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| Started by | Dale R Worley <worley@shell01.TheWorld.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-23 16:39 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-26 17:54 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 240 — 49 participants |
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Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dale R Worley <worley@shell01.TheWorld.com> - 2014-05-23 16:39 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2014-05-23 16:32 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-23 23:28 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-24 08:23 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 23:55 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-24 00:17 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2014-05-24 10:21 -0300
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-24 14:37 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:16 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-24 14:45 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 11:25 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 10:32 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 21:40 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 13:34 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 21:35 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-26 21:47 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-27 00:09 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-28 16:07 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-29 02:16 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-05-28 23:23 -0600
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-29 11:26 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 10:30 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-29 20:05 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-29 20:31 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-29 22:36 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 19:16 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:31 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:31 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-01 10:27 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-01 12:15 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:14 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:12 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 08:00 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-30 14:44 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:42 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 07:29 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:36 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 17:47 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 09:37 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 00:00 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:34 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 12:31 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:48 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:22 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:09 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-06-02 16:27 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-06-02 13:00 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-06-02 13:16 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-02 13:57 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2014-08-29 13:38 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 22:14 +0300
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> - 2014-08-29 20:55 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-30 01:21 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-01 09:23 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:44 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:21 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:59 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:03 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-04 09:33 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:35 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:31 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-06-01 21:59 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 16:46 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 07:26 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-31 12:48 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:44 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:32 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:18 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 18:59 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-30 07:28 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:26 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-30 15:24 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 17:40 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 16:24 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-05-30 15:57 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 16:14 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-31 12:46 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-31 21:41 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 12:31 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:19 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:06 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-29 21:46 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-29 21:31 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 20:49 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-30 02:00 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 11:42 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-30 06:32 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 16:22 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-30 22:43 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 08:06 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:29 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-30 13:23 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:44 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 15:52 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-30 07:18 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 21:09 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-30 16:17 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:19 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-30 21:47 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-30 23:01 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:44 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 17:17 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 07:51 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:47 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 08:03 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:48 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:03 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-30 12:53 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 15:14 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-29 13:33 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 14:40 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-05-26 20:38 -0600
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 13:32 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 05:58 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-25 15:09 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-24 09:41 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 20:37 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-24 14:05 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-24 18:48 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 12:34 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-25 13:57 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 17:15 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 15:44 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 16:28 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 06:39 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-24 21:22 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 08:19 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-25 08:10 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 20:44 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-25 16:11 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 04:16 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 10:28 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-25 15:09 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 16:32 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 17:39 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-25 12:20 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 18:55 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 20:02 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-25 22:29 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-25 17:20 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-26 05:06 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 11:45 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-26 12:34 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-26 14:28 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-26 16:05 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 13:41 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 14:39 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 16:03 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-26 11:27 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 12:26 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 13:36 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:46 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 21:27 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 15:46 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-26 17:01 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 11:40 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 14:59 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-27 12:17 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn ERSHC <ershc123@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-27 03:50 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 05:50 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-26 12:54 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 17:49 +0000
Re: a long way from a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-26 17:55 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 19:48 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:59 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 09:03 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-27 16:01 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 16:03 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 16:55 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:47 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 21:34 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-27 21:20 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-05-27 20:16 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-28 11:22 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 13:27 +0300
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-05-29 15:20 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:39 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 07:43 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 13:19 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:29 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-30 16:57 +0300
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-27 17:28 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:48 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-27 18:12 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:05 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-28 00:12 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-28 08:08 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-28 11:01 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2014-05-28 11:02 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 08:53 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rob Brown <brown@greenslade.gmcl.internal> - 2014-05-27 21:05 +0000
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-27 22:21 +0000
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-28 14:38 -0500
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 01:50 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 07:34 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 10:08 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 10:15 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-29 09:40 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 20:58 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 09:35 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-26 20:58 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-26 21:16 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 20:22 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 11:33 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-27 10:49 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 23:46 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 06:39 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2014-05-27 10:45 +0000
Re: components not found in a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-25 19:05 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 22:23 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-26 17:20 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-27 13:01 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 00:24 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-29 12:52 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 15:00 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 14:21 -0700
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:40 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-05-25 17:30 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 20:38 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:28 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-26 07:54 -0800
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-24 22:37 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 07:16 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-25 10:26 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-24 07:28 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-25 16:08 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-25 19:33 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-05-31 09:06 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-31 10:28 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-26 17:54 +0100
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| From | Dale R Worley <worley@shell01.TheWorld.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-23 16:39 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn |
| Message-ID | <ypvppj4ut5h.fsf@nntp.theworld.com> |
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes: >> How big are those stones? Pebbles? Boulders? > > 14 lb. So, when I really *was* "Huge", I was 280lb. > >> Sorry, here it is :-) >> >> I am sure most of our American readers are either confused or scrambling >> for Google to find out just what that means. > > Interesting that although America has retained much obsolete British > terminology, usage and units, they have discarded the stone. And the > fortnight. The fortnight is little-used, but its meaning is clear if you look it up in the dictionary. The problem with the stone is that there are two versions: 14 lb. and 20 lb, and since it is not used at all in the US, there's no way for a USanian to find out which definition is the one used for weighing humans. Dale
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| From | Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> |
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| Date | 2014-05-23 16:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MMudnfzJNo0YI-LOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #3039 |
Dale R Worley wrote: > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes: >>> How big are those stones? Pebbles? Boulders? >> >> 14 lb. So, when I really *was* "Huge", I was 280lb. >> >>> Sorry, here it is :-) >>> >>> I am sure most of our American readers are either confused or scrambling >>> for Google to find out just what that means. >> >> Interesting that although America has retained much obsolete British >> terminology, usage and units, they have discarded the stone. And the >> fortnight. > > The fortnight is little-used, but its meaning is clear if you look it > up in the dictionary. The problem with the stone is that there are > two versions: 14 lb. and 20 lb, and since it is not used at all in > the US, there's no way for a USanian to find out which definition is > the one used for weighing humans. In the VMS operating system, there was a system parameter that was specified in units of ufortnights. (Irt was noted in the docs that this was approximated by seconds.) Jon
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| From | Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2014-05-23 23:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bua3tgFmh2vU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3044 |
On Fri, 23 May 2014 16:32:53 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > Dale R Worley wrote: > >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes: >>>> How big are those stones? Pebbles? Boulders? >>> >>> 14 lb. So, when I really *was* "Huge", I was 280lb. >>> >>>> Sorry, here it is :-) >>>> >>>> I am sure most of our American readers are either confused or >>>> scrambling for Google to find out just what that means. >>> >>> Interesting that although America has retained much obsolete British >>> terminology, usage and units, they have discarded the stone. And the >>> fortnight. >> >> The fortnight is little-used, but its meaning is clear if you look it >> up in the dictionary. The problem with the stone is that there are two >> versions: 14 lb. and 20 lb, and since it is not used at all in the US, >> there's no way for a USanian to find out which definition is the one >> used for weighing humans. > In the VMS operating system, there was a system parameter that was > specified in units of ufortnights. (Irt was noted in the docs that this > was approximated by seconds.) That was what I was referring to back up-thread when I mentioned DEC. About 1.2 seconds, I believe. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 08:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sgq55b-o35.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #3044 |
On 2014-05-23, Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote:
>
> In the VMS operating system, there was a system parameter that was specified
> in units of ufortnights. (Irt was noted in the docs that this was
> approximated by seconds.)
Here you go:
SYSGEN> SHOW TIMEPROMPTWAIT
Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- -------
TIMEPROMPTWAIT 65535 65535 0 65535 uFortnight
Here's the help on that parameter:
TIMEPROMPTWAIT defines the number of seconds that you want a
processor to wait for the time and date to be entered when a
system boot occurs, if the processor's time-of-year clock does
not contain a valid time. (The time unit of micro-fortnights
is approximated as seconds in the implementation.) If the
time specified by TIMEPROMPTWAIT elapses, the system continues
the boot operation, and the date and time are set to the last
recorded time that the system booted.
NOTE
Compaq recommends that you set the correct system time
before allowing the system to run, so that all functions
using time-stamping (such as the operator log, the error
log, accounting records, file creation dates, and file
expiration dates) contain correct time values.
Depending on the value specified for the TIMEPROMPTWAIT
parameter, the system acts in one of the following ways:
o If TIMEPROMPTWAIT is 0, no prompt or wait occurs; the system
boots immediately, using the time of the last boot as the
system time.
o If TIMEPROMPTWAIT is a positive number less than 32768, one
prompt is issued and the value dictates how many seconds you
can take to respond with a time. If you do not provide a time
before TIMEPROMPTWAIT elapses, the system boots, using the
time of the last boot as the system time.
o If TIMEPROMPTWAIT is a number in the range of 32768 through
65535, the prompt for the time is issued at intervals starting
with 2 and doubling until 256 seconds is reached. If no
response is received, the prompts restart, with the 2-second
interval. This prompting process repeats indefinitely, until
you specify a time.
--
Paul Sture
The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise
her to change her maiden name -- @gojomo
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| From | glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> |
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| Date | 2014-05-23 23:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llon4q$5uq$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #3039 |
In alt.sys.pdp11 Dale R Worley <worley@shell01.theworld.com> wrote: (snip) > The fortnight is little-used, but its meaning is clear if you look it > up in the dictionary. The problem with the stone is that there are > two versions: 14 lb. and 20 lb, and since it is not used at all in > the US, there's no way for a USanian to find out which definition is > the one used for weighing humans. I remember when Canada sold gasoline (and probably other things) in imperial gallons, which were 5/4 US gallons. (Or close to that.) I don't know which other units have US and Imperial versions different by some strange factor. -- glen
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| From | John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 00:17 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <llooes$2549$1@miucha.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #3053 |
>I remember when Canada sold gasoline (and probably other things) >in imperial gallons, which were 5/4 US gallons. (Or close to that.) > >I don't know which other units have US and Imperial versions >different by some strange factor. The usual ones, quarts, pints, and so forth. A pint of beer in an English pub is 568 ml, considerably larger than the US liquid pint of 473 ml. Of course, here in the US we still have liquid and dry pints and quarts and pecks and bushels, so who are we to complain? -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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| From | Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 10:21 -0300 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <2l51o9d69kui1b7bpskq19508cmht0cg45@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #3054 |
On Sat, 24 May 2014 00:17:32 +0000 (UTC), John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: > Of course, here in the US we still have liquid and dry pints and > quarts and pecks and bushels, so who are we to complain? Pints and quarts come in liquid and dry, but pecks and bushels are dry. Liquid measures continue up with gallons. A fluid quart is a quarter of a gallon; a dry quart is an eighth of a peck, and a peck is a quarter of a bushel. Aha! Wikipedia claims that there used to be a dry gallon, equal to half a peck! Finally the quart=1/8 explained. Dry measure is pretty much out of use; it was, in my youth, used only for selling farm produce, and we weigh vegetables and fruit now. But one still sometimes sees half-peck bags of apples. I suspect that there is only one factory still making the bags, as they all look like the one in the Wikipedia article. Bushel baskets used to be so common that dime stores sold oilcloth liners to enable housewives to use a basket to dampen ironing, but I haven't seen a bushel since 1960. -- joy beeson at comcast dot net http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ The above message is a Usenet post. I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
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| From | John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 14:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <llqar6$1ro9$1@miucha.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #3076 |
>Dry measure is pretty much out of use; it was, in my youth, used only >for selling farm produce, and we weigh vegetables and fruit now. But >one still sometimes sees half-peck bags of apples. I suspect that >there is only one factory still making the bags, as they all look like >the one in the Wikipedia article. > >Bushel baskets used to be so common that dime stores sold oilcloth >liners to enable housewives to use a basket to dampen ironing, but I >haven't seen a bushel since 1960. I see them every fall, although these days they're more likely to be sturdy cardboard boxes. We also see lots of half peck bags of apples, both at farm stands and in the grocery stores. There appear to be at least two producers of the bags, since they use different typefaces. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <2053343722422641716.128099peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #3076 |
Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote: > > Bushel baskets used to be so common that dime stores sold oilcloth > liners to enable housewives to use a basket to dampen ironing, but I > haven't seen a bushel since 1960. > I think I still see them at farmstands, for a bushel of apples, e.g. They also sell half-bushels of stuff. -- Pete
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 14:16 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <llqr5u$1iv$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3076 |
On 24-May-14 08:21, Joy Beeson wrote: > Dry measure is pretty much out of use; it was, in my youth, used > only for selling farm produce, and we weigh vegetables and fruit now. Produce is sold by weight at the grocery store, but in US agricultural industry and commodities markets, crops are still measured in bushels. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 14:45 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <bucb7iF5pmgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3095 |
"Stephen Sprunk" wrote: > Produce is sold by weight at the grocery store, but in US agricultural > industry and commodities markets, crops are still measured in bushels. You city folk! Yeah, they empty the truck and then a guy with a long tape measure and big protractor sketches the truck box and they ruin that through a PC program and it comes up with bushels and then ..... No. They talk bushes but measure in weight - just like the grocery store. Note that shelled corn, oats, soybeans and wheat are all listed in the referenced table. http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/scales/bushels.html
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-05-25 11:25 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <4ip85b-ssc2.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #3099 |
On 2014-05-24, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Stephen Sprunk" wrote:
>
>> Produce is sold by weight at the grocery store, but in US agricultural
>> industry and commodities markets, crops are still measured in bushels.
>
> You city folk!
>
> Yeah, they empty the truck and then a guy with a long tape measure and big
> protractor sketches the truck box and they ruin that through a PC program
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> and it comes up with bushels and then .....
Lovely typo :-)
> No. They talk bushes but measure in weight - just like the grocery store.
> Note that shelled corn, oats, soybeans and wheat are all listed in the
> referenced table.
>
> http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/scales/bushels.html
Even the organic waste dump near here has a weighbridge.
--
Paul Sture
The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise
her to change her maiden name -- @gojomo
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| From | "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2014-05-25 10:32 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <op.xgesskyyo4et73@dell3100> |
| In reply to | #3132 |
On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:25:56 +0100, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: > On 2014-05-24, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote: >> "Stephen Sprunk" wrote: >> >>> Produce is sold by weight at the grocery store, but in US agricultural >>> industry and commodities markets, crops are still measured in bushels. >> >> You city folk! >> >> Yeah, they empty the truck and then a guy with a long tape measure and >> big >> protractor sketches the truck box and they ruin that through a PC >> program > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> and it comes up with bushels and then ..... > > Lovely typo :-) > I smiled. [] > > Even the organic waste dump near here has a weighbridge. > The use of weights for scrap (and so recycling) is wrong; it's an active disincentive to collect and re-use less dense material such as polystyrene, as it is so bulky for it's weight, yet is non-biodegradable in landfill. -- It's a money /life balance.
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-25 21:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <103423518422746598.563342bob_davis_retired-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #3134 |
"Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:25:56 +0100, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: > >> On 2014-05-24, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote: >>> "Stephen Sprunk" wrote: >>> >>>> Produce is sold by weight at the grocery store, but in US agricultural >>>> industry and commodities markets, crops are still measured in bushels. >>> >>> You city folk! >>> >>> Yeah, they empty the truck and then a guy with a long tape measure and >> big >>> protractor sketches the truck box and they ruin that through a PC >> program >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> and it comes up with bushels and then ..... >> >> Lovely typo :-) >> > I smiled. > > [] >> >> Even the organic waste dump near here has a weighbridge. >> > The use of weights for scrap (and so recycling) is wrong; it's an active > disincentive to collect and re-use less dense material such as > polystyrene, as it is so bulky for it's weight, yet is non-biodegradable in landfill. Any non-biodegradable waste in a landfill is just money in the bank.
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <359089630422799015.917999peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #3184 |
Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote: >> On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:25:56 +0100, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: >> >>> On 2014-05-24, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> "Stephen Sprunk" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Produce is sold by weight at the grocery store, but in US agricultural >>>>> industry and commodities markets, crops are still measured in bushels. >>>> >>>> You city folk! >>>> >>>> Yeah, they empty the truck and then a guy with a long tape measure and >> big >>>> protractor sketches the truck box and they ruin that through a PC >> program >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>> and it comes up with bushels and then ..... >>> >>> Lovely typo :-) >>> >> I smiled. >> >> [] >>> >>> Even the organic waste dump near here has a weighbridge. >>> >> The use of weights for scrap (and so recycling) is wrong; it's an active >> disincentive to collect and re-use less dense material such as >> polystyrene, as it is so bulky for it's weight, yet is non-biodegradable in landfill. > > > Any non-biodegradable waste in a landfill is just money in the bank. I'm not sure how much degrades anyhow. Landfills these days have an impermeable clay base and a layer of heavy plastic lining. Each day's trash is covered with dirt at the end of the day. I think when they close the landfill they cover it with another layer of plastic, so the trash never gets exposed to air or water. It's as if they're taking great piains to see that the stuff *never* degrades. -- Pete
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 13:34 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <lm01ev$hef$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3210 |
On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: > Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Any non-biodegradable waste in a landfill is just money in the >> bank. > > I'm not sure how much degrades anyhow. Landfills these days have an > impermeable clay base and a layer of heavy plastic lining. Each > day's trash is covered with dirt at the end of the day. I think when > they close the landfill they cover it with another layer of plastic, > so the trash never gets exposed to air or water. It's as if they're > taking great piains to see that the stuff *never* degrades. Of course; organic decomposition releases smelly gases, which neighbors would complain about--by suing them into bankruptcy. Some landfills _do_ pipe water and bacteria down and gases back out, which they then burn off (either openly or to generate power), but that's really only feasible after the entire thing has been capped off. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 21:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <46906097422831807.520778peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #3240 |
Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: > On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: >> Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Any non-biodegradable waste in a landfill is just money in the >>> bank. >> >> I'm not sure how much degrades anyhow. Landfills these days have an >> impermeable clay base and a layer of heavy plastic lining. Each >> day's trash is covered with dirt at the end of the day. I think when >> they close the landfill they cover it with another layer of plastic, >> so the trash never gets exposed to air or water. It's as if they're >> taking great piains to see that the stuff *never* degrades. > > Of course; organic decomposition releases smelly gases, which neighbors > would complain about--by suing them into bankruptcy. > > Some landfills _do_ pipe water and bacteria down and gases back out, > which they then burn off (either openly or to generate power), but > that's really only feasible after the entire thing has been capped off. > Local landfill was capped and pipes put in, I guess to vent methane. Someone then built nice, expensive, apartment houses across the street. I don't know what the "official" name is, but I cLl them "dumpview apartments." It seems like there's nothing they can do with the old landfill, although it would seem if it has enough dirt on it they could use it as a park. -- Pete
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| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 21:47 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <lm0cpg$j3c$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #3263 |
On 2014-05-26, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > Local landfill was capped and pipes put in, I guess to vent methane. > Someone then built nice, expensive, apartment houses across the street. I > don't know what the "official" name is, but I cLl them "dumpview > apartments." It seems like there's nothing they can do with the old > landfill, although it would seem if it has enough dirt on it they could use > it as a park. I used to work for an engineering firm that designed and capped landfills, and part of the work was going door to door periodically to test for methane building up in the basements. People living next to landfills do /not/ like the idea of landfill gas seeping into their homes, let me tell you. -- This post is guaranteed 100% free of any relevance to PDPs in Brooklyn or elsewhere.
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 00:09 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <6mqc5b-fed2.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #3263 |
On 2014-05-26, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Local landfill was capped and pipes put in, I guess to vent methane. > Someone then built nice, expensive, apartment houses across the street. I > don't know what the "official" name is, but I cLl them "dumpview > apartments." It seems like there's nothing they can do with the old > landfill, although it would seem if it has enough dirt on it they could use > it as a park. My school playing fields were constructed on an old landfill site. It apparently conferred the advantage of good drainage. The house my parents bought when they retired was built on an old landfill site. Apparently some sort of raft system was used for each house built there. I have never heard of any gas or subsidence problems with either site. -- Paul Sture The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise her to change her maiden name -- @gojomo
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 16:07 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? |
| Message-ID | <lm5j6g$41p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3263 |
On 26-May-14 16:35, Peter Flass wrote: > Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >> On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: >>> I'm not sure how much degrades anyhow. Landfills these days have >>> an impermeable clay base and a layer of heavy plastic lining. >>> Each day's trash is covered with dirt at the end of the day. I >>> think when they close the landfill they cover it with another >>> layer of plastic, so the trash never gets exposed to air or >>> water. It's as if they're taking great piains to see that the >>> stuff *never* degrades. >> >> Of course; organic decomposition releases smelly gases, which >> neighbors would complain about--by suing them into bankruptcy. >> >> Some landfills _do_ pipe water and bacteria down and gases back >> out, which they then burn off (either openly or to generate power), >> but that's really only feasible after the entire thing has been >> capped off. > > Local landfill was capped and pipes put in, I guess to vent methane. > Someone then built nice, expensive, apartment houses across the > street. I don't know what the "official" name is, but I cLl them > "dumpview apartments." It seems like there's nothing they can do > with the old landfill, although it would seem if it has enough dirt > on it they could use it as a park. ... until some journalist figured it out and ran a story about how some evil corporation/politician is trying to trick you into letting your kids play on top of a pile of toxic waste. It's far cheaper to fence it off than deal with the lawsuits and PR nightmare that comes from trying to do something productive with it. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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