of being viewed as intelligent is your ability to pull made-up statistics out of your ass and quote them confidently. - @KelsowFarlander
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 16:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: voting booths in republican areas |
| Message-ID | <050820151602067490%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #21711 |
In article <mpu1qs$ol$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote: > Hey, he's on a roll-- let him go. Libbies just make shit up that sounds > good. For them, a straight line is often defined by just one point > rather than the two it takes the rest of us... Pot kettle black. Wingnuts don't believe in science, equal rights for women, people of color, gays, or in paying their fair share of the cost of living in a free society, nor in being honest, for that matter. Two points do not define a straight line; your mathematical knowledge mirrors your scientific ignorance.
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| From | Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 18:27 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: voting booths in republican areas |
| Message-ID | <slrn20150806182448.474.twooffive@may.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #21712 |
While walking through the streets of Soho in the rain Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote... > Two points do not define a straight line; your mathematical knowledge > mirrors your scientific ignorance. Just out of curiosity, how do *you* define a straight line? Mike "I've always used three to define a plane" Yetto -- "A conference is a gathering of important people who singly can do nothing but together can decide that nothing can be done." - Fred Allen
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| From | Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 12:36 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: voting booths in republican areas |
| Message-ID | <mq2mq6$4sp$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #21712 |
On 8/5/15 7:02 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <mpu1qs$ol$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine > <apache@scalpem.net> wrote: > >> Hey, he's on a roll-- let him go. Libbies just make shit up that sounds >> good. For them, a straight line is often defined by just one point >> rather than the two it takes the rest of us... > > Pot kettle black. > > Wingnuts don't believe in science, equal rights for women, people of > color, gays, or in paying their fair share of the cost of living in a > free society, nor in being honest, for that matter. > > Two points do not define a straight line; your mathematical knowledge > mirrors your scientific ignorance. > You're so silly. I earned a scientific Ph.D. from a top-flight eastern university and for over 40 years, have been licensed in several states to practice my profession. You're also ignorant-- or a liar. The top 10% of earners pay 68% of collected income tax. The top 10% pay 84%. I'm curious though-- what exactly is anyone’s “fair share” of what someone else has worked for and earned? I also support equal rights for everyone-- though oppose special privilege/protection/accommodation based on sex, race, or being homosexual, etc. And I'll always shoot you straight-- though you and yours are quick to label the painful truth as "hate speech" or discrimination. -- The grass isn't greener on the other side; it's greener where you water it.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 12:38 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: voting booths in republican areas |
| Message-ID | <070820151238490109%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #21813 |
In article <mq2mq6$4sp$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> wrote: > You're so silly. I earned a scientific Ph.D. from a top-flight eastern > university and for over 40 years, have been licensed in several states > to practice my profession. yet you're too embarrassed to say which university or what the 'scientific phd' was about.
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| From | Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 08:51 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: voting booths in republican areas |
| Message-ID | <mq9hm0$51b$1@news.sap-ag.de> |
| In reply to | #21813 |
Am 07.08.2015 um 18:36 schrieb Aldo Raine: > On 8/5/15 7:02 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote: >> In article <mpu1qs$ol$1@news.albasani.net>, Aldo Raine >> <apache@scalpem.net> wrote: >> >>> Hey, he's on a roll-- let him go. Libbies just make shit up that sounds >>> good. For them, a straight line is often defined by just one point >>> rather than the two it takes the rest of us... >> >> Pot kettle black. >> >> Wingnuts don't believe in science, equal rights for women, people of >> color, gays, or in paying their fair share of the cost of living in a >> free society, nor in being honest, for that matter. >> >> Two points do not define a straight line; your mathematical knowledge >> mirrors your scientific ignorance. >> > > You're so silly. I earned a scientific Ph.D. from a top-flight eastern > university and for over 40 years, have been licensed in several states > to practice my profession. So what? Does that make you any better than anybody else? > You're also ignorant-- or a liar. The top 10% of earners pay 68% of > collected income tax. The top 10% pay 84%. Now what? The top 10% - do they pay 68% or 84%? 84% of what, btw? And what is that supposed to signify? That they pay their fair share? What if those 10% are good for e.g. 99% of the overall income? Is 68% (or even 84%) still a fair share? And, btw, two points do *not* define a straight line, but can be used to define one. In their own right they're just two points. Nitpicking, I know... ;-) Best regards, Michael
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 22:28 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: voting booths in republican areas |
| Message-ID | <1f593kkpvogyz$.8m0rcz3v6ikm.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #21913 |
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:51:45 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote, anent straight lines: > ... two points ... can be used to > define one ... Oh? What straight line on the surface of the earth do you think the earth's north pole and south pole define? Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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