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Re: Surveillance Risk: Apple's WiFi-Based Positioning System

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Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote in
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> Alan Browne wrote on Thu, 30 May 2024 19:18:55 -0400 :
> 
>> The "general" case is that it is absolutely not an Apple issue. 
>> SSID/BSSID's are OPENLY AND LOUDLY BROADCAST WORLDIWDE IN THE
>> BILLIONS. 

You're 50% correct.  SSID/BSSID's are OPENLY AND LOUDLY BROADCAST = 50%

it is absolutely not an Apple issue. = 0%

> The fact is you're defending Apple's holes, to the death, no matter
> what. 
> 
> Every desperate excuse you make for the flaws in Apple's
> implementation show you not understand what only Apple does that's
> different here. 
> 
> Worse, you were not aware the outward facing MAC address cannot be
> cloned (in almost all routers and particularly in the tested travel
> routers). 
> 
> And you were not aware that the SSID is meaningless for this exploit,
> other than the workaround that Apple suggested (of appending _nomac to
> the SSID). 
> 
> Furthermore, you're still not aware that a "hidden broadcast" has been
> a feature of nearly every router since the dawn of Wi-Fi, where the
> mere act of clicking that checkbox prevents the BSSID from being
> *uploaded* to the Google and Apple and Mozilla and Wigle databases, by
> default. (See notes in the sig, given the Apple religious zealots
> don't understand this issue). 

+1

> While you're frantically desperate to fabricate excuses for Apple's
> vulnerabilities, you don't ever show any understanding of them.
> 
> Notes in the sig given Apple religious zealots don't understand
> anything. 

In years past when waiting for flights in an airport, Apple products were 
a favorite target for two reasons.  Most Apple users are clueless about 
security, and there is a flaw that exists to this day permitting rogue Wi-
Fi access.  It's not readily apparent, but it exists.     

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Surveillance Risk: Apple's WiFi-Based Positioning System Charlie <charlie@nospam.com> - 2024-05-28 01:10 -0600
  Re: Surveillance Risk: Apple's WiFi-Based Positioning System Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> - 2024-05-28 17:38 -0400
    Re: Surveillance Risk: Apple's WiFi-Based Positioning System Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> - 2024-05-31 14:53 -0400
  Re: Surveillance Risk: Apple's WiFi-Based Positioning System Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-31 17:38 +0000
    Re: Surveillance Risk: Apple's WiFi-Based Positioning System anonymous <anon@anon.com> - 2024-06-01 10:58 +0200

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