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Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability?

From VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability?
Date 2017-01-04 16:34 -0600
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Pete Cresswell <x@y.Invalid> wrote:

> Going through my rat's nest of micro-USB cables, I find 3 that do not
> seem to work with my new FastCharge 2.0 chargers.
> 
> The other 8 cables, no problem.... but these three... over-and-over
> again and they just don't seem to work.
> 
> Can somebody elucidate?

Hopefully you only intermittently do a fast charge, like your phone is
[near] dead and you immediately need to make several calls or a really
long call and need some charge on the battery.  Fast charging heats the
battery which reduces its lifespan.

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/58961/how-does-fast-charge-work
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/114340/will-plugging-the-samsung-fast-charger-into-a-outlet-rated-10w-2-1amp-slow-down

Are you using the blue-colored USB3 cables to do a fast charge?

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/159727-how-to-charge-your-smartphone-and-other-usb-devices-as-quickly-as-possible

According to that article, "It is through negotiation that your device
actually decides how much power it wants to draw."  The 1st article
mentions special cables in which the data lines are unconnected (in
trying to force a higher charge rate but by modifying the OS or using an
app to override the defaults).  There can be no negotiation without the
data signaling, so only the power connections are left in the cable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg4jF25AW4c

That talks about how an power-only signaling (AC sensing) USB cable is
created by modifying a regular USB cable.  It disables the data lines.
That means the device cannot negotiate to an appropriate charge rate and
thinks it is connected to an A/C charger that delivers a higher
amperage.  Of course, an A/C-only USB charging cable probably doesn't
bother using a cable with 4 wires (2 data + 2 power) but just 2 wires
(for power), or for economy of manufacture they do use a 4-wire cable
but simply do not solder the data wires to the data pins on the
connector.

Sorry, but "don't work" doesn't say what is happening.  Maybe you meant
that the problematic cables cannot be used for fast-rate charging but
they do work for low-rate charging.

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USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2017-01-04 17:09 -0500
  Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-04 16:34 -0600
    Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-04 16:49 -0600
    Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2017-01-04 19:13 -0500
      Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-04 21:55 -0600
        Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2017-01-05 10:45 -0500
    Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2017-01-04 19:19 -0500
      Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? AL <45364747@invalid.com> - 2017-01-04 18:40 -0700
      Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-04 21:28 -0600
        Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2017-01-05 10:48 -0500
  Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-01-05 12:25 +0000
    Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-05 09:49 -0500
      Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-01-05 17:12 +0000
        Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-05 19:53 +0000
          Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-01-05 22:15 +0000
        Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:53 -0500
          Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 23:14 -0800
            Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2017-01-06 16:29 -0500
            Re: USB Cables & FastCharge 2.0: Compatability? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 20:32 -0500

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