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  Gopherpedia RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-12 15:22 +0000
    Re: Gopherpedia Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-12 15:37 +0000
    Re: Gopherpedia 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-03-12 12:22 -0400
      Re: Gopherpedia RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-12 17:42 +0000
        Re: Gopherpedia Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-12 19:06 +0000
          Re: Gopherpedia RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-12 19:25 +0000
            Re: Gopherpedia Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-12 20:00 +0000
          Re: Gopherpedia Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-12 21:21 +0000
            Re: Gopherpedia Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-12 21:43 +0000
          Re: Gopherpedia Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-17 10:38 -0500
        Re: Gopherpedia scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-03-12 19:36 +0000
          Re: Gopherpedia greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-12 20:55 +0000
            Re: Gopherpedia Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-17 10:44 -0500
        Re: Gopherpedia Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-12 21:32 +0000
          Re: Gopherpedia Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-13 00:35 +0000
          Re: Gopherpedia "Christopher M. Hobbs" <hobbsc@ma.sdf.org> - 2014-03-15 23:30 -0500
            Re: Gopherpedia "Christopher M. Hobbs" <hobbsc@ma.sdf.org> - 2014-03-15 23:37 -0500
            Re: Gopherpedia RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-16 16:13 +0000
            Re: Gopherpedia 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-03-16 23:17 -0400
        Re: Gopherpedia Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2014-03-16 20:46 +0000

#1520 — Gopherpedia

Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.

The developer, Colin Mitchell of MuffinLabs, announced the project last
yere, here:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4628

At 
http://muffinlabs.com/2013/06/14/gopherpedia---the-free-encyclopedia-via-gopher/
he writes:
"14 June 2013

My last release for Project Dump week is Gopherpedia -- a mirror of
Wikipedia in gopherspace. If you happen to have a gopher client, you
can see it at gopherpedia.com on port 70. Otherwise, you can browse to
gopherpedia.com and view it via a web proxy.

A couple of years ago, I landed on the idea of a gopher interface to
Wikipedia. Originally it was probably a joke, but it stuck with me. So
one day I registered a domain name and got to work. The first thing I
needed to do was build a gopher server, because none of the currently
available options were up to the task. So I built Gopher2000. Then, I
quickly realized that the current gopher proxies weren't any good
either, so I built GoPHPer. Once both of those were written (well over
a year ago), it didn't seem like there was much left to be done --
gopherpedia should've been ready to launch.

But I hadn't reckoned on the challenges of churning through a database
dump of Wikipedia..."

It's an interesting read and an interesting project.  I've used it a
couple times since then (the Lynx browser still speaks the gopher
protocol).  At a minimum, it provides for easy wikipedia searching from
the command line without need to pull up a GUI browser, if you're into
that sort of thing.

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#1521

On 2014-03-12, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.

Wow. The rave from the grave continues.

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#1527

On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.
>
> The developer, Colin Mitchell of MuffinLabs, announced the project last
> yere, here:
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4628
>
> At
> http://muffinlabs.com/2013/06/14/gopherpedia---the-free-encyclopedia-via-gopher/
> he writes:
> "14 June 2013
>
> My last release for Project Dump week is Gopherpedia -- a mirror of
> Wikipedia in gopherspace. If you happen to have a gopher client, you
> can see it at gopherpedia.com on port 70. Otherwise, you can browse to
> gopherpedia.com and view it via a web proxy.
>
> A couple of years ago, I landed on the idea of a gopher interface to
> Wikipedia. Originally it was probably a joke, but it stuck with me. So
> one day I registered a domain name and got to work. The first thing I
> needed to do was build a gopher server, because none of the currently
> available options were up to the task. So I built Gopher2000. Then, I
> quickly realized that the current gopher proxies weren't any good
> either, so I built GoPHPer. Once both of those were written (well over
> a year ago), it didn't seem like there was much left to be done --
> gopherpedia should've been ready to launch.
>
> But I hadn't reckoned on the challenges of churning through a database
> dump of Wikipedia..."
>
> It's an interesting read and an interesting project.  I've used it a
> couple times since then (the Lynx browser still speaks the gopher
> protocol).  At a minimum, it provides for easy wikipedia searching from
> the command line without need to pull up a GUI browser, if you're into
> that sort of thing.
>
Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it from 
gopher on port 70

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#1531

On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
> On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
>> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.

> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it from 
> gopher on port 70


I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
% lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com

Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't know
of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m browser
doesn't speak gopher anymore.

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#1533

On 2014-03-12, RS Wood wrote:
> On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
>> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it from 
>> gopher on port 70
>
> I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
> % lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
>
> Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't know
> of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m browser
> doesn't speak gopher anymore.

elinks does.  That's what I use, and it's working for me.

I had only heard of the gopher protocol before, but never played
around with it.  I think this is really useful.  With gopherfs, you
can actually mount a gopher server as a FUSE resource! How awesome
is that?

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#1534

On 2014-03-12, Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> elinks does.  That's what I use, and it's working for me.
>
> I had only heard of the gopher protocol before, but never played
> around with it.  I think this is really useful.  With gopherfs, you
> can actually mount a gopher server as a FUSE resource! How awesome is
> that?

How do you use gopherfs?  I don't really 'get' FUSE.

Just thought of an additional benefit: Google doesn't index gopher
sites, considering them dead.  Might be good for a little personal
repository of something.  Just thinking outloud, here.

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#1536

On 2014-03-12, RS Wood wrote:
> On 2014-03-12, Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> elinks does.  That's what I use, and it's working for me.
>>
>> I had only heard of the gopher protocol before, but never played
>> around with it.  I think this is really useful.  With gopherfs, you
>> can actually mount a gopher server as a FUSE resource! How awesome is
>> that?
>
> How do you use gopherfs?  I don't really 'get' FUSE.

I'm not sure.  There isn't a good website for it, and it isn't in
the gentoo package tree.  But I imagine it would work like sshfs
does.  I can say:
#v+
sshfs server.example.com:/home/randy/files /mnt/files
#v-

And it's mounted as if it were local.  It's really handy for
situations where you have (for example) a raspberry pi taped to your
stereo system running MPD, and the music files stored on your server
in the next room :)

http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html

Doing this with gopherpedia would be cool.  You could perhaps have
/mnt/gopherpedia mounted, and have your own scripts browse it and do
whatever you like.

> Just thought of an additional benefit: Google doesn't index gopher
> sites, considering them dead.  Might be good for a little personal
> repository of something.  Just thinking outloud, here.

Interesting, I didn't realize that.  From what I've seen so far,
gopher seems like it's worth keeping alive.

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#1540

In message <lfqb82$b4s$1@dont-email.me> 
  Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2014-03-12, RS Wood wrote:
>> On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
>>> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it from 
>>> gopher on port 70
>>
>> I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
>> % lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
>>
>> Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't know
>> of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m browser
>> doesn't speak gopher anymore.

> elinks does.  That's what I use, and it's working for me.

> I had only heard of the gopher protocol before, but never played
> around with it.  I think this is really useful.  With gopherfs, you
> can actually mount a gopher server as a FUSE resource! How awesome
> is that?

I've been waiting a minute for a response to a search. It says it is
fetching 1.4K and is getting 13Bps.


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#1542

On 2014-03-12, Lewis wrote:
> In message <lfqb82$b4s$1@dont-email.me> 
> I've been waiting a minute for a response to a search. It says it is
> fetching 1.4K and is getting 13Bps.

Same here.  An hour ago, I was getting all search results in under
three seconds.  Now it's taking a minute or two.

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#1729

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:06:42 +0000 (UTC), Randy Westlund belched forth:
> 
> I had only heard of the gopher protocol before, but never played
> around with it.  I think this is really useful.  With gopherfs, you
> can actually mount a gopher server as a FUSE resource! How awesome
> is that?

I only started using FUSE recently, to back up my SDF stuff to my Linux
box.  I didn't know it could do gopher, this is fantastic news!


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#1535

In article <bobkkgFoavdU1@mid.individual.net>,
RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
>% lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
>
>Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't know
>of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m browser
>doesn't speak gopher anymore.

OverbiteFF adds Gopher support to Firefox.

  _/_
 / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
(IIGS( http://alfter.us/            Top-posting!
 \_^_/                              >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

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#1537

On 2014-03-12, Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
> In article <bobkkgFoavdU1@mid.individual.net>,
> RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
>>% lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
>>
>>Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't know
>>of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m browser
>>doesn't speak gopher anymore.
>
> OverbiteFF adds Gopher support to Firefox.
>
>   _/_
>  / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
> (IIGS( http://alfter.us/            Top-posting!
>  \_^_/                              >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
>
>
>
When I was younger...
There were several attempts to ease searching over the Net (as  
distinct from web). Archie was there as well. Berners-Lee was a 
whole step forwards, with pictures and links. I remember gopher,
not very exiting (Minnesota, wasnt it).. Incredily devious advice
::))))))))))). Use port 81 for your ellet web page.



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...

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#1730

On 12 Mar 2014 20:55:07 GMT, greymausg belched forth:

> On 2014-03-12, Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
>> In article <bobkkgFoavdU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>>I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
>>>% lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
>>>
>>>Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't know
>>>of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m browser
>>>doesn't speak gopher anymore.
>>
>> OverbiteFF adds Gopher support to Firefox.
>>
>>   _/_
>>  / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
>> (IIGS( http://alfter.us/            Top-posting!
>>  \_^_/                              >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
>>
>>
>>
> When I was younger...
> There were several attempts to ease searching over the Net (as  
> distinct from web). Archie was there as well. Berners-Lee was a 
> whole step forwards, with pictures and links. I remember gopher,
> not very exiting (Minnesota, wasnt it).. Incredily devious advice
>::))))))))))). Use port 81 for your ellet web page.

I loved Archie, anyone remember WAIS?

I'd love to implement one or the other on my own internal (non-internet)
network.

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#1541

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:42:40 +0000, RS Wood wrote:

> On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
>> On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>>> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
>>> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.
> 
>> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it from
>> gopher on port 70
> 
> 
> I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
> % lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
> 
> Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't know
> of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m browser
> doesn't speak gopher anymore.

I used the text gopher client.



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#1543

On 2014-03-12, Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:42:40 +0000, RS Wood wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>>>> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
>>>> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.
>> 
>>> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it
>>> from gopher on port 70
>> 
>> 
>> I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?  % lynx
>> gopher://gopherpedia.com
>> 
>> Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't
>> know of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m
>> browser doesn't speak gopher anymore.
>
> I used the text gopher client.

I can't install that at present:

,---- [  ]
| Unable to load page
|
| Problem occurred while loading the URL http://gopher.quux.org:70/give-me-gopher/
|
| Cannot connect to destination (gopher.quux.org)
`----

Perhaps it's overloaded by people seeking Gopher clients?  I have used
Gopher in the past.

Lynx works pretty well, and integrates Gopher well with the web.
"ddwarf" is another possibility but I haven't tried it
<http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/software/ddwarf/>.

Shell accounts are still available, eg <http://shells.red-pill.eu/>, and
provide users with gopher space (and usenet access and other stuff).
<http://sdf.org/> is probably the oldest - older than the web  :))

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#1652

On 12 Mar 2014 21:32:48 GMT
Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:42:40 +0000, RS Wood wrote:
> 
> > On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
> >>> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
> >>> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.
> > 
> >> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it
> >> from gopher on port 70
> > 
> > 
> > I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
> > % lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
> > 
> > Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't
> > know of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m
> > browser doesn't speak gopher anymore.
> 
> I used the text gopher client.
> 
> 
> 

I initially had this issue as well because I typed 'gopher
gopherpedia.com'.  I believe the text gopher client speaks more
protocols than just gopher.  Adding "gopher://" to the front of the
domain works:  'gopher gopher://gopherpedia.com'

Phew, that's a lot of gopher...

cmh

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#1653

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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:30:24 -0500
"Christopher M. Hobbs" <hobbsc@ma.sdf.org> wrote:

> On 12 Mar 2014 21:32:48 GMT
> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:42:40 +0000, RS Wood wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
> > >> On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
> > >>> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
> > >>> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.
> > > 
> > >> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it
> > >> from gopher on port 70
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
> > > % lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
> > > 
> > > Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't
> > > know of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or
> > > w3m browser doesn't speak gopher anymore.
> > 
> > I used the text gopher client.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> I initially had this issue as well because I typed 'gopher
> gopherpedia.com'.  I believe the text gopher client speaks more
> protocols than just gopher.  Adding "gopher://" to the front of the
> domain works:  'gopher gopher://gopherpedia.com'
> 
> Phew, that's a lot of gopher...
> 
> cmh

Sorry for the crosspost, comp.misc!  It's been a while since I've
cruised the 'ol Usenet.
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#1683

On 2014-03-16, Christopher M. Hobbs <hobbsc@ma.sdf.org> wrote:
> On 12 Mar 2014 21:32:48 GMT
> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:42:40 +0000, RS Wood wrote:
>> 
>> > On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
>> >> On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>> >>> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
>> >>> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.
>> > 
>> >> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it
>> >> from gopher on port 70
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
>> > % lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com
>> > 
>> > Comes right up.  Faster than Wikipedia too, I might add.  I don't
>> > know of any other clients other than lynx.  Even the "links" or w3m
>> > browser doesn't speak gopher anymore.
>> 
>> I used the text gopher client.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
> I initially had this issue as well because I typed 'gopher
> gopherpedia.com'.  I believe the text gopher client speaks more
> protocols than just gopher.  Adding "gopher://" to the front of the
> domain works:  'gopher gopher://gopherpedia.com'
>
> Phew, that's a lot of gopher...
>
> cmh

I see from an earlier thread in comp.infosystems.gopher that
gopher://qix.me is online.  That would be another interesting site to
point yer gopher at.  Seems silly that the gopher client requires you to
specify the protocol, but maybe they had plans for expansion back in the
day ...

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#1700

On 3/16/2014 12:30 AM, Christopher M. Hobbs wrote:

>
> I initially had this issue as well because I typed 'gopher
> gopherpedia.com'.  I believe the text gopher client speaks more
> protocols than just gopher.  Adding "gopher://" to the front of the
> domain works:  'gopher gopher://gopherpedia.com'
>
> Phew, that's a lot of gopher...
>
> cmh
>

Yup that's what it was.. odd though, it works with some other gopher 
sites with just a hostname.

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#1691

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2014-03-12, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote:
>> On 3/12/2014 11:22 AM, RS Wood wrote:
>>> Introducing: gopherpedia: everything you expect from wikipedia,
>>> provided in plain text over the gopher protocol.
>
>> Doesn't seem to be providing any directory when trying access it from
>> gopher on port 70
>
>
> I just tried it and it works for me.  Firewall issue?
> % lynx gopher://gopherpedia.com

lynx works for me too. This is sweet. Thank you.

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