Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?

From	Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject	Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Date	2018-10-13 18:09 +0000
Organization	NOYB
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Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2018-10-13 12:08, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > [...]
> > 
> >> I fail to see your problem. When I connect my phone via USB to this
> >> Win8.1 box, I see the phone as an external drive. I can access all the
> >> data. I see no reason to go below that into the OS. Why do you want to
> >> do that?
> > 
> >   Unless you have a rather old phone [1], you don't see your phone as a
> > *drive*, i.e. a thing which has a drive letter. You probably see your
> > phone in File Explorer and *only* in File Explorer. [...]
> 
> You're right, the drive letter is an alias. Should've sussed that, since 
> it doesn't have Eject as a menu item.
> 
> But I still don't see a problem. I can open the files from Explorer, one 
> at a time only of course, but since I don't see any point in messing 
> with the files directly _on the phone_, I don't see that as a serious 
> problem. If I do mess with the photo, and then Save the altered photo, 
> it's saved on my HDD, which from my POV is where it belongs.
> 
> Anyhow, if I really want to alter the picture on the phone, the photo 
> viewer has that facility built in. I've never used it. My photos are 
> good enough to share without tweaking. :-) BTW, the photo viewer has a 
> slew of other capabilities, the only one I use regularly is Share via email.
> 
> So while I see there's a functional issue here, I don't see a problem. 
> Maybe a puzzle, to solve just for the hell of it.

  Consider the backup example (note *example*, not the only scenario) I
mentioned (but you snipped).

  Say you have a phone with 80GB of storage (16 internal, 64 SD-card).

  If you want to backup that phone, you'll need to copy upto 80GB to
your Windows system, even if perhaps only 10% (8GB) has been changed.

  You also need upto 80GB of temporary space on your Windows system.

  Only *after* that upto 80GB copy, a (real) backup program can - try to
- figure out what has changed and backup only the 8GB to the backup
device (incremental backup).

  If OTOH, your phone was presented as a (real) Windows drive (or
Network Share), you could have made a backup of your Android
filesystems, the same way you do for any Windows file system.

  There are many, many other examples where *direct* file access is
desired or even needed/mandatory.

  FWIW, because all methods to get a (real) Windows drive or Network
Share to access an Android file system suck in major ways, I've given up
on this and have only solved *my* major issue - backup - by doing things
in the opposite direction, i.e. the Android system does the incremental
backup to a Network Share.

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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-11 19:43 +0000
  Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-11 19:48 +0000
    Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-11 20:19 +0000
  Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-12 08:11 +0200
    Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 13:50 +0000
      Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-12 18:39 +0200
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 17:58 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2018-10-12 13:11 -0500
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 23:05 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-12 15:14 -0400
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 23:13 +0000
              Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-12 19:40 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 00:40 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 10:16 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 14:24 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 11:08 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 15:28 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 11:46 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 16:09 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-12 23:15 +0200
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 23:17 +0000
              Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-13 09:04 +0200
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 13:54 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 14:32 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 15:25 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 15:54 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-14 01:00 +0000
                Advice for Arlen Holder MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2018-10-14 14:19 +0100
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Sam Hill <sam@example.com> - 2018-10-12 19:23 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-12 23:33 +0200
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2018-10-12 15:15 -0700
              Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 23:31 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 23:26 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2018-10-12 15:50 -0500
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 00:47 +0000
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Danny DeVito <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-12 20:59 -0400
              Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 02:08 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Danny DeVito <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-12 22:30 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 02:38 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-13 10:18 +0200
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 13:27 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-13 18:11 +0200
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 16:28 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-13 18:56 +0200
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 21:06 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-14 00:13 +0200
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 23:43 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-14 09:04 +0200
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-14 18:01 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-14 21:56 +0200
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2018-10-13 00:12 -0500
              Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 06:44 +0000
  Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-12 10:28 +0000
    Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? FredW <fredw@ninmule.invalid> - 2018-10-12 16:04 +0200
      Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 16:21 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-12 16:26 +0000
      Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 09:37 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 13:43 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 14:32 +0000
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 15:35 +0000
              Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 11:51 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 16:08 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 16:20 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 17:48 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 21:22 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2018-10-13 20:42 -0500
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-24 10:28 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-14 18:01 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2018-10-14 16:49 -0700
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-15 08:34 +0200
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Knarf Gewtools <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-15 14:23 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-10-15 13:28 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Knarf Gewtools Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-15 19:50 +0000
                [OT] HowTo: Ignore thread started by poster (was: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-17 17:58 +0000
                Re: [OT] HowTo: Ignore thread started by poster (was: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-11-05 06:42 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2018-10-13 20:35 -0500
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 13:47 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 18:09 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 14:32 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 18:49 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 16:20 -0400
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 23:29 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-14 17:50 +0000
                Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-14 23:54 -0400
    Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 01:58 +0000
      Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 03:27 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 04:44 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 10:07 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 13:53 +0000
            Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 14:20 +0000
      Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-10-13 10:02 +0200
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 10:01 +0000
          Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 13:36 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 13:27 +0000
  Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-14 01:30 +0000
    Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-16 00:19 +0000
      Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-16 12:26 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-16 14:00 +0000
  Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-19 23:38 +0000
    Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-20 14:37 +0000
      Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-21 20:26 +0000
        Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-22 19:54 +0000
  Re: From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?  Arlen_Holder <a%rle%20nh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-11-02 15:15 +0000

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