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Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway.

Started by"(p)ing^~dvox:::::::::z" <dvox@hotbot.com>
First post2019-02-15 04:21 +0000
Last post2019-04-20 08:54 +0000
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  Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. "(p)ing^~dvox:::::::::z" <dvox@hotbot.com> - 2019-02-15 04:21 +0000
    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. whodunit <whodunit@notme.org> - 2019-03-08 20:39 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-03-08 21:18 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-10 22:48 -0400
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. nunnurbiz <whodunit@notme.org> - 2019-03-12 02:10 +0000
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-12 11:27 +0000
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-03-12 09:42 -0400
                Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-12 14:26 +0000
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-03-12 11:39 +0000
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2019-03-15 09:17 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-03-08 21:32 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-03-09 02:15 +0000
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-03-09 09:14 +0000
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-09 09:41 +0000
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-03-13 10:17 -0400
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2019-03-13 16:29 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-03-08 21:38 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-03-08 23:51 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-08 23:40 -0500
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-09 12:16 +0000
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-10 20:38 -0400
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-03-11 03:53 +0000
                Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2019-03-11 06:16 +0000
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-11 10:38 +0000
                Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-03-11 20:55 +0000
                  Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-11 22:07 +0000
                    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-03-12 00:00 +0000
                      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-12 11:26 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. nunnurbiz <whodunit@notme.org> - 2019-03-12 02:08 +0000
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-03-12 21:53 +0000
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. nunnurbiz <whodunit@notme.org> - 2019-03-13 19:59 +0000
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-03-13 20:17 +0000
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-03-13 22:12 +0000
                Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-03-14 20:36 +0000
                  Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-15 08:51 -0400
                    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com> - 2019-03-15 17:08 -0400
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2019-03-14 21:23 +0000
    Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. NUNURBIZ <NUNURBIZ@YAHOO.COM> - 2019-04-19 02:00 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-19 10:53 +0000
        Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. tom <tom@0.0.0.0> - 2019-04-28 09:55 -0700
          Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-28 17:48 +0000
            Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-04-29 16:42 -0400
              Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-04-29 23:19 +0000
      Re: Nothing Can Stop Google. DuckDuckGo Is Trying Anyway. RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-04-20 08:54 +0000

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#17887

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2019-04-28 17:48 +0000
Message-ID<gim7bnFn5p4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17886
On 2019-04-28, tom <tom@0.0.0.0> wrote:
> On 19 Apr 2019 10:53:15 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2019-04-19, NUNURBIZ <NUNURBIZ@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>> > "(p)ing^~dvox:::::::::z" <dvox@hotbot.com> wrote in
>> > news:q45eo5$4hi$2@neodomea5yrhcabc.onion: 
>> 
>> [354 lines snipped]
>> 
>> >> 
>> >
>> > duckduck sucks, slow as shit, makes you visit "non-javascript"
>> > webpage when not using JS, another slow up. Bad results cannot do
>> > advanced boolean syntax. Crap search engine at least 5 others that
>> > are not google and better than duck.
>> 
>> Get your delete key fixed, bozo.
>> 
>> 
>
> Try wiby.me

Utter shit.


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#17890

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2019-04-29 16:42 -0400
Message-ID<674kpf-t79.ln1@rasp.therandymon.com>
In reply to#17887
On 2019-04-28, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2019-04-28, tom <tom@0.0.0.0> wrote:
>> Try wiby.me
>
> Utter shit.
 
From https://wiby.me/about/

//--clip
Why Wiby?

Search engines like Google are indispensable, able to find answers to
all of your technical questions; but along the way, the fun of web
surfing was lost. In the early days of the web, pages were made
primarily by hobbyists, academics, and computer savvy people about
subjects they were interested in. Later on, the web became saturated
with commercial pages that overcrowded everything else. All the
personalized websites are hidden among a pile of commercial pages.
Google isn't great at finding those gems, its focus is on finding
answers to technical questions, and it works well; but finding things
you didn't know you wanted to know, which was the real joy of web
surfing, no longer happens. In addition, many pages today are created
using bloated scripts that add slick cosmetic features in order to mask
the lack of content available on them. Those pages contribute to the
blandness of today's web. 

The Wiby search engine is building a web of pages as it was in the
earlier days of the internet. In addition, Wiby helps vintage computers
to continue browsing the web, as page results are more suitable for
their performance.
//--clip

They bill themselves as "search engine for classic websites" which
sounds a bit limited, nostalgic even.  It also smacks of hand curation.

From ResearchBuzz:
https://researchbuzz.me/2017/10/30/step-back-to-vintage-internet-with-new-search-engine-wiby/

//--clip
If you’d like to take a step back in Internet time, to when Web pages were smaller and less advanced, check out Wiby.me, a search engine that launched at the beginning of October. It’s designed to find only smaller Web pages (which usually means older Web pages.)

Even its front page will remind you of Google’s earlier, spartan beginnings. There’s a search box and a “surprise me” link, with two links on the right for submitting a page and settings.

...

But a lot of the time it does mean older Web pages, and a Web you don’t
see as much anymore; people building Web sites for things they love and
find interesting, not for sites they want to game to the top of Google
results for tons of ad revenue. Not for selling items they’re getting
dropshipped from Alibaba. Stuff they love and want to share.

...

It became clear to me after playing with this search engine for a bit
that it was not going to go on my “useful search engine” shelf. It was
not going to become part of my search tool box that I could go to when I
had a tricky search problem.

But this is a heck of a resource to use when you’re just poking around,
want a better sense of what the Internet used to be like, or you want to
surface things you’d be unlikely to find nowadays. How else would I come
across a page from 2001 about 14-year-old Zack and his pet corn snakes?
When would I have noticed the online glass museum, via its page on glass
fishing floats? How would I have found that article about Heraclitus of
Ephesos?

I cannot recommend Wiby as a tool for serious search. I can, however,
recommend it as a tool for nostalgia, exploring, and creativity. Have
fun.
//--clip

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#17891

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2019-04-29 23:19 +0000
Message-ID<qa80q4$1gmf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#17890
In comp.misc RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2019-04-28, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2019-04-28, tom <tom@0.0.0.0> wrote:
>>> Try wiby.me
>>
>> Utter shit.
> 
> They bill themselves as "search engine for classic websites" which
> sounds a bit limited, nostalgic even.  It also smacks of hand curation.

Something like DMOZ (now Curlie), but in a search engine format, and
with a bias against commercial websites.

I gave it a breif look when the link was posted and my first search
went to a server error, so I went away with my tail between my legs.
That must have just been a breif problem though because it seems to
work fine now. Frankly, I quite like it. Sure it's useless for really
finding what you're looking for, but as they state (and I've now
snipped, oh well), it seems good for stumbling upon things. eg. with
some only very broadly related searches I've found a blog from
someone who built their own computer from 7400 series logic in 2008,
a detailed blog about old IBM hardware (http://www.righto.com/), and
"Tales of the Four Wheel Cowboy" a somewhat eccentric tribute page
to some American musician who I've never heard of.

Mind you I'm pretty well served already for strange obscure pages
to look at when I have time to kill, by way of my various bookmarks
to "look at properly sometime" (the IBM hardware blog has been
added). Directories of links, or pages hosted by a certain provider
or ISP, can be great fun to work through.

Yesterday I had an hour to kill and decided to check out an old blog
that I'd noticed in my bookmarks earlier and discovered that the
author had ended it, but there were plenty of interesting posts that
I'd either never read or forgotten. So I went to visit it but missed
and clicked on a link to "LoseThos 64-Bit Operating System", which
took me to the site of some fashion store. But what had happened to
this OS which I had no memory of ever hearing about but obviously
once thought was worthy of a bookmark? Calling the Wayback Machine
into action, I worked my way back through the history of expired
domain pages until I found a page declaring that LoseThos was now
TempleOS, and at www.templeos.org). So away I go and find a fairly
spartin page with a detailed logo, a link to an ISO, and a note at
the bottom that the author had died and suggesting that his
"supporters" donate towards mental health. So what was this
mysterious OS, and what happened to it's creator? Time to put Duck
Duck Go onto the case, and surprisingly enough (for the sort of
software that I bookmark) TempleOS has a detailed Wikipedia page
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS) describing it as a
"biblical-themed lightweight operating system". Curiosity now lead
me through the whole article about the OS, and on to the page about
its creator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_A._Davis). So I'm
now well versed on the rather tragic tale of Terry A. Davis and
TempleOS (though I haven't burnt that ISO to a CD yet), and the hour
was well filled.

I guess that's the sort of journey that Wiby might take you on
(especially since I just sumbitted www.templeos.org).

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#17859

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2019-04-20 08:54 +0000
Message-ID<q9emnb$d64$1@solani.org>
In reply to#17851
On 2019-04-19, NUNURBIZ <NUNURBIZ@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> "(p)ing^~dvox:::::::::z" <dvox@hotbot.com> wrote in
> duckduck sucks, slow as shit, makes you visit "non-javascript" webpage 
> when not using JS, another slow up. Bad results cannot do advanced 
> boolean syntax. Crap search engine at least 5 others that are not google 
> and better than duck.
 
... NONE of which you list.  Yawn. The irony is, this is a crowd that
might be curious to at least look into a superior alternative.  Your
failure to mention any shows you're more interested in just being an
asshat.  I'll give you one more opportunity to avoid my killfile: name
some and cite why you think they're superior.

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