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Hack allows control of ATM by SMS

Started byRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
First post2014-03-25 09:10 +0000
Last post2014-03-25 14:58 +0000
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  Hack allows control of ATM by SMS RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-25 09:10 +0000
    Re: Hack allows control of ATM by SMS Morten Nygaard Åsnes <mnaasnes@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:18 +0100
      Re: Hack allows control of ATM by SMS Tim+ <timdownie2003@nospampleaseyahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-25 10:33 +0000
        Re: Hack allows control of ATM by SMS RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-25 14:58 +0000

#1968 — Hack allows control of ATM by SMS

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-03-25 09:10 +0000
SubjectHack allows control of ATM by SMS
Message-ID<lgrh6v$lsc$1@solani.org>
From the «say ATM Machine and I'll shoot» department:
Title: ATM malware, controlled by a text message, spews cash
Author: IDGNS staff
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:32:25 -0400
Link: http://www.itworld.com/security/411392/atm-malware-controlled-text-message-spews-cash

A group of enterprising cybercriminals have figured out how to get cash from
a certain type of ATM -- by text message.

read more[1]

Links:
[1]: http://www.itworld.com/security/411392/atm-malware-controlled-text-message-spews-cash (link)

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#1969

FromMorten Nygaard Åsnes <mnaasnes@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-25 10:18 +0100
Message-ID<slrnlj2ier.uu9.mnaasnes@teamroboto.com>
In reply to#1968
On 2014-03-25, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> From the «say ATM Machine and I'll shoot» department:
> Title: ATM malware, controlled by a text message, spews cash
> Author: IDGNS staff
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:32:25 -0400
> Link: http://www.itworld.com/security/411392/atm-malware-controlled-text-message-spews-cash
>
> A group of enterprising cybercriminals have figured out how to get cash from
> a certain type of ATM -- by text message.
>
> read more[1]
>
> Links:
> [1]: http://www.itworld.com/security/411392/atm-malware-controlled-text-message-spews-cash (link)

So for this to work, they have to first have physical access to the ATM, and
install some malware on it? 

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#1970

FromTim+ <timdownie2003@nospampleaseyahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-03-25 10:33 +0000
Message-ID<1111405131417436356.297175timdownie2003-nospampleaseyahoo.co.uk@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#1969
Morten Nygaard Åsnes <mnaasnes@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-03-25, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> From the «say ATM Machine and I'll shoot» department:
>> Title: ATM malware, controlled by a text message, spews cash
>> Author: IDGNS staff
>> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:32:25 -0400
>> Link:
>> http://www.itworld.com/security/411392/atm-malware-controlled-text-message-spews-cash
>> 
>> A group of enterprising cybercriminals have figured out how to get cash from
>> a certain type of ATM -- by text message.
>> 
>> read more[1]
>> 
>> Links:
>> [1]:
>> http://www.itworld.com/security/411392/atm-malware-controlled-text-message-spews-
>> ash (link)
> 
> So for this to work, they have to first have physical access to the ATM, and
> install some malware on it? 

And wire in a phone handset.

Tim

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#1975

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-03-25 14:58 +0000
Message-ID<lgs5ib$6b0$1@solani.org>
In reply to#1970
On 2014-03-25, Tim+ <timdownie2003@nospampleaseyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Morten Nygaard Åsnes <mnaasnes@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-25, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>> From the «say ATM Machine and I'll shoot» department: Title: ATM
>>> malware, controlled by a text message, spews cash Author: IDGNS
>>> staff Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:32:25 -0400 Link:
>>> 
>>> A group of enterprising cybercriminals have figured out how to get
>>> cash from a certain type of ATM -- by text message.
>>> 
>>> read more[1]
>>> 
>>> Links: [1]:
>> 
>> So for this to work, they have to first have physical access to the
>> ATM, and install some malware on it? 
>
> And wire in a phone handset.
>
> Tim

I can appreciate the skepticism, but it's not so outlandish as that.
Physical access to an ATM is obligatory - that's how they work.  And
unless they're closely monitored by surveillance cameras and teams that
actually perform surveillance, there's a real chance crooks can mess
with the equipment.  See Krebson [1] for example, or Snopes [2].

I've been in at least one ATM booth where it was clear people had been
taking intervenous drugs.  Cameras disabled? Nobody watching? Nobody
cares?  I couldn't say.  But if crooks have the time and freedom to
install skimmer hardware over an ATM keypad, they probably have the same
time and freedom to attach a device that can receive SMSes.

[1] http://krebsonsecurity.com/all-about-skimmers/ [2]
http://www.snopes.com/fraud/atm/atmcamera.asp

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