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Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?
Date 2025-01-03 13:35 +0000
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
> >>
> >>> It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI
> >>> and modified functions.
> >>
> >> AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
> > 
> >    *Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
> > Samsung.
> 
> Hum. No, some manufacturers don't "fill". They add less customization, 
> like Motorola (Lenovo group). This way updates come faster.

  I said "fill", because it's the term 's|b' used. I don't consider my
phones "filled with crap" or having too much customization.

> Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they 
> don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that 
> update comes several months later, because they have to add again their 
> customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.

  As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for
many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.

> This is not absolutely bad, some people do like those additions. I do 
> like them, just not the delay they mean.

  It's a don't care for me. Security updates come in between the major
versions, not only via the manufacturer, but also through 'Google Play
system updates' (note case of the spelling, they are *system* updates,
not updates to the Google Play app or its other components).

> >    Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla",
> > "standard", "stock", etc..
> 
> No, google phones come directly without a customization layer.

  Of course, but they are still customized and I doubt that they don't
come with any Pixel-only or/and third-party software. And over time the
meaning/content of "vanilla"/"standard"/"stock" Android has changed, so
let's not use those meaningless terms and just - as for any Android
phone - mention brand, model and Android version.

  And, one man's "crap" is another man's functionality.

> >    Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
> 
> Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say 
> HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer 
> can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business 
> interests.

  On my HP laptops there's no "promoting" going on. On the current one,
there's about 100MB of HP-related processes, taking no other resources
(CPU, Disk and Network all at 0%).

  FYI, my current laptop no longer has "the recovery feature". There's
no 'Recovery Manager' anymore (which allowed you to re-install a factory
version from the (HP) recovery partition). I assume the Windows 10 and
11 check/repair functions were considered good enough that HP's Recovery
Manager was no longer needed.

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  Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-24 04:09 +0000
    Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-26 14:05 +0100
      Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-27 18:56 +0000
        Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-28 01:50 +0100
          Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 21:28 +0000
            Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-28 23:36 +0100
              Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 00:18 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 02:02 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 02:01 +0100
            Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 00:21 +0000
        Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-28 19:19 +0100
          Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 00:18 +0000
            Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-01-02 14:10 +0100
      Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-27 19:01 +0000
  Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-12-27 21:01 +0100
    Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-28 19:11 +0100
      Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-28 18:47 +0000
        Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 00:26 +0000
        Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-30 17:38 +0100
          Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2024-12-31 07:06 +0000
            Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:51 +0000
              Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:58 +0100
              Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-01 23:06 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-01-02 14:12 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:05 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:43 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 13:35 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-03 22:20 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 14:53 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-05 10:22 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 22:45 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 14:59 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-01-04 09:40 -0700
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 18:45 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-01-04 19:21 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-01-04 12:49 -0700
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:43 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-01-04 14:25 -0700
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:22 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 10:36 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:32 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-05 11:31 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:10 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-03 22:17 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:10 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:25 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 09:50 +0000
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:38 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-03 22:14 +0100
                Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:48 +0000

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