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Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts?

From Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
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Subject Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts?
Organization http://www.panic.com/unison/
Date 2015-08-09 14:48 -0700

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On 2015-08-09 21:29:03 +0000, Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> said:

> On 8/9/2015 4:09 PM, Savageduck wrote:
>> On 2015-08-09 15:37:08 +0000, Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> said:
>>> On 8/8/2015 5:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
>>>> On 2015-08-08 20:52:54 +0000, Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> said:
>>>>> On 8/8/2015 9:03 AM, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>>>> Just curious what your take is on the Verizon response to
>>>>>> T-Mobile by dropping contracts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/2015/08/verizon-simple-cell-phone-plan/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This article doesn't show what a family plan costs, but, it
>>>>>> talks about some very confusing catches in the new plans which
>>>>>> start August 13th.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Those of you with Verizon - is this really the vastly needed
>>>>>> move to simplification & no contracts - or just marketing bull?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (I'm on T-Mobile, where I haven't had a contract in years, nor
>>>>>> do I pay them for a phone, nor do I every pay when I go over
>>>>>> my data limit - it just slows down.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Been with Verizon since day one and IMO, I'm seeing more marketing
>>>>> bull, as with most, if not all major corporations with deep pocket
>>>>> CEOs.
>>>>> There will always be hidden costs to keep them in the game.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One issue which pisses me off is the Hot Spot feature.
>>>> 
>>>> Why? Are you being charged to use your Verizon phone as a Hot Spot?
>>> 
>>> Yes.
>> 
>> Hmmm...????
>> 
>>>> I have used Verizon starting in the days when they were still GTE then
>>>> GTE Mobile with my Nokia brick.
>>>> 
>>>> I regularly use my iPhone as a Hot Spot to provide an LTE 4G pipeline
>>>> for my iPad, all without issue and without additional charge from
>>>> Verizon.
>>>> 
>>>>> The fact they want to charge me for using a device through my phone
>>>>> simply proves their greed. Businesses nickle and dime us to death but
>>>>> the total benefits their pockets.
>>>> 
>>>> That has not been my experience with Verizon.
>>> 
>>> Hmm, I've spoken to two reps about the issue and both say they
>>> understand why I'm mad about it and try to offer me some better plan
>>> which contains Hot Spot feature, but for more money. I ask them again
>>> why I should pay a single cent over my current plan to use my data,
>>> which I already pay for. How I use it is my concern and illustrate the
>>> example of buying a 5 gallon can of gas and they telling me I can only
>>> use it in one vehicle.
>> 
>> Silly analogy.
>> Here the analogy would be having bought a car which now sits in your
>> garage, and then bitching because the gas to run the car wasn't included
>> in the original deal.
>> 
>> It seems to me that a Hot Spot is a feature you want, but are not
>> prepared to pay for. Especially after you have sticker shock after using
>> it casually.
> 
> It's a feature which my phone (paid for) already contains.

So is an empty gas tank.

> It's a feature which simply allows another device to connect with the 
> phone. Why should I pay for data I already pay for? If they were smart, 
> it wouldn't be an added cost feature and simply allow it because more 
> people would most likely exceed their data limit and they'd be 
> increasing revenue. I don't even touch .05% of my data though I'm 
> willing to bet it would increase if I used hot spot.

Agreed. However, it is their ball. This is just another case of supply 
and demand You are trying to back date a purchase to satisfy your 
demand.
> 
> The analogy is spot on. My gas to use as I wish. My data to use as I 
> wish. It's paid for, it's mine.

Not quite. You don't have any gas. They do, but you have a useless 
parked car with an empty gas tank. However, you feel you are entitled 
to the gas to run the car because when you bought it, it had a gas tank.
In much the same way your phone had a Hot Spot feature provided by the 
phone manufacturer, which is useless without the "gas" bought from the 
service provider.
> 
>> 
>>> Anyway, since there are plans which enable the hot spot feature,
>>> perhaps it's just part of your plan.
>> 
>> Perhaps.
>> I am paying $153/month for two iPhones and 7GB of data. There is no
>> mention of the Hot Spot feature being included, but apparantly it
>> probably is.
>> 
>>> I've had my same plan for years and they want me to upgrade to the
>>> "everything plan" which contains the hot spot feature.
>> 
>> If you need it...
> 
> I don't. I rarely use my data, I rarely use my SMS text (most friends 
> and family have iPhones) and I rarely use my minutes. It would be nice 
> to use hot spot but I don't need it.

In that case, sit back and relax.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com> - 2015-08-08 13:03 +0000
  Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere> - 2015-08-08 09:35 -0400
    Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 13:09 -0700
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          Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 14:20 +1000
            Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-09 12:56 -0700
              Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-09 13:13 -0700
                Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? I R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-11 21:39 +0000
  Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:52 -0400
    Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0700
      Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-08 22:23 +0000
        Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 11:39 -0400
          Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-09 10:53 -0500
            Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 13:55 -0400
              Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-09 15:57 -0500
              Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 17:29 -0400
            Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 17:29 -0400
          Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 16:06 +0000
            Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 17:20 -0400
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                Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 18:18 -0400
      Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 11:37 -0400
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          Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 17:29 -0400
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            Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:36 +0200
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            Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-09 14:48 -0700
              Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 18:20 -0400
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    Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com> - 2015-08-14 04:55 +0000
      Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com> - 2015-08-14 09:01 -0500
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  Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-08-10 10:04 -0400
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  Re: What's your take on the new Verizon plan to drop contracts? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-10 09:25 -0500
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