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| Started by | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| First post | 2014-06-19 13:00 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-03-27 12:12 -0400 |
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Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-19 13:00 +0000
Re: Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-19 11:53 -0700
Re: Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-20 09:32 +0000
Re: Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-06-20 09:52 +0000
Re: Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-06-21 02:06 +0100
Re: Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-06-21 14:23 +0300
Re: Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape "voyager529" <voyager529@live.com> - 2015-03-27 12:12 -0400
| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-19 13:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Apple does to Swiftkey what Microsoft did to Netscape |
| Message-ID | <20140619130008.c4234176.rsw@therandymon.com> |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/11/swiftkey_were_not_afraid_of_the_big_bad_apple/ //--clip The British creators of a smart-typing app called SwiftKey have denied the decision to give it away for free was inspired by Apple's announcement of its own keyboard software. London-based SwiftKey has cut the cost of its app from £1.49 to nothing, relying on a freemium model to help bring home the bacon. Apple recently threw developers like SwiftKey a bone, announcing it would allow the sale of keyboard programmes through the app store. This looked like a great development for the London firm, which currently only sells its app for Android. But this chink of hope was soon stopped shut after the fruity firm said it would be bundling its own free typing gizmo Quicktype with iOS8. So even though Swiftkey would be able to flog its wares on the app store, Apple will be offering a very similar service totally free of charge. //--clip Shitty move, Apple, shitty move. -- RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-19 11:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lnvbj4$9ad$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3758 |
On 2014-06-19 13:00:08 +0000, RS Wood said: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/11/swiftkey_were_not_afraid_of_the_big_bad_apple/ > > > //--clip > The British creators of a smart-typing app called SwiftKey have denied > the decision to give it away for free was inspired by Apple's > announcement of its own keyboard software. > > London-based SwiftKey has cut the cost of its app from £1.49 to > nothing, relying on a freemium model to help bring home the bacon. > > Apple recently threw developers like SwiftKey a bone, announcing it > would allow the sale of keyboard programmes through the app store. This > looked like a great development for the London firm, which currently > only sells its app for Android. > > But this chink of hope was soon stopped shut after the fruity firm said > it would be bundling its own free typing gizmo Quicktype with iOS8. So > even though Swiftkey would be able to flog its wares on the app store, > Apple will be offering a very similar service totally free of > charge.//--clip > > Shitty move, Apple, shitty move. Is it the same exact thing here or are they different? Apple bundles a text editor with iOS too, but this hasn't stopped many companies from offering their own. Ditto PDF readers.
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| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-20 09:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20140620093224.6ca70bd7.rsw@therandymon.com> |
| In reply to | #3762 |
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:53:25 -0700 Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: > > But this chink of hope was soon stopped shut after the fruity firm said > > it would be bundling its own free typing gizmo Quicktype with iOS8. So > > even though Swiftkey would be able to flog its wares on the app store, > > Apple will be offering a very similar service totally free of > > charge.//--clip > > > > Shitty move, Apple, shitty move. > > Is it the same exact thing here or are they different? Apple bundles a > text editor with iOS too, but this hasn't stopped many companies from > offering their own. Ditto PDF readers. To me, they seem like the same thing. Text editors, PDF readers are applications some will use and some will not, whereas a keyboard mechanism is essential. It seems Swiftkey is doomed since Apple is offering essentially the same functionality via their own code, which comes pre-installed. Why bother to download/pay for Swiftkey? To me, that's like IE coming pre-installed on Win95: why bother downloading/buying a different browser?
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-06-20 09:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c0iejlFsltjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3773 |
On 2014-06-20, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote: > Why bother to download/pay for Swiftkey? To me, > that's like IE coming pre-installed on Win95: why bother > downloading/buying a different browser? Because IE sucks? -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 25th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3180 "I do not believe in revealed religion — I will have nothing to do with your immortality; we are miserable enough in this life, without speculating on another." Lord Byron, 1778-1824, letter to Rev. Francis Hodgson, 1811
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| From | Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-21 02:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sul9q9lac56cho8o41aajobuvuln2od9oe@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #3773 |
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:32:24 +0000, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote: >On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:53:25 -0700 >Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > But this chink of hope was soon stopped shut after the fruity firm said >> > it would be bundling its own free typing gizmo Quicktype with iOS8. So >> > even though Swiftkey would be able to flog its wares on the app store, >> > Apple will be offering a very similar service totally free of >> > charge.//--clip >> > >> > Shitty move, Apple, shitty move. >> >> Is it the same exact thing here or are they different? Apple bundles a >> text editor with iOS too, but this hasn't stopped many companies from >> offering their own. Ditto PDF readers. > > >To me, they seem like the same thing. Text editors, PDF readers are >applications some will use and some will not, whereas a keyboard >mechanism is essential. It seems Swiftkey is doomed since Apple is >offering essentially the same functionality via their own code, which >comes pre-installed. Why bother to download/pay for Swiftkey? To me, >that's like IE coming pre-installed on Win95: why bother >downloading/buying a different browser? Maybe because most users were ignorant of the fact that IE had 75 known security issues of which only 25 had been addressed despite some of the remaining issues being several years old? For those interested in the quality of the browser regarding security issues, they could have just taken their cue from the Pentagon in recommending that all their staff stop using IE and use a free alternative instead such as Firefox (which only had 25 security issues of which 5 remained outstanding) or, even better, they could have looked at Opera where the figures were zero and zero. Apparently Opera didn't qualify as a "Free Web Browser", not even the free version on account of its almost invisible (by today's adware standards) banner ad. Opera eventually saw the error of their ways but it was too little too late and the damage had already been done. -- J B Good
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| From | Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> |
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| Date | 2014-06-21 14:23 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <vg37g4atsk9.fsf@coffee.modeemi.fi> |
| In reply to | #3773 |
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes: > It seems Swiftkey is doomed since Apple is offering essentially the > same functionality via their own code, which comes pre-installed. Why > bother to download/pay for Swiftkey? To me, that's like IE coming > pre-installed on Win95: why bother downloading/buying a different > browser? Well, Google did the same basically didn't they? They added prediction and swiping to the stock Android keyboard and even made it a freebie in the Play store so you can run it on any Android device. Swiftkey still has value on Android as it syncs personal dictionaries between devices and has multi language support on predictions.
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| From | "voyager529" <voyager529@live.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-27 12:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <55158197$0$1776$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #3762 |
On 6/19/2014 2:53:22 PM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > On 2014-06-19 13:00:08 +0000, RS Wood said: > >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/11/swiftkey_were_not_afraid_of_the_big_bad_apple/> >> >> //--clip >> The British creators of a smart-typing app called SwiftKey have denied >> the decision to give it away for free was inspired by Apple's >> announcement of its own keyboard software. >> >> London-based SwiftKey has cut the cost of its app from Ł1.49 to >> nothing, relying on a freemium model to help bring home the bacon. >> >> Apple recently threw developers like SwiftKey a bone, announcing it >> would allow the sale of keyboard programmes through the app store. This >> looked like a great development for the London firm, which currently >> only sells its app for Android. >> >> But this chink of hope was soon stopped shut after the fruity firm said >> it would be bundling its own free typing gizmo Quicktype with iOS8. So >> even though Swiftkey would be able to flog its wares on the app store, >> Apple will be offering a very similar service totally free of >> charge.//--clip >> >> Shitty move, Apple, shitty move. > > Is it the same exact thing here or are they different? Apple bundles a > text editor with iOS too, but this hasn't stopped many companies from > offering their own. Ditto PDF readers. > > This analogy would be more apt if Netscape was the number one purchased app on another OS that had a respectable market share. Conversely, Google has had their own swiftkey-style functionality in the stock keyboard; Samsung and HTC have offered something similar in /their/ stock keyboards. Swiftkey also 'borrowed' the gesture typing feature from Swype, which was the first (that I'm aware of) product of its kind back in the Windows Mobile 6.5 days...yet somehow, both companies manage to sell their keyboards for a few bucks, with a few IAPs for good measure, and still make a living, despite this basically becoming default behavior on whatever mobile device that's purchased. I have faith that the pie is big enough for everyone to have a worthwhile slice.
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