Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?
Date	2015-07-23 08:33 +1000
Message-ID	<d1ak1bFtdg3U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(2 earlier) <moj50e$e30$1@dont-email.me> <cfaad$55ae645c$43da7656$23251@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> <210720151412334681%nospam@nospam.invalid> <d17ndvF6v01U1@mid.individual.net> <i7buqa1ksq9lgmu9j55256dj6e4buusk1n@4ax.com>

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"Chris Blunt" <mail@nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:i7buqa1ksq9lgmu9j55256dj6e4buusk1n@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 06:12:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:210720151412334681%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>>> In article
>>> <cfaad$55ae645c$43da7656$23251@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, M.L.
>>> <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's interesting how they work it differently in Europe than in the
>>>> USA.
>>>>
>>>> In general, in the USA, to RECEIVE a phone call is usually free on
>>>> landlines, but on USA cellphones, it costs minutes to RECEIVE a call 
>>>> just
>>>> as it costs minutes to make a phone call.
>>
>>> which is how it should be
>>
>>Nope.
>>
>>> because it's using airtime.
>>
>>Any call uses airtime. What we are discussing is WHO pays for that 
>>airtime.
>>
>>It makes no sense at all for the receiver to pay
>>because they have no  control over who calls them.
>>
>>>> In Europe, it seems, in general, that to RECEIVE a phone call on
>>>> a local SIM card doesn't cost them anything on a cell phone.
>>
>>> however, there's a surcharge for calling a mobile phone versus a 
>>> landline.
>>
>>Not always.
>>
>>> why should a caller have to pay extra for something outside their 
>>> control?
>>
>>Because they chose to call a mobile.
>>
>>> anyone who wants to be called on a mobile device
>>> should pay for any associated fees, not the callers.
>>
>>Mindlessly silly.
>
> Exactly, and that's the way almost every country in the world apart
> from the US has chosen to do it. Even in the US the principle of
> "caller pays" was followed for decades when only landlines were
> available. Why should it suddenly be different just because the device
> uses a wireless connection instead of a physical line?

Yeah, it was done like that in the US because they don't have a
unique prefix range for mobile phone numbers, so you can't
work out whether you are calling a mobile or landline from
the number and so can get a surprise with the cost of the
call when it is actually a mobile you call. Compounded by
the other problem close to unique to the US that local
calls with landline were often free, something you also
didn't see in much of the rest of the world at the time
that mobiles started to be seen.

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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2015-07-22 13:48 +0800
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 09:55 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:33 -0400
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:18 +1000
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:33 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:22 +0000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:15 +1000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:12 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-23 17:55 +0000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 14:17 +1000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-26 18:45 +0000
              Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:08 +1000
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:12 +1000
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 08:33 +1000
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 03:13 -0400

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