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| Started by | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| First post | 2014-06-16 16:17 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-06-16 17:50 -0700 |
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[CM] Is HFS+ still a viable file system? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-16 16:17 +0000
Re: [CM] Is HFS+ still a viable file system? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-16 17:50 -0700
| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 16:17 +0000 |
| Subject | [CM] Is HFS+ still a viable file system? |
| Message-ID | <lnn5be$aer$1@solani.org> |
From the «It's got a plus, so that's good» department: Title: HFS+ bit rot Author: Thom Holwerda Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 10:03:23 -0400 Link: http://osnews.com/story/27777/HFS_bit_rot HFS+ lost a total of 28 files over the course of 6 years. Most of the corrupted files are completely unreadable. The JPEGs typically decode partially, up to the point of failure. So if you're lucky, you may get most of the image except the bottom part. The raw .CR2 files usually turn out to be totally unreadable: either completely black or having a large color overlay on significant portions of the photo. Most of these shots are not so important, but a handful of them are. One of the CR2 files in particular, is a very good picture of my son when he was a baby. I printed and framed that photo, so I am glad that I did not lose the original. If you're keeping all your files and backups on HFS+ volumes, you're doing it wrong. HFS+ is a weird vestigial pre-OS X leftover that, for some reason, Apple just does not replace. Apple tends to be relentless when it comes to moving on from past code, but HFS+ just refuses to die. As John Siracusa, long-time critic of HFS+, stated way back in 2011: I would have certainly welcomed ZFS with open arms, but I was equally confident that Apple could create its own file system suited to its particular needs. That confidence remains, but the ZFS distraction may have added years to the timetable. Three years later, and still nothing, and with Yosemite also shipping with HFS+, it'll take another 1-2 years before we possibly see a new, modern, non-crappy filesystem for OS X. Decades from now, books will be written about this saga.
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-16 17:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lno3c5$pva$1@dont-email.me> |
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On 2014-06-16 16:17:50 +0000, RS Wood said: > From the «It's got a plus, so that's good» department: > Title: HFS+ bit rot > Author: Thom Holwerda > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 10:03:23 -0400 > Link: http://osnews.com/story/27777/HFS_bit_rot > > HFS+ lost a total of 28 files over the course of 6 years. Most of the > corrupted files are completely unreadable. The JPEGs typically decode > partially, up to the point of failure. So if you're lucky, you may get most > of the image except the bottom part. The raw .CR2 files usually turn out to > be totally unreadable: either completely black or having a large color > overlay on significant portions of the photo. Most of these shots are not so > important, but a handful of them are. One of the CR2 files in particular, is > a very good picture of my son when he was a baby. I printed and framed that > photo, so I am glad that I did not lose the original. If you're keeping all > your files and backups on HFS+ volumes, you're doing it wrong. HFS+ is a > weird vestigial pre-OS X leftover that, for some reason, Apple just does not > replace. Apple tends to be relentless when it comes to moving on from past > code, but HFS+ just refuses to die. As John Siracusa, long-time critic of > HFS+, stated way back in 2011: I would have certainly welcomed ZFS with open > arms, but I was equally confident that Apple could create its own file system > suited to its particular needs. That confidence remains, but the ZFS > distraction may have added years to the timetable. Three years later, and > still nothing, and with Yosemite also shipping with HFS+, it'll take another > 1-2 years before we possibly see a new, modern, non-crappy filesystem for OS > X. Decades from now, books will be written about this saga. The only production file system that I am aware of that is immune to bit rot is ZFS with either copies=>1 or zraid.
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