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Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate?

From	Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, rec.autos.driving, comp.mobile.android, rec.autos.tech
Subject	Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate?
Date	2026-09-19 04:51 +0100
Organization	https://www.Brian-Gregory.me.uk/
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On 19/09/2026 00:35, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Assuming no other factor was involved to cancel the arguments that people
> are claiming, if their hypothesis is cell phones cause accidents, then
> the accident rate should have skyrocketed at some point during the
> introduction of cellphones, right?

But you can't just assume no other factor.
Why would you think you could??

How can you possibly say that as mobile phones gradually became more 
popular other factors weren't, at the same time, reducing the accident rate?

You can't, well not unless you're stupid anyway.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-18 00:28 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-17 17:26 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-19 02:41 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-18 01:05 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 00:43 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-09-18 02:34 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-18 11:12 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-19 02:56 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-18 05:52 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-18 07:41 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-18 19:18 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-18 19:26 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2026-09-20 15:08 -0400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-09-21 10:23 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 01:49 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Old John <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-09-21 06:32 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 12:44 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2026-09-23 15:13 -0400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-24 09:45 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-25 00:42 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2026-09-25 07:41 -0400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-25 20:01 +0530
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 07:40 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-18 10:58 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-19 13:11 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2026-09-18 16:23 +0800
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-18 18:07 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-18 10:18 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-09-18 14:44 -0400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-19 00:11 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 00:08 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-19 13:11 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 13:05 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-18 23:03 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-09-19 10:08 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-19 02:35 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-19 04:51 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-19 07:02 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-19 09:28 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-20 22:58 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-20 15:05 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 12:28 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 07:09 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 12:20 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 21:00 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-22 14:31 +1300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 08:32 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-23 06:26 +1400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-23 06:47 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-23 21:35 +1000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-19 09:04 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-19 14:12 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-19 11:24 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-19 22:18 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-20 11:11 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-09-21 10:30 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-21 02:02 +0200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 03:18 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-19 19:51 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-23 07:38 +1000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-19 00:42 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-19 08:02 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-09-19 10:34 -0400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-20 23:13 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-19 14:57 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-20 23:27 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-20 15:42 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 00:13 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> - 2026-09-20 16:45 -0500
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 03:13 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-09-21 22:13 -0700
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-09-22 18:18 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-09-22 18:20 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-09-21 23:48 -0700
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-09-22 19:40 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2026-09-19 08:19 -0700
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-09-19 21:51 +0100
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-09-19 17:09 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-20 23:37 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-09-23 16:41 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-24 06:11 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-09-24 03:10 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-25 00:22 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-09-24 16:30 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-25 05:40 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 07:24 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-30 09:56 -0600
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 20:26 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-01 00:17 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 07:49 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-01 18:09 +0900
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 20:47 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 11:08 +0900
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Black Republican <black.republican@jury.duty> - 2026-10-01 06:26 -0400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 13:45 +0200
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Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-20 23:55 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-20 23:58 +0300
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Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 07:09 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 12:34 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-21 12:39 +0300
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 16:07 +0000
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Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-22 06:22 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-21 21:53 +0200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-22 08:59 +1200
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 21:15 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-22 13:26 +1200
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Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 08:44 +0000
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-23 06:25 +1400
Re: Why do people claim cellphone use increased the USA accident rate? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-23 17:40 +0000
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