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Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ...

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ...
Date 2017-01-08 22:35 +0000
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tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
> On 8 Jan 2017 17:18:17 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> > tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
> > [...]
> >> But if I try to do a file download of a .mobi file from an author's web
> >> page, or an .azw file from Amazon.com, using either Browser or Opera Mini,
> >> the Downloader balks, claiming the file is one it doesn't know how to
> >> handle. Means even the <user>@kindle.com email attachment way of sending a
> >> .mobi file to my phone's Kindle app fails, because the attachment never
> >> downloads. 
> > 
> >   What is this "the Downloader" thing you talk about?
> 
> Well, as an App on the All Apps screen, it's called Downloader, and has as
> icon a green square with a white underscored down-arrow displayed on it.

  Hmmm! I think I've seen that somewhere, but I've never used it, so I
wonder why you would ('have to') use such a thing. I.e. on a computer
you use a web-browser to download things, so why would you (need to)
something different on an Android device? More on this later.

> >   What you seem to describe would mean that you would not be able to
> > download a file, any file, which no (installed) app can 'Open', but
> > which would be quite useful. I.e. a configuration file, a file which is
> > *used* by and app, but is not *'Open'-ed* by an app.
> 
> Right. Happens quite a lot. These get listed, as failed downloads, with
> headings like
> 
> <Unknown> 
> attachments.postoffice.net
> Unsupported
> 
> or
> 
> <Unknown>
> s3.amazonaws.com
> Failed
> 
> Downloadable files include those of type .pdf, .docx, jpeg, .txt, .apk,
> .png, .xlsx, and .vcs, amongst others.
> 
> >   IOW, there are lots of files which are not 'Open'ed, but which are
> > used in some shape of form. Your 'Browser' would not be able to
> > *download* such a file? Why on earth not? It has no business thinking
> > the file needs to be 'Open'-ed!
> 
> These are questions I have no answer for, which is why I came here. Only
> "why not" rationale I can imagine is the antique Android version, 2.3.5.
> 
> >   Can you give an exmple (i.e. URL) of such a (freely downloadable)
> > file, which your 'Browser'/'Downloader' can't download?
> 
> Example, yes. URL: no. But any .mobi attachment to an email that I should
> be able to download, over their web UI, from my email provider -- and can
> successfully download using a laptop computer -- fails as above.

  When it fails, are you using the web UI (of your email provider) on
the phone? I.e. the web UI runs in a browser, *where* (on which device)
does that web-browser run? Does your phone have another web-browser
(than the 'Browser' thingie) which you can try? (If not, Firefox is
quite small and can be moved to SD-card.).

> > <drift>
> > 
> >> So I'm reduced to the very 20th century solution of sneaker-netting the
> >> microSD card out of the phone and into a computer to DL the desired
> >> eBook(s), and than back into the phone to move it/them over to the
> >> handset's memory where the Kindle app expects to find such things.
> > 
> >   Can't you USB-connect the Android device to your computer ...
> 
> Sure. Just requires being a step'n'fetchit for a USB cable instead of for
> the microSD card -- still "sneakernet" to my way of thinking.
> 
> > ... or use a
> > Wi-Fi connection with something such as ES File Explorer?
> 
> That's an idea that may be worth my exploring, but the details of its
> realization have thus far eluded me; I do have ES FileExplorer on the
> Android handset (though I hate its intrusive ads, the Free version), but
> the computers here all are set *not* to share *anything*.

  The computers do not have to (be set to) share anything. On the
computer, you use a FTP URL (ES File Explorer (on the phone) tells you
which URL), so your computer is a *client* and the phone is the server.
Might sound strange, but it actually makes perfect sense.

  After entering the FTP URL (something like <ftp://192.168.0.109:3721/>)
in your browser on the computer, you can view the phone's storage in a
Windows/File Explorer window. (If you use Internet Explorer, it will
tell you how to do that. Don't know about other browsers.)

> Thanks, though, for checking to see what help you might be able to offer.

  You're welcome.

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Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 20:27 -0500
  Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-01-07 08:53 +0000
    Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 14:45 -0500
      Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-01-07 22:12 +0000
        Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:15 -0500
          Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 17:18 +0000
            Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 16:44 -0500
              Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 22:35 +0000
                Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 23:47 -0500
                Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2017-01-09 18:50 +0100
                Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-10 04:08 -0500
            Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2017-01-09 23:55 +0000
              Re: Q.: "Open with" dialogues in Android ... tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-10 04:16 -0500

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