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68000 Linux on a solderless breadboard

Started byRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
First post2015-06-14 05:41 +0000
Last post2015-06-14 16:54 +0100
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  68000 Linux on a solderless breadboard RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-14 05:41 +0000
    Re: 68000 Linux on a solderless breadboard Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-06-14 22:45 +1000
      Re: 68000 Linux on a solderless breadboard Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-06-14 10:46 -0400
        Re: 68000 Linux on a solderless breadboard Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-06-14 16:54 +0100

#7900 — 68000 Linux on a solderless breadboard

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2015-06-14 05:41 +0000
Subject68000 Linux on a solderless breadboard
Message-ID<mlj45r$eip$1@solani.org>
From the «bring your own butter and jam» department:
Title: 68 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard
Author:
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:43:49 -0400
Link: http://www.bigmessowires.com/2014/11/17/68-katy-68000-linux-on-a-solderless-breadboard

Comments[1]

Links:
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9712793 (link)


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#7905

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2015-06-14 22:45 +1000
Message-ID<cu5batFqdekU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7900
On 14/06/2015 3:41 PM, RS Wood wrote:
>  From the «bring your own butter and jam» department:
> Title: 68 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard
> Author:
> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:43:49 -0400
> Link: http://www.bigmessowires.com/2014/11/17/68-katy-68000-linux-on-a-solderless-breadboard
>
> Comments[1]
>
> Links:
> [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9712793 (link)
>
>
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Though some things plugged into the breadboard have solder on them. In 
extremis, one could have the entire thing on a soldered PCB, and just 
have the power supply go into the breadboard, so it's only a matter of 
degree.

All power to him though - I've never managed to get anything like that 
many breadboard connections to work at the same time. My limit's 
probably about 10, and that's if I'm lucky.

Sylvia.

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#7907

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-06-14 10:46 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1506141040300.30864@darkstar.example.org>
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Sylvia Else wrote:

> On 14/06/2015 3:41 PM, RS Wood wrote:
>>  From the «bring your own butter and jam» department:
>> Title: 68 Katy – 68000 Linux on a Solderless Breadboard
>> Author:
>> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:43:49 -0400
>> Link: 
>> http://www.bigmessowires.com/2014/11/17/68-katy-68000-linux-on-a-solderless-breadboard
>> 
>> Comments[1]
>> 
>> Links:
>> [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9712793 (link)
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Posting to comp.misc, sci.misc, and misc.news.internet.discuss
>> 
>
> Though some things plugged into the breadboard have solder on them. In 
> extremis, one could have the entire thing on a soldered PCB, and just have 
> the power supply go into the breadboard, so it's only a matter of degree.
>
But some components don't fit the breadboard (though with an all digital 
circuit like a computer, that's less likely), so you'd often have to solde 
wires to switches and potentiometers so they could be connected to the 
breadboard.

> All power to him though - I've never managed to get anything like that many 
> breadboard connections to work at the same time. My limit's probably about 
> 10, and that's if I'm lucky.
>
One interesting thing is that it's now simpler.

In the old days, you'd either have to live with a small amount of RAM, or 
do endless repetitive wiring to get a lot of RAM.

Now you can just dig some cache RAM off a motherboard (though I guess 
those are now getting far enough in the past that they may be hard to 
find), and a single IC will give you a nice chunk of RAM to begin with.

There was a Dr. Dobb's book about the 68000, and it collected various 
articles about the CPU, some old, some I think written for the book.  It 
included an article about bootstrapping the 68000, so you didn't need a 
fancy front panel or a monitor in ROM before you could start.  So you'd 
jam a NOP onto the data bus, which would advance the address lines, so you 
could load data into RAM.  The same basic oncept had been shown 
previously, Byte definitely ran an article about doing the same thing with 
the 8085, and in retrospect, this is the idea used by Don Lancaster's 
"Cheap Video Cookbook" where he adds a display to a CPU without adding a 
whole lot of hardware.

   Michael

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#7908

FromAndy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk>
Date2015-06-14 16:54 +0100
Message-ID<2p6dnWTItrFJPuDInZ2dnUU78LednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#7907
Michael Black wrote:

> In the old days, you'd either have to live with a small amount of RAM, or
> do endless repetitive wiring to get a lot of RAM.
>
> Now you can just dig some cache RAM off a motherboard (though I guess
> those are now getting far enough in the past that they may be hard to
> find), and a single IC will give you a nice chunk of RAM to begin with.

You mean some of them /weren't/ fake? :-P

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