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| Started by | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| First post | 2014-04-02 16:01 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-04-03 11:37 +0000 |
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Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-02 16:01 +0000
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@hushmail.com> - 2014-04-02 11:10 -0500
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-02 18:55 +0000
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@hushmail.com> - 2014-04-02 14:08 -0500
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2014-04-02 17:31 +0100
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-02 20:29 +0200
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2014-04-02 21:53 +0100
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage "John" <j@j.j> - 2014-04-02 15:09 -0700
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2014-04-03 12:56 -0700
Re: Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage Shelikhoo <xiaokangwang@outlook.com> - 2014-04-03 11:37 +0000
| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 16:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Canonical giving up on Ubuntu One cloud storage |
| Message-ID | <20140402160138.c9e5a3ed.rsw@therandymon.com> |
Was nice while it lasted. http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/ There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! -- RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@hushmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 11:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <HsydnTJks7Mbq6HOnZ2dnUVZ5qWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #2213 |
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:01:38 +0000, RS Wood wrote: > Was nice while it lasted. > http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file- services/ > > There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and > go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! Indeed. I run my own rsync script with my own server. Took matters into my own hands and away from DropBox 7 months ago. -- Marek Novotny A member of the Linux Foundation http://www.linuxfoundation.org git with the program
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| From | Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 18:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lhhmfu$ret$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2214 |
On 2014-04-02, Marek Novotny wrote: > On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:01:38 +0000, RS Wood wrote: > >> Was nice while it lasted. >> http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file- > services/ >> >> There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and >> go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! > > Indeed. I run my own rsync script with my own server. Took matters into > my own hands and away from DropBox 7 months ago. I use unison with my own servers, and highly recommend it. It uses the rsync algorithm, but saves you the trouble of writing the script yourself. When not in a cron job, you can run it in interactive mode and tell it exactly what to do with each change. Handy when you know there's going to be a conflict. I wrap unison in my own script so that I get an email if there's a conflict.
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@hushmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 14:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <HsydnSxks7OD_aHOnZ2dnUVZ5qWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #2219 |
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:55:58 +0000, Randy Westlund wrote: > I use unison with my own servers, and highly recommend it. It uses the > rsync algorithm, but saves you the trouble of writing the script > yourself. When not in a cron job, you can run it in interactive mode > and tell it exactly what to do with each change. Handy when you know > there's going to be a conflict. I wrap unison in my own script so that > I get an email if there's a conflict. Interesting. I'll have to take a look at it. Thanks for the tip. -- Marek Novotny A member of the Linux Foundation http://www.linuxfoundation.org git with the program
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| From | Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 17:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <7jqt0b-31g.ln1@squidward.local.dionic.net> |
| In reply to | #2213 |
On 02/04/14 17:01, RS Wood wrote: > Was nice while it lasted. > http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/ > > There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and > go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! > +1. The amount of coming and going of .com "cloud" services is astounding. If you aren't paying, beware and expect nothing...
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 20:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <fh1u0b-mg72.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #2215 |
On 2014-04-02, Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote: > On 02/04/14 17:01, RS Wood wrote: >> Was nice while it lasted. >> http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/ >> >> There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and >> go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! >> > > +1. The amount of coming and going of .com "cloud" services is > astounding. If you aren't paying, beware and expect nothing... It's rather like savings accounts, credit card offers and insurance. On those you get the sweet deals when you join but they aren't competitive for "Loyal" customers - you've go to be prepared to keep moving on. -- Paul Sture "In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."
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| From | Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 21:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mu9u0b-18l.ln1@squidward.local.dionic.net> |
| In reply to | #2221 |
On 02/04/14 19:29, Paul Sture wrote: > On 2014-04-02, Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote: >> On 02/04/14 17:01, RS Wood wrote: >>> Was nice while it lasted. >>> http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/ >>> >>> There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and >>> go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! >>> >> >> +1. The amount of coming and going of .com "cloud" services is >> astounding. If you aren't paying, beware and expect nothing... > > It's rather like savings accounts, credit card offers and insurance. On > those you get the sweet deals when you join but they aren't competitive > for "Loyal" customers - you've go to be prepared to keep moving on. > Yes. But the main difference is money has a universal common API and the external interfaces of the myriad accounts are all compatible. That's rather the opposite of most cloud services beyond basic file storage (eg Dropbox) and maybe calendaring systems (just, if you are lucky). eg if Facebook goes tits up how easy would it be to rescue your content?
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| From | "John" <j@j.j> |
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| Date | 2014-04-02 15:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lhi1pp$s4t$1@jefelex.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #2227 |
"Tim Watts" <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote in message news:mu9u0b-18l.ln1@squidward.local.dionic.net... > On 02/04/14 19:29, Paul Sture wrote: >> On 2014-04-02, Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote: >>> On 02/04/14 17:01, RS Wood wrote: >>>> Was nice while it lasted. >>>> http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/ >>>> >>>> There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and >>>> go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! >>>> >>> >>> +1. The amount of coming and going of .com "cloud" services is >>> astounding. If you aren't paying, beware and expect nothing... >> >> It's rather like savings accounts, credit card offers and insurance. On >> those you get the sweet deals when you join but they aren't competitive >> for "Loyal" customers - you've go to be prepared to keep moving on. >> > > Yes. But the main difference is money has a universal common API and the > external interfaces of the myriad accounts are all compatible. > > That's rather the opposite of most cloud services beyond basic file > storage (eg Dropbox) and maybe calendaring systems (just, if you are > lucky). > > eg if Facebook goes tits up how easy would it be to rescue your content? That's a snap - don't have anything of importance on there! I don't (and wouldn't anyway) store stuff on any cloud system that is not already backed up on my file servers, I put whatever info on them to share only. When Facebook disconnects (and I think it will eventually) all that info will be gone to the bit heap in the sky - I warn people constantly not to trust any data anywhere, back up your back ups!
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| From | David Harmon <source@netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2014-04-03 12:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <Uo-dnRsL2PBnIaDOnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #2221 |
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:29:35 +0200 in comp.misc, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote, >On 2014-04-02, Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote: >> On 02/04/14 17:01, RS Wood wrote: >>> Was nice while it lasted. >>> http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/ >>> >>> There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and >>> go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! >>> >> >> +1. The amount of coming and going of .com "cloud" services is >> astounding. If you aren't paying, beware and expect nothing... > >It's rather like savings accounts, credit card offers and insurance. On >those you get the sweet deals when you join but they aren't competitive >for "Loyal" customers - you've go to be prepared to keep moving on. Add domain registrars. I just got a godaddy renewal notice and the price is double what it was when I first signed up.
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| From | Shelikhoo <xiaokangwang@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2014-04-03 11:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lhjh62$9ho$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #2213 |
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:01:38 +0000, RS Wood wrote: > Was nice while it lasted. > http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file- services/ > > There's a moral here: don't rely on cloud storage. Providers come and > go. Dropboxers: you'll get your day too! Actually, as a linux user, it is obvious that I(or probable we) just trust in cipher. It is really hard to puts some important file on a cloud server without encryption. Backup? RAID can be used! For me, my most precious file is on Github, never worried of lost. For file sharing, not only self-hosted server can be used, but widely used solution is also available. So, why use it? Nothing lost at all.
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