Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?

From	Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
Date	2025-01-03 09:28 +0000
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On 03/01/2025 06:32, R.Wieser wrote:

> I can only hope that Google didn't put its stuff into Androids Linux kernel

All phone manufacturers, including Google (for its Pixel), would 
probably have to modify the kernel in order for it to work with whatever 
hardware they've included in the phone. As the kernel would have to 
interact with the OS, it's probable that Google (and Chinese suppliers 
who were not allowed to use Google's AndroidOS, and so had to write 
their own), had to rewrite parts of the kernel so it could do that.

The very first sentence of 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)> starts 
"Android is a mobile operating system based on a *modified* version of 
the Linux kernel..." (my emphasis!).

>> On an unrelated point, I was surprised to see that GrapheneOS uses
>> automatic updates only. There's no choice - their OS is updated whether
>> you want it or not. That's not what I would have expected.
> 
> I was thinking of turning off automatic updating*, and would also be
> negativily surprised not being able to find it.

<https://grapheneos.org/faq#updates>

> * didn't yet look for it, as I consider that phone to be a tool, not a
> computer on which I do, to me, important stuff (read: hobby programming).

Most of the general public use a cellphone as their only "computer". 
Even if they once owned a desktop or laptop, changes to the telephone 
system mean that they no longer bother with a router and broadband 
connection.

-- 
Jeff

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What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 02:08 +0000
  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 08:11 +0100
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 09:24 -0600
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-01 15:46 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 04:36 +0000
  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-01 10:13 +0000
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 10:50 +0000
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 12:05 +0100
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-01 07:48 -0500
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:33 +0100
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:36 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-01 13:24 -0500
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:36 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:04 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 08:47 +0100
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:40 +0000
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:16 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 08:47 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 11:46 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:04 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 18:40 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 09:10 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-03 11:24 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 07:32 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 09:28 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-03 11:40 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 18:36 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:25 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:46 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:23 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 10:08 -0600
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 17:07 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 11:55 -0600
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:59 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:31 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:57 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:55 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 16:34 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:31 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:24 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 02:02 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:26 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:42 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:25 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-03 04:42 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:48 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 16:23 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 19:58 +0100
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 01:56 -0600
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 11:59 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 16:57 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:32 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 22:33 +0000
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:31 +0000
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 09:29 -0600
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:14 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:17 +0000
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 01:14 +0000
  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:52 +0100
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:05 +0100
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:49 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:50 +0000
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 06:00 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 11:35 +0100
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:55 +0100
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 17:26 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:51 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:17 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-03 04:51 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:49 +0100
  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-01 23:19 +0100
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 01:28 +0000
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 02:08 -0600
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:58 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-03 23:29 +0100
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-03 23:28 +0100
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-04 00:30 -0600
  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Siard <xx@xx.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:24 +0100
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:39 +0100
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 18:25 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-04 15:10 -0600
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:15 +0100
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 11:07 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-05 11:34 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 10:00 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-10 18:14 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-10 17:33 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-11 12:52 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-11 14:01 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-12 16:39 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-12 17:53 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-13 17:29 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-13 15:39 -0600
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-14 09:57 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 13:24 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-14 20:51 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 22:59 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-13 09:20 +0000
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:58 -0500

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