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  Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-09 10:32 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-04-09 12:05 +0100
      Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-09 21:46 +0000
      Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Rob <monst.oorzudo@ntlworld.com> - 2014-04-11 06:12 +0100
    Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-04-09 14:19 +0000
      Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-09 15:43 +0000
      Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-09 21:47 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2014-04-09 17:57 +0100
      Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-09 21:45 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2014-04-09 22:00 +0100
          Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer   exists polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-04-09 22:17 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-09 22:25 +0000

#2321 — Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists

I was researching something for an article at Pipedot and came across
these two interesting bits about Microsoft Word.  As I'm shackled to
that abomination of soul-destroying suckage all day at work, these two
articles resonated for me.

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669530/why-microsoft-word-really-sucks-it-was-invented-in-a-paper-powered-world
http://www.planix.com/~woods/ms-word.sucks.html


-- 
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>

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#2322

On 2014-04-09 11:32, RS Wood wrote:
> I was researching something for an article at Pipedot and came across
> these two interesting bits about Microsoft Word.  As I'm shackled to
> that abomination of soul-destroying suckage all day at work, these two
> articles resonated for me.
> 
> http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669530/why-microsoft-word-really-sucks-it-was-invented-in-a-paper-powered-world

"If you’re reading this, you probably have Microsoft Word installed on
your computer."

Er, no. I haven't used it for ten years. I brought home a corporate copy
from my then employer and never installed it, I preferred OpenOffice
even under Windoze. Now it's LibreOffice (under Debian) for the
occasional letter and LaTeX for serious documents. MS can KMA.

"It’s hard to function without it."

Only if you've bought into the MS BS.

> http://www.planix.com/~woods/ms-word.sucks.html

:-)

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#2330

In article <li39ha$kn2$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Hils
<hils@saynotospam.net> wrote:

> On 2014-04-09 11:32, RS Wood wrote:
> > I was researching something for an article at Pipedot and came across
> > these two interesting bits about Microsoft Word.  As I'm shackled to
> > that abomination of soul-destroying suckage all day at work, these two
> > articles resonated for me.
> > 
> >
> > http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669530/why-microsoft-word-really-sucks-it-was-i
> > nvented-in-a-paper-powered-world
> 
> "If you‚re reading this, you probably have Microsoft Word installed on
> your computer."
> 
> Er, no. I haven't used it for ten years. I brought home a corporate copy
> from my then employer and never installed it, I preferred OpenOffice
> even under Windoze. Now it's LibreOffice (under Debian) for the
> occasional letter and LaTeX for serious documents. MS can KMA.
> 
> "It‚s hard to function without it."
> 
> Only if you've bought into the MS BS.

Well you bought into the latex b/s, why wouldn't you buy into MS?

-- 
"Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of
those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf

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#2358

On 09/04/14 12:05, Hils wrote:

> "If you’re reading this, you probably have Microsoft Word installed on
> your computer."

Using OpenSUSE 13.1 here, with LibreOffice.

> Only if you've bought into the MS BS.

That could be a new OS... :-)

-- 
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational 
in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary 
to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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#2325

On 2014-04-09, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> I was researching something for an article at Pipedot and came across
> these two interesting bits about Microsoft Word.  As I'm shackled to
> that abomination of soul-destroying suckage all day at work, these two
> articles resonated for me.
>
> http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669530/why-microsoft-word-really-sucks-it-was-invented-in-a-paper-powered-world

Not that I'm deeply impressed with a server that returns this error;

"Interal Server Error."

Interal?

-- 
Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 26th day of Discord in the YOLD 3180
“Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime;
 the sentence is death. There is no appeal, and execution is carried out
                 automatically and without pity.”

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#2326

On 2014-04-09, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> Not that I'm deeply impressed with a server that returns this error;
> "Interal Server Error." Interal?

It's like "interred," as in "dead and buried."  :)

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#2331

In article <bql37kFcgdmU5@mid.individual.net>, Huge
<Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2014-04-09, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> > I was researching something for an article at Pipedot and came across
> > these two interesting bits about Microsoft Word.  As I'm shackled to
> > that abomination of soul-destroying suckage all day at work, these two
> > articles resonated for me.
> >
> >
> > http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669530/why-microsoft-word-really-sucks-it-was-i
> > nvented-in-a-paper-powered-world
> 
> Not that I'm deeply impressed with a server that returns this error;
> 
> "Interal Server Error."
> 
> Interal?

Even Word is Made in China these days.

-- 
"People don't buy Microsoft for quality, they buy it for compatibility
with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy
Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc

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#2327

On 09/04/2014 11:32, RS Wood wrote:
> I was researching something for an article at Pipedot and came across
> these two interesting bits about Microsoft Word.  As I'm shackled to
> that abomination of soul-destroying suckage all day at work, these two
> articles resonated for me.
>
> http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669530/why-microsoft-word-really-sucks-it-was-invented-in-a-paper-powered-world
> http://www.planix.com/~woods/ms-word.sucks.html

I have a copy of Office 2011 for Mac - bought cheap on Amazon back when 
I made the jump to an iMac (and self-employment) in 2012 - because I 
still occasionally need to use Word documents from elsewhere, and 
Apple's Pages couldn't reproduce the formatting. (I do make use of Excel 
for tracking business costs, and working out what I owe the taxman.)

I've used Word professionally for more years than I care to remember - 
from Word 2.0 all the way up to 2010, including the wacky 'hey kids, 
let's make websites using Word' phase, the Office 'Assistant' phase, and 
the accursed Ribbon. *spit* Best thing about the Mac version of Office, 
other than the ability to export to PDF, as that it has an actual menu 
at the top of the screen, thus saving me from losing my mind trying to 
find particular features on the Ribbon.

--
Alan Ralph
Wearer Of Many Hats!

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#2329

In article <li3u62$lar$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Ralph
<usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:


> Best thing about the Mac version of Office, 
> other than the ability to export to PDF, as that it has an actual menu 
> at the top of the screen, thus saving me from losing my mind trying to 
> find particular features on the Ribbon.

Any Mac app that can print can export to PDF.

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#2332

On 09/04/2014 22:45, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <li3u62$lar$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Ralph
> <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> Best thing about the Mac version of Office, other than the ability to
>> export to PDF, as that it has an actual menu at the top of the screen,
>> thus saving me from losing my mind trying to find particular features
>> on the Ribbon.
>
> Any Mac app that can print can export to PDF.

True, but the ability to export to PDF from Office is available on both 
Mac and Windows version (2007 onwards).

-- 
Alan Ralph
Wearer Of Many Hats!

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#2333 — Re: Microsoft Word created for a paper document world that no longer exists

On 09/04/2014 22:00, Alan Ralph wrote:
> On 09/04/2014 22:45, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <li3u62$lar$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Ralph
>> <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Best thing about the Mac version of Office, other than the ability to
>>> export to PDF, as that it has an actual menu at the top of the screen,
>>> thus saving me from losing my mind trying to find particular features
>>> on the Ribbon.
>>
>> Any Mac app that can print can export to PDF.
>
> True, but the ability to export to PDF from Office is available on both
> Mac and Windows version (2007 onwards).
>
The ability of Word 2013 to read a PDF and then, at least on simpler 
documents, quite a good job of converting the text into a Word document 
has been very useful to me. Too often, even copying a single sentence 
from a PDF in Adobe Reader results in messed up text with broken 
words/lines, odd extra characters, etc.

-- 
Rod

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#2335

In article <bqlrmjFigisU1@mid.individual.net>, polygonum
<rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> wrote:

> On 09/04/2014 22:00, Alan Ralph wrote:
> > On 09/04/2014 22:45, Tim Streater wrote:
> >> In article <li3u62$lar$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Ralph
> >> <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Best thing about the Mac version of Office, other than the ability to
> >>> export to PDF, as that it has an actual menu at the top of the screen,
> >>> thus saving me from losing my mind trying to find particular features
> >>> on the Ribbon.
> >>
> >> Any Mac app that can print can export to PDF.
> >
> > True, but the ability to export to PDF from Office is available on both
> > Mac and Windows version (2007 onwards).
> >
> The ability of Word 2013 to read a PDF and then, at least on simpler 
> documents, quite a good job of converting the text into a Word document 
> has been very useful to me. Too often, even copying a single sentence 
> from a PDF in Adobe Reader results in messed up text with broken 
> words/lines, odd extra characters, etc.

Try Preview, then. You can copy/paste from a PDF even across columns
and just get the text.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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