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Re: whatsapp interoperability

From Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: whatsapp interoperability
Date 2024-09-11 20:41 +0100
Organization Frantic
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Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> writes:

> On 11.09.24 18:13, s|b wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:15:46 +0100, Richmond wrote:
>> 
>>> Whatsapp uses the Signal protocol. How did they make open source
>>> into closed source? "The Signal Protocol is licensed under the GNU
>>> Affero General Public License (AGPLv3). This license requires that
>>> the complete source code of the licensed work and any modifications
>>> be made available under the same license."
>> 
>> I don't know the details, but someone explained it like this:
>> 
>> A Signal user sends a message to a WA user. The encryption is:
>> 
>> aZ*2
>> 
>> When it reaches the servers at WA something gets added:
>> 
>> aZ*2[Vy*3]
>> 
>> This way data could be gathered by Meta. Meta doesn't give access to
>> Signal to check if something like this doesn't happen.
>> 
>> I don't know if I'm explaining correctly, but if Signal doesn't want
>> to cooperate they must have a damn good reason.
>
> No: Signal has absolutely no intention to break their encryption which
> is a condition for interoperability. Would Signal do that I would drop
> it immediately. Signal uses an end-to-end-encryption which WA does not
> really. Alternative suppliers like Signal, Threema, iMsg or Telegram
> would commit immediate suicide if they would follow that route.

How do you know android isn't stealing your data?

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whatsapp interoperability Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-09-06 21:22 +0100
  Re: whatsapp interoperability Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-06 20:59 +0000
    Re: whatsapp interoperability Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-09-08 17:02 +0100
  Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-07 22:33 +0200
    Re: whatsapp interoperability Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-09-07 21:39 +0100
      Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-09 20:37 +0200
        Re: whatsapp interoperability Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-09-10 14:35 +0200
          Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-10 17:47 +0200
            Re: whatsapp interoperability Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-10 15:58 +0000
              Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-10 18:36 +0200
            Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-10 18:21 +0200
              Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-11 18:07 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-11 18:49 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-14 17:43 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-14 20:50 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-19 11:36 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-19 21:32 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-09-19 20:47 +0100
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-20 13:07 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-20 14:30 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-20 20:25 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-20 21:42 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-20 22:38 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-21 09:39 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-09-21 12:24 +0000
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-21 15:02 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 13:27 +0000
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-09-21 18:03 +0000
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-21 09:39 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-21 13:39 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-21 15:23 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-09-21 18:04 +0000
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 22:53 +0000
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 13:21 +0000
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-19 10:44 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-09-12 13:11 +0100
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-12 16:24 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-14 17:44 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-09-15 15:56 +0100
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-19 11:31 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-09-19 21:35 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-19 23:05 +0200
        Re: whatsapp interoperability Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-09-11 11:15 +0100
          Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-11 18:13 +0200
            Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-11 18:55 +0200
              Re: whatsapp interoperability Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-09-11 20:41 +0100
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-12 06:43 +0200
            Re: whatsapp interoperability Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-09-11 20:26 +0100
              Re: whatsapp interoperability "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-09-14 17:48 +0200
                Re: whatsapp interoperability Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-09-19 11:38 +0200
  Re: whatsapp interoperability Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-09-21 14:28 +0100

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