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People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution

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First post2014-07-10 11:33 +0000
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  People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-07-10 11:33 +0000
    Re: People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-07-10 16:10 +0100
      Re: People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-07-10 15:38 +0000
        Re: People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-07-11 09:00 +0000
          Re: People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2014-07-11 12:07 +0100
    Re: People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-12 13:42 -0700

#3996 — People are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-07-10 11:33 +0000
SubjectPeople are buying PCs again: so much for the tablet revolution
Message-ID<lpltlg$eak$1@solani.org>
From the «why can't we all just get along?» department:
Title: What PC sales slump? That's ALL OVER, declares Gartner
Author: Neil McAllister
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 19:56:10 -0400
Link: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.channelregister.co.uk/2014/07/09/gartner_pc_market_growth_figures/

Analyst firm says shipments grew in Q2 – and they'll keep growing

An optimistic new report from Gartner suggests that the PC market may
actually be returning to growth, with most of the sales going to top-name
vendors.…

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#3997

FromHils <hils@saynotospam.net>
Date2014-07-10 16:10 +0100
Message-ID<lpmadp$7jk$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#3996
On 2014-07-10 12:33, RS Wood wrote:
> From the «why can't we all just get along?» department:
> Title: What PC sales slump? That's ALL OVER, declares Gartner
> Author: Neil McAllister
> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 19:56:10 -0400
> Link: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.channelregister.co.uk/2014/07/09/gartner_pc_market_growth_figures/
> 
> Analyst firm says shipments grew in Q2 – and they'll keep growing
> 
> An optimistic new report from Gartner suggests that the PC market may
> actually be returning to growth, with most of the sales going to top-name
> vendors.…

It could be that people who are starting off with tablets are
discovering what fun can be had with heftier CPU power.

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#3999

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2014-07-10 15:38 +0000
Message-ID<lpmc0s$pvs$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3997
Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> wrote:
> On 2014-07-10 12:33, RS Wood wrote:
> > From the «why can't we all just get along?» department:
> > Title: What PC sales slump? That's ALL OVER, declares Gartner
> > Author: Neil McAllister
> > Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 19:56:10 -0400
> > Link: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.channelregister.co.uk/2014/07/09/gartner_pc_market_growth_figures/
> > 
> > Analyst firm says shipments grew in Q2 ? and they'll keep growing
> > 
> > An optimistic new report from Gartner suggests that the PC market
> > may actually be returning to growth, with most of the sales going
> > to top-name vendors.?

> It could be that people who are starting off with tablets are
> discovering what fun can be had with heftier CPU power.

There are also other possibilities (not an exhaustive list):

1) many sheep went ga-ga over the "newest cool toy" - but after getting
   it for a while they found it too limiting overall and are returning
   to purchasing true general purpose devices.

2) many had limited budgets for "new toys" - buying the latest "cool
   new toy" blew out the budget so the other "toys" saw a drop in
   purchasing.  Now, after having purchased one of the "new toys" they
   don't need a second tablet, and/or have found they still need a PC
   afterall.

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#4002

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-07-11 09:00 +0000
Message-ID<rsw-AD6C80.09004011072014@189-82-4-46.user.veloxzone.com.br>
In reply to#3999
In article <lpmc0s$pvs$3@dont-email.me>, Rich <rich@example.invalid> 
> > It could be that people who are starting off with tablets are
> > discovering what fun can be had with heftier CPU power.
> 
> There are also other possibilities (not an exhaustive list):
> 
> 1) many sheep went ga-ga over the "newest cool toy" - but after getting
>    it for a while they found it too limiting overall and are returning
>    to purchasing true general purpose devices.
> 
> 2) many had limited budgets for "new toys" - buying the latest "cool
>    new toy" blew out the budget so the other "toys" saw a drop in
>    purchasing.  Now, after having purchased one of the "new toys" they
>    don't need a second tablet, and/or have found they still need a PC
>    afterall.


I agree with both of you.  I was late to the game by other people's 
standards, but still bought a Nexus 7 for me and an ipad for the Missus.  
Played with them for a while, thought I'd be better off with a Bluetooth 
keyboard and bought that, and finally decided they were good for what I 
do with half the day, but the other half of the day I still need (and 
want) a beefy computer, real keyboard, and apps I'm used to using for 
project management, writing, calculating, etc.  The tablets remain 
awesome for traveling, reading, and surfing the web.  I don't even 
really use them that often for typing out an email.  So in a year or so 
I'll be looking for a replacement for my worn out PC.

I kind of suspect something like this is happening.  Tablets are great 
for lots of people, and especially for people who read but don't write.  
Everyone else still needs a PC sooner or later, and they don't last 
forever.

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#4004

FromRJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
Date2014-07-11 12:07 +0100
Message-ID<r_adnfVWaMHFWCLOnZ2dnUVZ8jadnZ2d@bt.com>
In reply to#4002
On 11/07/2014 10:00, RS Wood wrote:
> In article <lpmc0s$pvs$3@dont-email.me>, Rich <rich@example.invalid>
>>> It could be that people who are starting off with tablets are
>>> discovering what fun can be had with heftier CPU power.
>>
>> There are also other possibilities (not an exhaustive list):
>>
>> 1) many sheep went ga-ga over the "newest cool toy" - but after getting
>>     it for a while they found it too limiting overall and are returning
>>     to purchasing true general purpose devices.
>>
>> 2) many had limited budgets for "new toys" - buying the latest "cool
>>     new toy" blew out the budget so the other "toys" saw a drop in
>>     purchasing.  Now, after having purchased one of the "new toys" they
>>     don't need a second tablet, and/or have found they still need a PC
>>     afterall.
>
>
> I agree with both of you.  I was late to the game by other people's
> standards, but still bought a Nexus 7 for me and an ipad for the Missus.
> Played with them for a while, thought I'd be better off with a Bluetooth
> keyboard and bought that, and finally decided they were good for what I
> do with half the day, but the other half of the day I still need (and
> want) a beefy computer, real keyboard, and apps I'm used to using for
> project management, writing, calculating, etc.  The tablets remain
> awesome for traveling, reading, and surfing the web.  I don't even
> really use them that often for typing out an email.  So in a year or so
> I'll be looking for a replacement for my worn out PC.
>
> I kind of suspect something like this is happening.  Tablets are great
> for lots of people, and especially for people who read but don't write.
> Everyone else still needs a PC sooner or later, and they don't last
> forever.
>

Me too.

Although my definition of beefy is a 2010 27" i5 iMac with a 500GB SSD. 
I'm often inclined to throw money at trivial problems, but I honestly 
can't see a need to upgrade, and I use some quite testing software (GIS, 
video, MS Windows and Office (;-)) etc).

Not really games though - just some mid-90s strategy games on the 
Windows partition.

-- 
Cheers, Rob

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#4007

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2014-07-12 13:42 -0700
Message-ID<nfSdnS9AYf0lAFzOnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#3996
On 7/10/2014 4:33 AM PT, RS Wood typed:

>  From the «why can't we all just get along?» department:
> Title: What PC sales slump? That's ALL OVER, declares Gartner
> Author: Neil McAllister
> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 19:56:10 -0400
> Link: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.channelregister.co.uk/2014/07/09/gartner_pc_market_growth_figures/
>
> Analyst firm says shipments grew in Q2 – and they'll keep growing
>
> An optimistic new report from Gartner suggests that the PC market may
> actually be returning to growth, with most of the sales going to top-name
> vendors.…

Yay. I am not a fan of tablets, touch screen devices, etc. I still 
prefer old fashion computers with clicky keyboards. Even a slow netbook 
would do! :D
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